Round-by-Round: Carl Frampton vs. Luke Jackson / Tyson Fury - 18 August 2018

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Re: Round-by-Round: Carl Frampton vs. Luke Jackson / Tyson Fury - 18 August 2018

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gilgamesh wrote: 18 Aug 2018, 18:27
Ruthless-RKO wrote: 18 Aug 2018, 18:24 I had a big feeling that Carl would get the stoppage. He was at his best today. Does get hot clean a bit and yeh he did fight an untested opponent. He couldn’t have done that against Donaire.

Frampton vs. Warrington is always gonna go the distance. Unless 1 of them really messes up. Should be a good tactical fight.

Frampton can certainly work his way to a stoppage.

After he fought Garcia, I thought we’d have seen a peak Frampton. It wasn’t a good performance. But since seeing his last 2 and these so-called ‘tests’.. I would say he’s still peaking.
I think Frampton vs Warrington will go well for Frampton. Frampton is a solid boxer, and I rarely see anybody able to outbox him in the early going. I don't think Warrington will be able to do it either, and he certainly won't be able to stop Frampton.
Yeh, Warrington doesn’t usually fight at a fast pace.

Frampton-LSC was fought at a much faster pace than Warrington-Selby.

We’ll have to see who dictates the pace. That will be key. Warrington could force Frampton to fight his fight.
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Re: Round-by-Round: Carl Frampton vs. Luke Jackson / Tyson Fury - 18 August 2018

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Boxerbeetle wrote: 18 Aug 2018, 18:21
Naandrew wrote: 18 Aug 2018, 17:59 Just got in in.

It seems the Fury fight was farcical so I won't watch it. I don't care about him getting rounds. Pianeta was knocked out by Kevin Johnson last year FFs.

To put into perspective Daniel Dubois next opponent knocked out Furys opponent. And Fury is preparing to fight Wilder !

BT are a joke too. Crap fights tonight two PPVs announced Frampton v Warrington would be a third PPV and they have lost UFC after December 1st.

I hope Fury v Wilder happens and I'm not arsed who wins but I'll have my doubts about it until it's close to the fight.
Typical isn’t it, almost as though TV companies these days only get involved in the sport because they know they can rinse predictably stupid boxing fans to buy crap PPVs

Can't put it clearer. I wouldn't be against PPVs for fights that need it but combining it with losing UFC plus Serie a which I watch every now and then takes the piss.
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Re: Round-by-Round: Carl Frampton vs. Luke Jackson / Tyson Fury - 18 August 2018

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jamamb wrote: 18 Aug 2018, 18:30
Ruthless-RKO wrote: 18 Aug 2018, 18:24 I had a big feeling that Carl would get the stoppage. He was at his best today. Does get hot clean a bit and yeh he did fight an untested opponent. He couldn’t have done that against Donaire.

Frampton vs. Warrington is always gonna go the distance. Unless 1 of them really messes up. Should be a good tactical fight.

Frampton can certainly work his way to a stoppage.

After he fought Garcia, I thought we’d have seen a peak Frampton. It wasn’t a good performance. But since seeing his last 2 and these so-called ‘tests’.. I would say he’s still peaking.
lol jackson a test? like a remedial test maybe?
No. The ‘tests’ i’m referring to are physical ones they keep mentioning about how he is in peak condition.
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Re: Round-by-Round: Carl Frampton vs. Luke Jackson / Tyson Fury - 18 August 2018

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gilgamesh wrote: 18 Aug 2018, 18:28
Covfefe wrote: 18 Aug 2018, 18:27
gilgamesh wrote: 18 Aug 2018, 18:26

No. It's just an observation. I can see things in human nature even if I don't feel them myself.

I'm a White Guy. When I watch Fury vs Wilder I will be 100% rooting for Wilder to knock Fury the f*ck out. Race is not a factor in selling the fight TO ME, but it is a factor in selling the fight to others.

