Billy Joe Saunders throws a chicken at Wilder in Nando’s

gilgamesh
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Re: Billy Joe Saunders throws a chicken at Wilder in Nando’s

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SenorPipino wrote: 20 Aug 2018, 11:58
gilgamesh wrote: 19 Aug 2018, 23:34
Best Coast wrote: 19 Aug 2018, 20:36 BOTTOM LINE: If Deontay is cool with it and can laugh off the chicken-throwing as part of the promotion then it doesnt matter WHOEVER else might call it "racist", since HE was the "target"...

If they're just gonna shake hands, and be all buddy-buddy a week later. What was the point of it all in the first place though?

I mean they couldn't fight each other anyway so was the point just to grab a ridiculous headline, and make more people interested in who Deontay Wilder is by pulling some sort of jackass stunt?
Most of the outrageous stuff that goes on outside the ring in boxing is a "jackass stunt."

Those kind of things don't happen in the real world. Unless the real world is the WWE.
Yeah I got that, but I don't really get why they couldn't just pretend to have beef a little longer. The whole stunt just seems like it was pointless in the first place if you're gonna shake hands, and be all "Hey, we're cool everybody" less than a week after the video.

Maybe Billy Joe was getting a lot of hate, and wanting to kill the fire? I could see how a lot of people would've been like "Threw a chicken at him? What the f*ck was that?"
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Re: Billy Joe Saunders throws a chicken at Wilder in Nando’s

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I love it. Again, I was just covering myself in case that I was applauding someone for an act that was racially insensitive. It clearly was not so it’s moot. Hilarious whatever it was all about. BJS needs more limelight because I’d much rather see him (in what I’d call his prime) in there against GGG than this fraud of a fight with Canelo and judges that might as well hand in their scorecards today. That fight is doomed. It’s going the distance and it’s another horrible decision.
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Re: Billy Joe Saunders throws a chicken at Wilder in Nando’s

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caldo2025 wrote: 20 Aug 2018, 17:06 I love it. Again, I was just covering myself in case that I was applauding someone for an act that was racially insensitive. It clearly was not so it’s moot. Hilarious whatever it was all about. BJS needs more limelight because I’d much rather see him (in what I’d call his prime) in there against GGG than this fraud of a fight with Canelo and judges that might as well hand in their scorecards today. That fight is doomed. It’s going the distance and it’s another horrible decision.
With a year long onslaught of criticism about the judges, I figure Canelo will need a knockout or at least several knockdowns to emerge victorious.

The judges are going to bend over backwards and be generous to Golovkin to prove that they're not in the tank for GBP.

Something to keep in mind when you place your bet.

If Golovkin was convinced it was a no win situation, he never would have accepted the fight.

He and Loeffler will work the judges nonstop between now and fight night, the same way coaches work NBA referees in the media to get favorable officiating.

Canelo comes into this fight with a huge handicap.
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Re: Billy Joe Saunders throws a chicken at Wilder in Nando’s

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nah, there was onslaught on judges for past canelo fights and it didnt make the judges biased against him at all

he wont be handicapped at all and it wont make a difference, hell clearly outpoint ggg this time and be fairly scored a decision
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Re: Billy Joe Saunders throws a chicken at Wilder in Nando’s

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SenorPipino wrote: 20 Aug 2018, 11:58
gilgamesh wrote: 19 Aug 2018, 23:34
Best Coast wrote: 19 Aug 2018, 20:36 BOTTOM LINE: If Deontay is cool with it and can laugh off the chicken-throwing as part of the promotion then it doesnt matter WHOEVER else might call it "racist", since HE was the "target"...

If they're just gonna shake hands, and be all buddy-buddy a week later. What was the point of it all in the first place though?

I mean they couldn't fight each other anyway so was the point just to grab a ridiculous headline, and make more people interested in who Deontay Wilder is by pulling some sort of jackass stunt?
Most of the outrageous stuff that goes on outside the ring in boxing is a "jackass stunt."

Those kind of things don't happen in the real world. Unless the real world is the WWE.
Good observation!! Seems like the line between WWE and REAL sports is becoming blurred more and more as time goes on. ESPN website (biggest sports website in the US) actually now includes WWE in their lineup of sports they now cover. http://www.espn.com/wwe/ (Not sure when that started because I dont follow that nonsense, but it's been fairly recent that they started covering it like a real sport.

Now you've got REAL combat sports (boxing/MMA) increasingly using outrageous publicity stunts like the BJS chicken stunt and even more extreme craziness like Conor McGregor throwing that metal barrier against the bus that had Khabib Nurmagomedov & other UFC fighters onboard. http://time.com/5230268/conor-mcgregor-bus-attack-ufc/

The McGregor bus attack (and the fact that Conor got off so easy with a mere "slap on the wrist" in court) was so far over-the-top that I think we are going to see a ,lot more crazed "promotional" stunts like these in both boxing and MMA.
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Re: Billy Joe Saunders throws a chicken at Wilder in Nando’s

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Is there a possibility to look at it like a man trew a chicken at a man at a chicken resturant? And mabye making the correlation between black People and chicken form a steriotypical perspectiv is actually more rasict? I don't really like all this "identify a man as his colour first and for who he actually is second".

