So Fury is a bum now ?:)

[candyslim]

I don't think Chisora would be favourite to win, but if Fury beat him a third time this year, I'd feel a lot more confident that Fury had shown he still deserves to share a ring with someone as ferocious as Wilder.

[gilgamesh]

I don't think Chisora would be favourite to win, but if Fury beat him a third time this year, I'd feel a lot more confident that Fury had shown he still deserves to share a ring with someone as ferocious as Wilder.

For f*cks sake does he have to make a whole career out of beating on "Loser to the Stars"? Give him somebody he ain't fought before at least.

Whyte, Hell even Dave Allen or Lenroy Thomas would be better than Chisora again.

[armageto]

Whyte, Hell even Dave Allen or Lenroy Thomas would be better than Chisora again.

No

[gilgamesh]

Whyte, Hell even Dave Allen or Lenroy Thomas would be better than Chisora again.

No

Better than Chisora. We've already seen that movie twice.

[armageto]

Whyte, Hell even Dave Allen or Lenroy Thomas would be better than Chisora again.

No

Better than Chisora. We've already seen that movie twice.

I wouldn't want to see Chisora again, but it's a better option than Allen or Thomas. There are plenty of good step up fights out there than those two. Those guys are domestic level fighters, talent wise. Not that there is anything wrong with that, but Chisora at least would have a chance to win, or at least make it interesting. Price would be better than both of them.

[candyslim]

I don't think Chisora would be favourite to win, but if Fury beat him a third time this year, I'd feel a lot more confident that Fury had shown he still deserves to share a ring with someone as ferocious as Wilder.

For f*cks sake does he have to make a whole career out of beating on "Loser to the Stars"? Give him somebody he ain't fought before at least.

Whyte, Hell even Dave Allen or Lenroy Thomas would be better than Chisora again.

Ok point taken. I only said that because Chisora was the one mentioned. Anybody deserving of a top 20 rating would do for starters. Ideally next up a top 10 or even 15, then if he has done the business, he's good to go. (in with Wilder)

[gilgamesh]

I don't think Chisora would be favourite to win, but if Fury beat him a third time this year, I'd feel a lot more confident that Fury had shown he still deserves to share a ring with someone as ferocious as Wilder.

For f*cks sake does he have to make a whole career out of beating on "Loser to the Stars"? Give him somebody he ain't fought before at least.

Whyte, Hell even Dave Allen or Lenroy Thomas would be better than Chisora again.

Ok point taken. I only said that because Chisora was the one mentioned. Anybody deserving of a top 20 rating would do for starters. Ideally next up a top 10 or even 15, then if he has done the business, he's good to go. (in with Wilder)

He's good to go in with Wilder now. All I want to see is this prick get laid out on the canvas. I would've preferred Wilder be his 1st fight back.

[KiwiRider]

Maybe it's just me, but I haven't heard anybody call Fury a bum.

I call him a Fat Cokehead all the time, but I don't call him a Bum

Is not this thread and the others in a similar vein making your MOD hat itch and triggering the flashing red light?

[gilgamesh]

Maybe it's just me, but I haven't heard anybody call Fury a bum.

I call him a Fat Cokehead all the time, but I don't call him a Bum

Is not this thread and the others in a similar vein making your MOD hat itch and triggering the flashing red light?

Yeah it is.

He'llSeemtobeBanned if this style of posting keeps up...and it will if he is who everyone thinks he is.

Not for long though.

[KiwiRider]

Maybe it's just me, but I haven't heard anybody call Fury a bum.

I call him a Fat Cokehead all the time, but I don't call him a Bum

Is not this thread and the others in a similar vein making your MOD hat itch and triggering the flashing red light?

Yeah it is.

He'llSeemtobeBanned if this style of posting keeps up...and it will if he is who everyone thinks he is.

Not for long though.

sweet mate. The odd wind up is fun, but several a day is...

[candyslim]

For f*cks sake does he have to make a whole career out of beating on "Loser to the Stars"? Give him somebody he ain't fought before at least.

Whyte, Hell even Dave Allen or Lenroy Thomas would be better than Chisora again.

Ok point taken. I only said that because Chisora was the one mentioned. Anybody deserving of a top 20 rating would do for starters. Ideally next up a top 10 or even 15, then if he has done the business, he's good to go. (in with Wilder)

He's good to go in with Wilder now. All I want to see is this prick get laid out on the canvas. I would've preferred Wilder be his 1st fight back.

