80's vs. late 90's
80's vs. late 90's
Hagler vs. Hopkins
Leonard vs. De La Hoya
Trinidad vs. Hearns
Mosley vs. Duran
Leonard vs. De La Hoya
Trinidad vs. Hearns
Mosley vs. Duran
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I agree totally with every one of your picksbennie wrote:Hagler beats another Philly fighter (points).
Leonard, the original Golden Boy, destroys the pretender (I'd pay to watch Oscar get his face rearranged).
Duran-Mosley...please! It's an insult to even mention Mosley with Duran.
Hearns much too powerful for chinny Felix.
A massive gulf in class with every fight except MMH - BHop. Hagler on points anyway.
Re: 80's vs. late 90's
Hagler points.Grimm wrote:Hagler vs. Hopkins
Leonard points. (Welterweight)Grimm wrote:Leonard vs. De La Hoya
Hearns TKO5 (Welterweight)Grimm wrote:Trinidad vs. Hearns
Duran points or late TKO (Welterweight)Grimm wrote:Mosley vs. Duran
I'm older than all of you...you'd think I'd be more sentimental....or maybe i'm just getting senile but here's my thoughts.
Hagler vs. Hopkins I don't see a way for Hopkins to win this but he would likely see the last round.
Leonard vs. De La Hoya Competitive edge to Leonard but not a slam dunk. De La Hoya could surprise in any one fight. Still I'd go 2 out of 3 to Sugar Ray. NO KO's here.
Trinidad vs. Hearns The most competitive of the bunch...could go either way depending on who hits paydirt first. Tommy's chin could give way to Tito so that's the wild card. Trinidad likes to get up from off the deck and go back to work. Still when the money's down I favor Tommy. No Decisions here either way it goes it would be by KO.
Mosley vs. Duran Duran in a certain KO.
Hagler vs. Hopkins I don't see a way for Hopkins to win this but he would likely see the last round.
Leonard vs. De La Hoya Competitive edge to Leonard but not a slam dunk. De La Hoya could surprise in any one fight. Still I'd go 2 out of 3 to Sugar Ray. NO KO's here.
Trinidad vs. Hearns The most competitive of the bunch...could go either way depending on who hits paydirt first. Tommy's chin could give way to Tito so that's the wild card. Trinidad likes to get up from off the deck and go back to work. Still when the money's down I favor Tommy. No Decisions here either way it goes it would be by KO.
Mosley vs. Duran Duran in a certain KO.
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Wow. Couldn't agree with you more. 100% the way I see it. Good job.BoxBuzz wrote:I'm older than all of you...you'd think I'd be more sentimental....or maybe i'm just getting senile but here's my thoughts.
Hagler vs. Hopkins I don't see a way for Hopkins to win this but he would likely see the last round.
Leonard vs. De La Hoya Competitive edge to Leonard but not a slam dunk. De La Hoya could surprise in any one fight. Still I'd go 2 out of 3 to Sugar Ray. NO KO's here.
Trinidad vs. Hearns The most competitive of the bunch...could go either way depending on who hits paydirt first. Tommy's chin could give way to Tito so that's the wild card. Trinidad likes to get up from off the deck and go back to work. Still when the money's down I favor Tommy. No Decisions here either way it goes it would be by KO.
Mosley vs. Duran Duran in a certain KO.
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Re: 80's vs. late 90's
IN my opinion i see an 80s wipe outGrimm wrote:Hagler vs. Hopkins
Leonard vs. De La Hoya
Trinidad vs. Hearns
Mosley vs. Duran
Hagler UD over Hopkins
leonard UD over ODLH
Hearns tko11 over Trinidad
Duran TKO10 over mosley
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well alot of the matchups people make are between past legends and top p4p of the present. eg i saw a topic made of duran vs PBF, Duran a fully established legend to the game wereas you have PBF whos a top p4p.. i dont know if your getting me but what im saying is weve seen the highs and lows of those legends and the opponents fit for their game
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Very true, in 20 years, Mayweather will beat everyone hypotheticallyJAHamilton77 wrote:Just an observation (not saying right or wrong on picks), but have you ever noticed that when people make mythical matchups between stars of the past & stars of the present, the stars of the past are usually assumed to be the winners?
Are you kidding? Modern fighters always come out on top. The amount of times I've read that Butterbean would have beaten Louis, Marciano wouldn't have lived with Bowe, blah, blah, blah.JAHamilton77 wrote:Just an observation (not saying right or wrong on picks), but have you ever noticed that when people make mythical matchups between stars of the past & stars of the present, the stars of the past are usually assumed to be the winners?
It's sickening.
