Do you think if Canelo is off of that juicy mexican meat he will be affected/ less powerful ?

[apollo creed]

In the first fight Canelo didn't seem at all bothered by GGG's punches.

[apollo creed]

clen-tacos free.

[DrDuke]

In the first fight Canelo didn't seem at all bothered by GGG's punches.

His ability to take shots won't change. It's even irrelevant in this case. Clenbuterol actually isn't that powerful. It's used for cutting weight. Canelo is already looking less bulked according to recent footage. So he probably won't have weight-cut problems prior to the fight, that could have affected his conditions.

[apollo creed]

In the first fight Canelo didn't seem at all bothered by GGG's punches.

His ability to take shots won't change. It's even irrelevant in this case. Clenbuterol actually isn't that powerful. It's used for cutting weight. Canelo is already looking less bulked according to recent footage. So he probably won't have weight-cut problems prior to the fight, that could have affected his conditions.

Well let's see:

What does clenbuterol do?
Clenbuterol pills in blister pack.
Clenbuterol was originally intended to treat asthma, but has gained controversial popularity for aiding weight loss and bodybuilding.

Clenbuterol stimulates both the heart and central nervous system. It has a similar effect on the body as epinephrine and amphetamines.

It is also a beta-2-agonist, which is the opposite of a beta-blocker. While a beta-blocker will reduce the production of epinephrine and noradrenaline, clenbuterol increases it.

This increase will lead to a variety of effects, such as:

rapid fat burning
excitability
nervousness
increased energy
greater determination

I'm not an expert but if this substance could be used as a masking agent or to increase the performance of other PEDS in the body ?

[DrDuke]

I'm not an expert but if this substance could be used as a masking agent or to increase the performance of other PEDS in the body ?

I'm also not an expert in pharmacology, but seemingly clenbuterol isn't for that.

[caldo2025]

rapid fat burning
excitability
nervousness
increased energy
greater determination


These are huge factors to a successful training camp. Mostly because of increased energy. If your artificially increasing energy then that’s a huge benefit over a fighter that is naturally having to harness that same energy during camp. These guys kill themselves in camp. Most hate it for a reason.

[SenorPipino]

Why would he be affected?

Where's any shred of evidence that Canelo was using or had ingested clenbuterol prior to the first fight?

I don't recall any findings released that indicated he failed the post fight drug test.

Talk about a non-issue.

[Ruthless-RKO]

I seen a recent training session.. he looks really small.

[apollo creed]

rapid fat burning
excitability
nervousness
increased energy
greater determination


These are huge factors to a successful training camp. Mostly because of increased energy. If your artificially increasing energy then that’s a huge benefit over a fighter that is naturally having to harness that same energy during camp. These guys kill themselves in camp. Most hate it for a reason.

[apollo creed]

Why would he be affected?

Where's any shred of evidence that Canelo was using or had ingested clenbuterol prior to the first fight?

I don't recall any findings released that indicated he failed the post fight drug test.

Talk about a non-issue.

No. He just ate those super tacos and that juicy carne asada.

[apollo creed]

I seen a recent training session.. he looks really small.

Now he eats vegan tacos.

[SFW]

I think Canelo had been suspect for a long time, and not surprisingly he finally got caught. That doesn't necessarily convict his whole career but it's extraordinarily stupid to think his failed tests were magically the first time he ever did anything. Just some sad fantasy his supporters cling to. It's really funny how that camp of douche bags with every advantage possible handed to them were stupid enough to get caught. It's common knowledge only the stupid ones get caught, and stupid follows stupid. Hence Canelhoes.

Yes it will affect Canelo, it already has mentally. He's had to hear about his bitch move cheating since the day it was revealed. Physically their could be a few affects but the notable one might be punch resistance. He won't be taking the shots as well as he did that first "clean" lol fight. Good God if you think passing a couple weak planned tests is concrete proof a mega star is clean that's beyond embarrassing. You'd have to ignore everything said on the subject for years. . . . F a n t a s y.

I do hope Golovkin has enough left in him to get a knockdown or two. Of course, at least one judge will score that round even because Canelo landed face first so he was obviously winning right.. the best case scenario for boxing is Canelo sparked out cold with a lil Ingemar leg to boot. I'd pay extra for that.

[apollo creed]

I think Canelo had been suspect for a long time, and not surprisingly he finally got caught. That doesn't necessarily convict his whole career but it's extraordinarily stupid to think his failed tests were magically the first time he ever did anything. Just some sad fantasy his supporters cling to. It's really funny how that camp of douche bags with every advantage possible handed to them were stupid enough to get caught. It's common knowledge only the stupid ones get caught, and stupid follows stupid. Hence Canelhoes.