I saw this when I saw people around me and their reactions to May vs Mac as an event. I wouldn't have thought this kinda thing was the case until I saw it myself.
You’re not understanding this at all. Pointless.
Why don't you explain it a little better then. What am I not understanding? Hell PM me if you like. I got time to discuss it.
I don’t really know how I could have explained it any simpler. The fights are not promoted that way, your friends who decided may-Mac was that added their own bigotry to it, you didn’t look at it that way and I didn’t, why did they?
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Re: Round-by-Round: Carl Frampton vs. Luke Jackson / Tyson Fury - 18 August 2018

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Covfefe wrote: 18 Aug 2018, 18:32
gilgamesh wrote: 18 Aug 2018, 18:28
Covfefe wrote: 18 Aug 2018, 18:27

You’re not understanding this at all. Pointless.
Why don't you explain it a little better then. What am I not understanding? Hell PM me if you like. I got time to discuss it.
I don’t really know how I could have explained it any simpler. The fights are not promoted that way, your friends who decided may-Mac was that added their own bigotry to it, you didn’t look at it that way and I didn’t, why did they?
Oh well yeah that's simple. Because they're dumbasses :lol:

Lots of people are dumbasses though...like more than half of them :lol:
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Re: Round-by-Round: Carl Frampton vs. Luke Jackson / Tyson Fury - 18 August 2018

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gilgamesh wrote: 18 Aug 2018, 18:33
Covfefe wrote: 18 Aug 2018, 18:32
gilgamesh wrote: 18 Aug 2018, 18:28

Why don't you explain it a little better then. What am I not understanding? Hell PM me if you like. I got time to discuss it.
I don’t really know how I could have explained it any simpler. The fights are not promoted that way, your friends who decided may-Mac was that added their own bigotry to it, you didn’t look at it that way and I didn’t, why did they?
Oh well yeah that's simple. Because they're dumbasses :lol:

Lots of people are dumbasses though...like more than half of them :lol:
That’s what I just said a minute ago. :lol:
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Re: Round-by-Round: Carl Frampton vs. Luke Jackson / Tyson Fury - 18 August 2018

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Covfefe wrote: 18 Aug 2018, 18:29
keithmoonhangover wrote: 18 Aug 2018, 18:28
Covfefe wrote: 18 Aug 2018, 18:18

You don’t even seem to know what we’re talking about.
No, you don't. Who were the gypsies rooting for tonight? Answer and explain why.
What does that have to do with my point though? I don’t understand why you’ve even involved yourself when you’re talking about something that has literally nothing to do with what I said. Ffs, Kieth.
Errr.... because this is a boxing forum and we are discussing boxing? Why not just answer? The gypsies will have been cheering their boy. Some black people will always root for the black boxer over the white boxer. Sean Monaghan has a large Irish-American following, For some people it's always about race, for others it's not. It's just life. If you don't think it is, you're either naive or stupid.
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Re: Round-by-Round: Carl Frampton vs. Luke Jackson / Tyson Fury - 18 August 2018

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Covfefe wrote: 18 Aug 2018, 18:35
gilgamesh wrote: 18 Aug 2018, 18:33
Covfefe wrote: 18 Aug 2018, 18:32

I don’t really know how I could have explained it any simpler. The fights are not promoted that way, your friends who decided may-Mac was that added their own bigotry to it, you didn’t look at it that way and I didn’t, why did they?
Oh well yeah that's simple. Because they're dumbasses :lol:

Lots of people are dumbasses though...like more than half of them :lol:
That’s what I just said a minute ago. :lol:
You need to learn to express yourself more clearly then
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Re: Round-by-Round: Carl Frampton vs. Luke Jackson / Tyson Fury - 18 August 2018

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gilgamesh wrote: 18 Aug 2018, 18:36
Covfefe wrote: 18 Aug 2018, 18:35
gilgamesh wrote: 18 Aug 2018, 18:33

Oh well yeah that's simple. Because they're dumbasses :lol:

Lots of people are dumbasses though...like more than half of them :lol:
That’s what I just said a minute ago. :lol:
You need to learn to express yourself more clearly then
I said it as clear as day in my first fornicating post. :brick:
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Re: Round-by-Round: Carl Frampton vs. Luke Jackson / Tyson Fury - 18 August 2018