I feel your hopes for this fight might differ ever so slightly from mine Gil.

I want to see a great fight. You want to see the big fokker stretched out on the canvas and the sooner the better.

[gilgamesh]

Ok point taken. I only said that because Chisora was the one mentioned. Anybody deserving of a top 20 rating would do for starters. Ideally next up a top 10 or even 15, then if he has done the business, he's good to go. (in with Wilder)

He's good to go in with Wilder now. All I want to see is this prick get laid out on the canvas. I would've preferred Wilder be his 1st fight back.

I feel your hopes for this fight might differ ever so slightly from mine Gil.

I want to see a great fight. You want to see the big fokker stretched out on the canvas and the sooner the better.

I wouldn't mind a great fight, but as long as the end result is Fury knocked out it'll be great to me.

I don't particularly like Wilder either, and would be rooting against him if he were fighting basically ANYONE else, he just happens to be fighting a guy I dislike even more.

I've been rooting hard for Wilder to get smashed every step of the way in his title reign though for the most part.

Around 2015 my dislike for these guys was equal, and I used to joke that if they were to fight each other I'd be rooting for it to go 12 rounds with both guys dishing out brutal punishment, and with about 30 seconds to go they both score with their best punch, and it's a double KO that knocks 'em both out of the ring, and it's a Double KO draw.

Now I'd be rooting for Wilder because I at least have a shred of respect for him.

[candyslim]

Love 'em or hate 'em what we need is loads of quality heavyweights, the more the merrier.

I don't mind Fury at all. He's an amiable buffoon and can be very funny and gets people talking about boxing. Admittedly not all the publicity puts boxing in a good light but many would argue it badly needs publicity and can't afford to be too choosy.

I cannot bear to watch or listen to Wilder when he's being interviewed, or otherwise giving it the big one about how he's the dog's bollocks, and everyone's is running scared of him, but however much he riles me, if there was an announcement about say Wilder having decided to retire owing to recurring issues with his hands, I would feel genuinely gutted, devastated might not be too great an exaggeration.

We should cherish our pantomime villains while they're here. They won't always be.

[gilgamesh]

Love 'em or hate 'em what we need is loads of quality heavyweights, the more the merrier.

I don't mind Fury at all. He's an amiable buffoon and can be very funny and gets people talking about boxing. Admittedly not all the publicity puts boxing in a good light but many would argue it badly needs publicity and can't afford to be too choosy.

I cannot bear to watch or listen to Wilder when he's being interviewed, or otherwise giving it the big one about how he's the dog's bollocks, and everyone's is running scared of him, but however much he riles me, if there was an announcement about say Wilder having decided to retire owing to recurring issues with his hands, I would feel genuinely gutted, devastated might not be too great an exaggeration.

We should cherish our pantomime villains while they're here. They won't always be.

I definitely see no reason why we shouldn't be having a lot more good competitive Heavyweight fights.

The recent card featuring Whyte vs Parker and Chisora vs Takam showed that when you match solid contenders against solid contenders you get good fights.

I wish we'd see more of that. Everybody just kinda carefully picks their opponents until they get a title shot these days, but I mean there's all kinds of good quality matchups we could be having in the meantime.

Jarrell Miller vs Breazeale...fights or more fights like the examples above. There's plenty of those that COULD be had, and given the current landscape and the fairly padded resumes that people got. I'd say if a Heavyweight contender gets a few quality wins over fellow contenders like that he's probably established himself as worthy of a title shot.

[candyslim]

That's why I adore the fighters that'll fight anyone (if the money's right) they don't need to be world beaters.

This is especially true of heavyweights who seem to like a peaceful life more than a lot of the lighter weight classes, so when one of the big guys has 'los cojones grandes', it's even more welcome.

[Impractical Poster]

Fury looked pretty good. Not any worse than against Chisora or Hammer lol... It was not one of his perfomances of his life but also it was not the WORST. It was like 80%..

I remember how people trashed him that he looked like a garbage against Hammer and that their boy Wladimir will KO him EASY lol.

Atleast he steps us against Deontay Wilder and it will be in LAS VEGAS.

That coward boy Joshua has ducked 50 milions lmao.

You Joshtards now call Fury a bum?

That "bum" schooled Klitschko much easiter than your bodybuilder hero Joshua.