Either way this was funny, like the wlad - cannon stuff.
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Re: Billy Joe Saunders throws a chicken at Wilder in Nando’s

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David.skold wrote: 21 Aug 2018, 03:08 Is there a possibility to look at it like a man trew a chicken at a man at a chicken resturant? And mabye making the correlation between black People and chicken form a steriotypical perspectiv is actually more rasict? I don't really like all this "identify a man as his colour first and for who he actually is second".

Either way this was funny, like the wlad - cannon stuff.
your right, its actually these 'racism!' snowflakes that bring negative racial ideas into the topics

and lol i still want to know how caldo knows it was fried chicken that was thrown
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Re: Billy Joe Saunders throws a chicken at Wilder in Nando’s

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jamamb wrote: 21 Aug 2018, 03:46
David.skold wrote: 21 Aug 2018, 03:08 Is there a possibility to look at it like a man trew a chicken at a man at a chicken resturant? And mabye making the correlation between black People and chicken form a steriotypical perspectiv is actually more rasict? I don't really like all this "identify a man as his colour first and for who he actually is second".

Either way this was funny, like the wlad - cannon stuff.
your right, its actually these 'racism!' snowflakes that bring negative racial ideas into the topics

and lol i still want to know how caldo knows it was fried chicken that was thrown
Well it was a chicken place and fried chicken is the best chicken. An educated guess?
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Re: Billy Joe Saunders throws a chicken at Wilder in Nando’s

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I was reading that Nando's specializes in something called Peri Peri chicken.

So it likely wasn't fried chicken. No harm no foul, and apparently Wilder isn't bothered by it either.

Just a stunt to give them both a little media face time. Saunders has a bout coming up in October, remember?
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Re: Billy Joe Saunders throws a chicken at Wilder in Nando’s

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SenorPipino wrote: 21 Aug 2018, 12:21 I was reading that Nando's specializes in something called Peri Peri chicken.

So it likely wasn't fried chicken. No harm no foul, and apparently Wilder isn't bothered by it either.

Just a stunt to give them both a little media face time. Saunders has a bout coming up in October, remember?
Not many Americans know Saunders is close with fellow gypsy Tyson Fury, so if BJS can get himself associated with a megafight like Fury-Wilder it will definitely him advance his "brand" and reputation.

Regardless of how BJS's bout with Demetrius Andrade goes in October, I'm sure Saunders will have a high profile in the PPV telecast of Wilder-Fury, maybe even be helping Fury's corner team in the ring (before, during and after the fight) in November or whenever Fury-Wilder takes place.
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Re: Billy Joe Saunders throws a chicken at Wilder in Nando’s

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SenorPipino wrote: 20 Aug 2018, 20:23
caldo2025 wrote: 20 Aug 2018, 17:06 I love it. Again, I was just covering myself in case that I was applauding someone for an act that was racially insensitive. It clearly was not so it’s moot. Hilarious whatever it was all about. BJS needs more limelight because I’d much rather see him (in what I’d call his prime) in there against GGG than this fraud of a fight with Canelo and judges that might as well hand in their scorecards today. That fight is doomed. It’s going the distance and it’s another horrible decision.
With a year long onslaught of criticism about the judges, I figure Canelo will need a knockout or at least several knockdowns to emerge victorious.

The judges are going to bend over backwards and be generous to Golovkin to prove that they're not in the tank for GBP.

Something to keep in mind when you place your bet.

If Golovkin was convinced it was a no win situation, he never would have accepted the fight.

He and Loeffler will work the judges nonstop between now and fight night, the same way coaches work NBA referees in the media to get favorable officiating.

Canelo comes into this fight with a huge handicap.
I think that it all depends on Oscar and how he now feels about Canelo’s future profitability after the PEDs suspension. This and also what his current stable of boxers looks like.

We all know that Oscars stolen Floyd’s book on Vegas. He has the same crew in his pockets that Floyd had. Dave Moretti will again be one of the judges for this one and i’m sure that Bayless will probably get the call too. The same old familiar cast of characters but Oscars got a big decision to make.

If they get a clearly crooked decision then Oscar will be tortured for it. BUT he takes the heat for Canelo and he’s still got the highest grossing boxer on the planet to continue to rake.

If he thinks that Canelo has seen his best days then he can keep it fair and let honest judging determine the victor. Oscar will be applauded for it and his stock would go up as a gracious loser who put up the biggest fights in the last 2 years.

Tough call man. I honestly don’t think that Oscar can afford Canelo losing. That’s why I see this fight being no different than the first.
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