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Covfefe wrote: 18 Aug 2018, 18:32
gilgamesh wrote: 18 Aug 2018, 18:28
Covfefe wrote: 18 Aug 2018, 18:27

You’re not understanding this at all. Pointless.
Why don't you explain it a little better then. What am I not understanding? Hell PM me if you like. I got time to discuss it.
I don’t really know how I could have explained it any simpler. The fights are not promoted that way, your friends who decided may-Mac was that added their own bigotry to it, you didn’t look at it that way and I didn’t, why did they?
Holmes-Cooney was promoted by exploiting the races of the two fighters. Plenty of boxers down the years have played the race card when promoting a fight. Ray Mercer-Tommy Morrison is another example. You're wrong sir.
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Re: Round-by-Round: Carl Frampton vs. Luke Jackson / Tyson Fury - 18 August 2018

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Covfefe wrote: 18 Aug 2018, 18:37
gilgamesh wrote: 18 Aug 2018, 18:36
Covfefe wrote: 18 Aug 2018, 18:35

That’s what I just said a minute ago. :lol:
You need to learn to express yourself more clearly then
I said it as clear as day in my first effing post. :brick:
Clearly you didn't.
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Re: Round-by-Round: Carl Frampton vs. Luke Jackson / Tyson Fury - 18 August 2018

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keithmoonhangover wrote: 18 Aug 2018, 18:36
Covfefe wrote: 18 Aug 2018, 18:29
keithmoonhangover wrote: 18 Aug 2018, 18:28

No, you don't. Who were the gypsies rooting for tonight? Answer and explain why.
What does that have to do with my point though? I don’t understand why you’ve even involved yourself when you’re talking about something that has literally nothing to do with what I said. Ffs, Kieth.
Errr.... because this is a boxing forum and we are discussing boxing? Why not just answer? The gypsies will have been cheering their boy. Some black people will always root for the black boxer over the white boxer. Sean Monaghan has a large Irish-American following, For some people it's always about race, for others it's not. It's just life. If you don't think it is, you're either naive or stupid.
Except that’s not what I said. You’re fornicating agreeing me. :brick:

All I said was the fights aren’t promoted by promoters any more that way, that’s stuff we bring to the fights.
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Re: Round-by-Round: Carl Frampton vs. Luke Jackson / Tyson Fury - 18 August 2018

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keithmoonhangover wrote: 18 Aug 2018, 18:38
Covfefe wrote: 18 Aug 2018, 18:32
gilgamesh wrote: 18 Aug 2018, 18:28

Why don't you explain it a little better then. What am I not understanding? Hell PM me if you like. I got time to discuss it.
I don’t really know how I could have explained it any simpler. The fights are not promoted that way, your friends who decided may-Mac was that added their own bigotry to it, you didn’t look at it that way and I didn’t, why did they?
Holmes-Cooney was promoted by exploiting the races of the two fighters. Plenty of boxers down the years have played the race card when promoting a fight. Ray Mercer-Tommy Morrison is another example. You're wrong sir.
Thanks for the relevant point. :lol:

A thirty six year old fight proves promoters today promote on race. :lol:
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Re: Round-by-Round: Carl Frampton vs. Luke Jackson / Tyson Fury - 18 August 2018

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Covfefe wrote: 18 Aug 2018, 18:40
keithmoonhangover wrote: 18 Aug 2018, 18:36
Covfefe wrote: 18 Aug 2018, 18:29

What does that have to do with my point though? I don’t understand why you’ve even involved yourself when you’re talking about something that has literally nothing to do with what I said. Ffs, Kieth.
Errr.... because this is a boxing forum and we are discussing boxing? Why not just answer? The gypsies will have been cheering their boy. Some black people will always root for the black boxer over the white boxer. Sean Monaghan has a large Irish-American following, For some people it's always about race, for others it's not. It's just life. If you don't think it is, you're either naive or stupid.
Except that’s not what I said. You’re effing agreeing me. :brick:

All I said was the fights aren’t promoted by promoters any more that way, that’s stuff we bring to the fights.
When did either of us say that Promoters promote fights that way in the modern era?