Can't wait till Joshua gets sparked out. The biggest hypejob of the century. Also his fan base became a cancer. Similiar to pactards and flomos

To be fair, Joshua was actually fighting Wlad.

I don't consider what Fury did that night fighting. It was disgraceful.

[Thomastearns]

Tyson Fury is not a bum, nor has he ever been. On the other hand he's not the second coming of Ali either, but he's certainly lit up the heavyweight scene with all his clowning around and over the top outlandish promises.

So now we're all waiting the confirmation of the Wilder fight. When will they finally confirm? Will they both really sign? Is it definitely Las Vegas? Will it be November or December? Which year? Will they actually fight or is this just another pantomime?

Perhaps someone will pull out out due to injury? Who's the understudy? Could Fury fail another drug test? The questions go on and on..

In the meantime the real champion Anthony Joshua prepares to face Alexander Povetkin.

[caldo2025]

Does anyone really think that Fury is getting inside the ring with Wilder next? There’s no chance that this fight goes off as planned.

I guarantee 1 or 2 postponements or fight straight out cancelled. Wilder’s crazy to tie up his career with this fish.

I really hope you're right Caldo this is too good a fight to just flush down the toilet, but it worries me how up for it all parties sound :

Obviously Wilder wants Fury ASAP while he's still easy to beat, hell even Bellew fancies his chances now and has admitted that he won't want him later. Wilder will be sure to catch clean, a rusty Fury and it's goodnight sweet prince. Then all you'll hear is how great he is having beaten the linear champ and who needs Joshua, when all he's done is take the easiest big fight available.

Tyson shouldn't want it yet but he's blinded by his massive yet fragile ego, and his resentment toward that upstart weight-lifter. He knows he is a way better boxer than Wilder, and that makes him dangerously dismissive of the power differential.

Fwank must be able to see the danger but I'm worried he's willing to throw Tyson under the bus just to spite Joshua and the hated Eddie Hearn.

Down to you then John, Peter, Hughie, Billy-Jo, anybody!

Candyslim, there’s no way that this fight is happening. Nor should Tyson want it unless he’s got it far more together upstairs than he lets on. I don’t want to see Wilder dancing over him and carrying on after what I see is a huge mismatch in my mind. Tyson in top shape would be competitive but I’m not sold on him beating two pizza cooks qualifies him as being “ready” for a freak of nature like Wilder.

When Wilder gets the windmill going after sizing up his opponent, the results have been obvious. This is a bad dude whether you like him or not. He’s got heart on top of it too as we saw against Ortiz. He’s not in there for a photo opp. I think before it’s said and done, Wilder will be the only current heavy joining the fraternity of Lewis, Wladimir, Holmes. Not quite Tyson or the greats but he’ll be in the next rung.

[jamamb]

i was very sceptical of it happening, but with showtime and bt announcing it as on and having advertising material, it seems like theyve gone too far for it to just be some joint marketing ploy. now it would look really bad imo if suddenly it didnt happen and just looked like some phony hype material all along..

...it would make you have to question the honesty of anything that came out of there sides

[candyslim]

This is exactly what is worrying me. Caldo should be absolutely right, what he says is logical and sensible, but when has what is logical and sensible guided what happens in heavyweight boxing?

Tyson would be able to outbox Wilder even at 350lbs but Wilder is no stranger to being out-boxed and coming from behind to KO his adversary. Ortiz was reputed to have a good chin, Tyson isn't.

Frankly it amazes me how many posters on here whom I consider to know about boxing, think that Tyson is ready for Wilder having shed the weight and beaten two punch-bags, and that Wilder is somehow to be applauded for taking this fight at this time, when all he is doing is exploiting the situation to get a big name on his win-record with the minimum of possible risk as is his usual M.O.

Caldo I sincerely hope you're right but I don't share your faith that good sense will prevail.

[Ilya Muromets]

I think that Fury with his hereditary boxing skill and size can tie up and outslick and beat the overrated and very carefully protected, tho undeniably hard hitting, Wilder right now, tho i would prefer him to have a legitimately competative fight first. But never mind, the guy makes his own rules and doesnt fit the standard mold. i think he can do it right now, and probably make it look easy in the bargain.

If the fight is in the USA his corner needs to watch out for the new ref and ring doctor tag team gag and all their other tricks. Like George Foreman said, boxers need to stop standing there and meekly accepting all the boxing bs. But Fury isn't the meek and quiet type is he?

[candyslim]

That wouldn't be how I'd describe him, no