Yes it will affect Canelo, it already has mentally. He's had to hear about his bitch move cheating since the day it was revealed. Physically their could be a few affects but the notable one might be punch resistance. He won't be taking the shots as well as he did that first "clean" lol fight. Good God if you think passing a couple weak planned tests is concrete proof a mega star is clean that's beyond embarrassing. You'd have to ignore everything said on the subject for years. . . . F a n t a s y.

I do hope Golovkin has enough left in him to get a knockdown or two. Of course, at least one judge will score that round even because Canelo landed face first so he was obviously winning right.. the best case scenario for boxing is Canelo sparked out cold with a lil Ingemar leg to boot. I'd pay extra for that.

Thank you for the answer!

[zockerbit]

They have more meat in Mexico, or vegetables, chili, candy's, tequila or something.....

Big money, many titles, prestige and revenge makes a salad of corruption. This fight smells lots of rat.

GGG is a pressure boxer running out of gas, that's a bit like an enchilida without chili, as Canelo perhaps would express it.
I hope GGG but I think Canelo. I think very much that GGG has lost even before entering the ring.

[apollo creed]

They have more meat in Mexico, or vegetables, chili, candy's, tequila or something.....

Big money, many titles, prestige and revenge makes a salad of corruption. This fight smells lots of rat.

GGG is a pressure boxer running out of gas, that's a bit like an enchilida without chili, as Canelo perhaps would express it.
I hope GGG but I think Canelo. I think very much that GGG has lost even before entering the ring.

I'm rooting for GGG too mostly because I think GGG represents the clean and the truthful side of the game. But the Father Time beats all of us.

[SenorPipino]

They have more meat in Mexico, or vegetables, chili, candy's, tequila or something.....

Big money, many titles, prestige and revenge makes a salad of corruption. This fight smells lots of rat.

GGG is a pressure boxer running out of gas, that's a bit like an enchilida without chili, as Canelo perhaps would express it.
I hope GGG but I think Canelo. I think very much that GGG has lost even before entering the ring.

I'm rooting for GGG too mostly because I think GGG represents the clean and the truthful side of the game. But the Father Time beats all of us.

You mean Golovkin, the noble warrior who insisted he fights for titles and the sport's honor?

But then did a public about face and whined and cried like a petulant middle schooler, and wouldn't sign until Oscar had to dip into his own pockets to cover Golovkin's newfound greed.

Clean? Maybe.

Truthful? More like a choir boy-faced BS artist.

[apollo creed]

They have more meat in Mexico, or vegetables, chili, candy's, tequila or something.....

Big money, many titles, prestige and revenge makes a salad of corruption. This fight smells lots of rat.

GGG is a pressure boxer running out of gas, that's a bit like an enchilida without chili, as Canelo perhaps would express it.
I hope GGG but I think Canelo. I think very much that GGG has lost even before entering the ring.

I'm rooting for GGG too mostly because I think GGG represents the clean and the truthful side of the game. But the Father Time beats all of us.

You mean Golovkin, the noble warrior who insisted he fights for titles and the sport's honor?

But then did a public about face and whined and cried like a petulant middle schooler, and wouldn't sign until Oscar had to dip into his own pockets to cover Golovkin's newfound greed.

Clean? Maybe.

Truthful? More like a choir boy-faced BS artist.

Golovkin was disrespected! He's an elite world class boxer. He ain't that supid to fight for peanuts especially after what Canelo and his master did.

[SenorPipino]

I'm rooting for GGG too mostly because I think GGG represents the clean and the truthful side of the game. But the Father Time beats all of us.

You mean Golovkin, the noble warrior who insisted he fights for titles and the sport's honor?

But then did a public about face and whined and cried like a petulant middle schooler, and wouldn't sign until Oscar had to dip into his own pockets to cover Golovkin's newfound greed.

Clean? Maybe.

Truthful? More like a choir boy-faced BS artist.

Golovkin was disrespected! He's an elite world class boxer. He ain't that supid to fight for peanuts especially after what Canelo and his master did.

I'd respect Golovkin more if he admitted that he's money-grubbing like every other athlete on our planet, and that honor and titles aren't really his priorities.

In what way has Golovkin really suffered so much that he deserves additional compensation?

The Canelo fight was postponed from May to September. Four months, so what? It's still occurring. Same difference.

Golovkin fought Martiroysan on Cinco de Mayo, so guess what? That means Golovkin will have the same 2-fight schedule that he originally planned for 2018 anyway. So where are the damages?

Golovkin was stripped of his IBF championship? Whose fault is that? He could have retained it by fighting a willing Derevyanchenko. He was ready, eager and able.