I acknowledged the entire time that it was an "unspoken" factor. Meaning that it wasn't publicly talked about by promoters or even most fans, but it's there nonetheless.
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Re: Round-by-Round: Carl Frampton vs. Luke Jackson / Tyson Fury - 18 August 2018

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Covfefe wrote: 18 Aug 2018, 18:40
keithmoonhangover wrote: 18 Aug 2018, 18:36
Covfefe wrote: 18 Aug 2018, 18:29

What does that have to do with my point though? I don’t understand why you’ve even involved yourself when you’re talking about something that has literally nothing to do with what I said. Ffs, Kieth.
Errr.... because this is a boxing forum and we are discussing boxing? Why not just answer? The gypsies will have been cheering their boy. Some black people will always root for the black boxer over the white boxer. Sean Monaghan has a large Irish-American following, For some people it's always about race, for others it's not. It's just life. If you don't think it is, you're either naive or stupid.
Except that’s not what I said. You’re effing agreeing me. :brick:

All I said was the fights aren’t promoted by promoters any more that way, that’s stuff we bring to the fights.
I'm not agreeing with you at all. You don't know what the fvck you're talking about snowflake.
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Re: Round-by-Round: Carl Frampton vs. Luke Jackson / Tyson Fury - 18 August 2018

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keithmoonhangover wrote: 18 Aug 2018, 18:42
Covfefe wrote: 18 Aug 2018, 18:40
keithmoonhangover wrote: 18 Aug 2018, 18:36

Errr.... because this is a boxing forum and we are discussing boxing? Why not just answer? The gypsies will have been cheering their boy. Some black people will always root for the black boxer over the white boxer. Sean Monaghan has a large Irish-American following, For some people it's always about race, for others it's not. It's just life. If you don't think it is, you're either naive or stupid.
Except that’s not what I said. You’re effing agreeing me. :brick:

All I said was the fights aren’t promoted by promoters any more that way, that’s stuff we bring to the fights.
I'm not agreeing with you at all. You don't know what the fvck you're talking about snowflake.
Are you drunk?
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Re: Round-by-Round: Carl Frampton vs. Luke Jackson / Tyson Fury - 18 August 2018

Post by keithmoonhangover »

Covfefe wrote: 18 Aug 2018, 18:41
keithmoonhangover wrote: 18 Aug 2018, 18:38
Covfefe wrote: 18 Aug 2018, 18:32

I don’t really know how I could have explained it any simpler. The fights are not promoted that way, your friends who decided may-Mac was that added their own bigotry to it, you didn’t look at it that way and I didn’t, why did they?
Holmes-Cooney was promoted by exploiting the races of the two fighters. Plenty of boxers down the years have played the race card when promoting a fight. Ray Mercer-Tommy Morrison is another example. You're wrong sir.
Thanks for the relevant point. :lol:

A thirty six year old fight proves promoters today promote on race. :lol:
How many promoters do you know? None, right?
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Re: Round-by-Round: Carl Frampton vs. Luke Jackson / Tyson Fury - 18 August 2018

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gilgamesh wrote: 18 Aug 2018, 18:42
Covfefe wrote: 18 Aug 2018, 18:40
keithmoonhangover wrote: 18 Aug 2018, 18:36

Errr.... because this is a boxing forum and we are discussing boxing? Why not just answer? The gypsies will have been cheering their boy. Some black people will always root for the black boxer over the white boxer. Sean Monaghan has a large Irish-American following, For some people it's always about race, for others it's not. It's just life. If you don't think it is, you're either naive or stupid.
Except that’s not what I said. You’re effing agreeing me. :brick:

All I said was the fights aren’t promoted by promoters any more that way, that’s stuff we bring to the fights.
When did either of us say that Promoters promote fights that way in the modern era?