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Are you talking about people saying Butterbean would have beaten Louis or Marciano in the Boxers of the past forum? Because I have never seen that. I can't even recall very many people thinking top fighters of the last thirty years would have beaten Joe Louis. I really don't know if you are serious, I tend to think you are intentionally giving an absured example to prove a point that you think the old time fighters are being short changed.bennie wrote:Are you kidding? Modern fighters always come out on top. The amount of times I've read that Butterbean would have beaten Louis, Marciano wouldn't have lived with Bowe, blah, blah, blah.JAHamilton77 wrote:Just an observation (not saying right or wrong on picks), but have you ever noticed that when people make mythical matchups between stars of the past & stars of the present, the stars of the past are usually assumed to be the winners?
It's sickening.
I think there is a great deal of sentiment in this forum for fighters of earlier eras. Just pull up some of the older threads where people rank fighters in their all time top fifty list or top ten or twenty five and you will see evidence of this. However since the title of this forum is Boxers of the past that is somewhat understandable.
I know this forum ran a thread about Butterbean vs John L. Sullivan, which was disappointing. But I have rarely come across a forum where the old-time fighters - those not in the forefront of the memory - get their due credit. You say otherwise. Great.kick asner wrote:Are you talking about people saying Butterbean would have beaten Louis or Marciano in the Boxers of the past forum? Because I have never seen that. I can't even recall very many people thinking top fighters of the last thirty years would have beaten Joe Louis. I really don't know if you are serious, I tend to think you are intentionally giving an absured example to prove a point that you think the old time fighters are being short changed.bennie wrote:Are you kidding? Modern fighters always come out on top. The amount of times I've read that Butterbean would have beaten Louis, Marciano wouldn't have lived with Bowe, blah, blah, blah.JAHamilton77 wrote:Just an observation (not saying right or wrong on picks), but have you ever noticed that when people make mythical matchups between stars of the past & stars of the present, the stars of the past are usually assumed to be the winners?
It's sickening.
I think there is a great deal of sentiment in this forum for fighters of earlier eras. Just pull up some of the older threads where people rank fighters in their all time top fifty list or top ten or twenty five and you will see evidence of this. However since the title of this forum is Boxers of the past that is somewhat understandable.
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"I have rarely come across a forum where old time fighters-those not in the forefront of memory-get their due credit"
I'm sure their are some ommisions of old time fighters not being mentioned anymore probably due to the passage of time, just like their have been forgotten Civil War battles that played a prominent role in shaping history. As a whole however if you have not found threads in this forum that pay homage to the earlier eras then take a little time to do a review because you might be surprised. Just not to long ago their was an excellent thread on great black heavyweights of the past. As far as ranking the older fighters with more modern ones Ray Robinson is a consensus number one ranked fighter as a welterweight, the same could be said about Ezzard Charles as Light heavyweight and those are just a couple of examples.
If it was the Butter Bean thread I am thinking of the person making the comparison was ridiculed, as was anyone else who has brought his name up in a serious context. Sometimes you have to question if the person was even serious or someone who thought it might be funny to sit back and see how people would respond. I myself don't take those kinds of threads seriuously.
I'm sure their are some ommisions of old time fighters not being mentioned anymore probably due to the passage of time, just like their have been forgotten Civil War battles that played a prominent role in shaping history. As a whole however if you have not found threads in this forum that pay homage to the earlier eras then take a little time to do a review because you might be surprised. Just not to long ago their was an excellent thread on great black heavyweights of the past. As far as ranking the older fighters with more modern ones Ray Robinson is a consensus number one ranked fighter as a welterweight, the same could be said about Ezzard Charles as Light heavyweight and those are just a couple of examples.
If it was the Butter Bean thread I am thinking of the person making the comparison was ridiculed, as was anyone else who has brought his name up in a serious context. Sometimes you have to question if the person was even serious or someone who thought it might be funny to sit back and see how people would respond. I myself don't take those kinds of threads seriuously.
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I also agree with this.borinken25 wrote:Wow. Couldn't agree with you more. 100% the way I see it. Good job.BoxBuzz wrote:I'm older than all of you...you'd think I'd be more sentimental....or maybe i'm just getting senile but here's my thoughts.
Hagler vs. Hopkins I don't see a way for Hopkins to win this but he would likely see the last round.
Leonard vs. De La Hoya Competitive edge to Leonard but not a slam dunk. De La Hoya could surprise in any one fight. Still I'd go 2 out of 3 to Sugar Ray. NO KO's here.
Trinidad vs. Hearns The most competitive of the bunch...could go either way depending on who hits paydirt first. Tommy's chin could give way to Tito so that's the wild card. Trinidad likes to get up from off the deck and go back to work. Still when the money's down I favor Tommy. No Decisions here either way it goes it would be by KO.
Mosley vs. Duran Duran in a certain KO.