But Golovkin mysteriously said 'nyet' and paid the consequences. Why should Canelo feel any guilt for that? It's not his responsibility to micromanage Golovkin's career choices.

So really Greedy G should be kissing the Mexican soil that Canelo trains on for acquiescing and allowing Oscar to undeservedly raise Golovkin's salary.

It kind of gives lie to those who always insist that GBP and Canelo are waiting for Golovkin to grow older. They could have justifiably walked away from the September fight when noble Golovkin suddenly demanded mas dinero. Instead they could have revisited it for next May when ancient Golovkin was 8 months older.

But GBP and Canelo instead generously opened the vault for Golovkin and said "We want you now."

Apparently they're licking their chops at the anticipation of getting Golovkin back in the ring.

Wonder why.

[lazboy]

I seen a recent training session.. he looks really small.

Really? I haven’t seen a significant change.

[SFW]

GGG laughed at Fishnets demands, laughed. And got those hoes to bend over and fork over a good amount extra. They are the cheating side, the diva side, already looked stupid & got suspended for a year half his own country openly supports Golovkin lol it's hilarious. There's nothing wrong with getting what you feel is right, especially being a clean undefeated champion, obviously since they coughed it up quick. It's far less offensive than Canelo doping his way to millions against glorified club fighters and welterweights, let's not forget the skeleton of Mr. Pink Chonies himself Julito Chavez. Every advantage possible, plus dope, that shit is offensive. We're supposed to think old Golovkin getting a big pay day at the end of his career and taxing those idiots for their scumbag moves, is anything comparative to the millions GBP made off their prize slugger and his sketchy ways? You wanna talk about greed shit, those fellas have greed running through their veins don't know any other way. So it's great they got bitch slapped at the table, they deserved it no doubt. We'll see how much Canelo really wants it in the ring, his empty words and emotional promises were 100% bullshit last time and I'm sure he's got his track shoes on ready to prove the same again. I'm sure they'll blame the bad knee or something, they can't even handle a taco properly so a smart excuse may be a bit much to ask.

[Ruthless-RKO]

I seen a recent training session.. he looks really small.

Really? I haven’t seen a significant change.

[lazboy]

I seen a recent training session.. he looks really small.

Really? I haven’t seen a significant change.

I don’t know if there’s something wrong with my eyes or brain or both...he still looks solid and strong. Can’t see a huge difference.

[Enlightened-One]

People shouldn’t use the comparison of photos of Canelo’s physique throughout the years as a barometer to determine his alleged guilt of consuming PED’s, because that’s incredibly unreliable criteria.

The Mexican turned pro when he’d only just turned fifteen years of age and by the time he steps foot inside the ring to face GGG, he would have been competing as a professional for pretty much thirteen years.

Based on my own review of the training footage, there is no discernible difference between Canelo’s physique from the first bout against Golovkin to those recently published for the rematch.

For the record, I’m not trying to defend Canelo’s honour, but I am trying to objective and honest, because some of the claims I’ve read in this thread have been ridiculous… or at least embellished o the point that they bear almost no relation to reality!

[Ruthless-RKO]

People shouldn’t use the comparison of photos of Canelo’s physique throughout the years as a barometer to determine his alleged guilt of consuming PED’s, because that’s incredibly unreliable criteria.

Based on my own review of the training footage, there is no discernible difference between Canelo’s physique from the first bout against Golovkin to those recently published for the rematch.

I for one am not reviewing previous videos or pics and comparing. Just watching that video, he looks rather small. His face too, maybe it's the camera , or because of his hair. I don't know. It doesn't bother me to be honest. But that's just me looking at the video,

[Enlightened-One]

People shouldn’t use the comparison of photos of Canelo’s physique throughout the years as a barometer to determine his alleged guilt of consuming PED’s, because that’s incredibly unreliable criteria.

Based on my own review of the training footage, there is no discernible difference between Canelo’s physique from the first bout against Golovkin to those recently published for the rematch.

I for one am not reviewing previous videos or pics and comparing. Just watching that video, he looks rather small. His face too, maybe it's the camera , or because of his hair. I don't know. It doesn't bother me to be honest. But that's just me looking at the video,

I wasn’t really complaining about your post, but I’ve interpreted some of the comments in this thread (and several others) alleging that Canelo’s physique has undergone a drastic change to the point that he’s gone from being as bulky as Mike Tyson to becoming as frail as Guillermo Rigondeaux. People like to exaggerate.

I have compared Canelo’s current physique against training footage for his previous fight against Golovkin and there doesn’t appear to be any discernible difference.

I am happy for other people to disagree with me, since no one can be proven “right” about their opinion without having access to reliable measurements of Canelo’s dimensions for both of his GGG training camps.