I acknowledged the entire time that it was an "unspoken" factor. Meaning that it wasn't publicly talked about by promoters or even most fans, but it's there nonetheless.
I didn’t say you did, I just said that they don't promote that way these days and that we bring that angle to fights.
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Re: Round-by-Round: Carl Frampton vs. Luke Jackson / Tyson Fury - 18 August 2018

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Covfefe wrote: 18 Aug 2018, 18:43
keithmoonhangover wrote: 18 Aug 2018, 18:42
Covfefe wrote: 18 Aug 2018, 18:40

Except that’s not what I said. You’re effing agreeing me. :brick:

All I said was the fights aren’t promoted by promoters any more that way, that’s stuff we bring to the fights.
I'm not agreeing with you at all. You don't know what the fvck you're talking about snowflake.
Are you drunk?
No. You?
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Re: Round-by-Round: Carl Frampton vs. Luke Jackson / Tyson Fury - 18 August 2018

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keithmoonhangover wrote: 18 Aug 2018, 18:43
Covfefe wrote: 18 Aug 2018, 18:41
keithmoonhangover wrote: 18 Aug 2018, 18:38

Holmes-Cooney was promoted by exploiting the races of the two fighters. Plenty of boxers down the years have played the race card when promoting a fight. Ray Mercer-Tommy Morrison is another example. You're wrong sir.
Thanks for the relevant point. :lol:

A thirty six year old fight proves promoters today promote on race. :lol:
How many promoters do you know? None, right?
:lol:

World title boxing promoters? Zero? You?
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Re: Round-by-Round: Carl Frampton vs. Luke Jackson / Tyson Fury - 18 August 2018

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Covfefe wrote: 18 Aug 2018, 18:43
gilgamesh wrote: 18 Aug 2018, 18:42
Covfefe wrote: 18 Aug 2018, 18:40

Except that’s not what I said. You’re effing agreeing me. :brick:

All I said was the fights aren’t promoted by promoters any more that way, that’s stuff we bring to the fights.
When did either of us say that Promoters promote fights that way in the modern era?

I acknowledged the entire time that it was an "unspoken" factor. Meaning that it wasn't publicly talked about by promoters or even most fans, but it's there nonetheless.
I didn’t say you did, I just said that they don't promote that way these days and that we bring that angle to fights.
Alright then. I think that's "conversation had, and conversation ended" type stuff right there :lol:
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Re: Round-by-Round: Carl Frampton vs. Luke Jackson / Tyson Fury - 18 August 2018

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Covfefe wrote: 18 Aug 2018, 18:44
keithmoonhangover wrote: 18 Aug 2018, 18:43
Covfefe wrote: 18 Aug 2018, 18:41

Thanks for the relevant point. :lol:

A thirty six year old fight proves promoters today promote on race. :lol:
How many promoters do you know? None, right?
:lol:

World title boxing promoters? Zero? You?
How many boxing promoters of any kind do you know?
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Re: Round-by-Round: Carl Frampton vs. Luke Jackson / Tyson Fury - 18 August 2018

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keithmoonhangover wrote: 18 Aug 2018, 18:45
Covfefe wrote: 18 Aug 2018, 18:44
keithmoonhangover wrote: 18 Aug 2018, 18:43

How many promoters do you know? None, right?
:lol:

World title boxing promoters? Zero? You?
How many boxing promoters of any kind do you know?
What difference does it make, I don’t care what some local promoter does, I was specifically talking about world level boxing.

Please don’t regale me with the tales of local boxing promoters cause I literally have less interest in that than this conversation you’ve already ruined.
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Re: Round-by-Round: Carl Frampton vs. Luke Jackson / Tyson Fury - 18 August 2018

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keithmoonhangover wrote: 18 Aug 2018, 18:44
Covfefe wrote: 18 Aug 2018, 18:43
keithmoonhangover wrote: 18 Aug 2018, 18:42

I'm not agreeing with you at all. You don't know what the fvck you're talking about snowflake.
Are you drunk?
No. You?
Just the coke tonight then?
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Re: Round-by-Round: Carl Frampton vs. Luke Jackson / Tyson Fury - 18 August 2018

Post by Stuarty »

Covfefe wrote: 18 Aug 2018, 18:49
keithmoonhangover wrote: 18 Aug 2018, 18:44
Covfefe wrote: 18 Aug 2018, 18:43

Are you drunk?
No. You?
Just the coke tonight then?
What's wrong with Coke blud? :maybe:
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