What is the most blatant incident of a referee helping another boxer out?

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Kalan wrote: 07 Oct 2017, 19:01 The worst I've ever seen is Tony Weeks stopping Kovalev-Ward II on low blows and giving the fight to his favorite.

Another is the way Robert Byrd refereed Mayweather-McGregor... Floyd was going to win anyway... He didn't need all your help.

In the first Wladimir-Brewster fight Byrd harassed Wlad for a minimal amount of holding... Floyd held like crazy in Mayweather-Guerrero with methodical breaking by Byrd and not a single warning -- just, "No NO NO NO NO... NO PUNCHING, whenever Guerrero had an arm free..

And the worst I've ever seen is Lou Moret in the Guerrero-Berto fight... Guerrero closed Berto's eyes with thumb strikes.. Wrestled him like a cowboy bulldogging a steer... and engaged in holding and hitting with impunity throughout the fight.. The worst was the final bell clanging away at least 30 times with Gerrero punching away non-stop for about 20 seconds after the round ended.. Moret acted like he didn't see that.. Just like Lewis swung a big left hook at Vitali well after the 6th round bell started clanging away.. Moret is freakin' blind as a bat or somebody put money in his pocket.

Richard Steele in the Mayweather-Judah fight.. Judah decked Floyd plain as day.. Steele clearly saw it, but signaled "no knockdown."

Joe Cortez in the Kirk Johnson-John Ruiz fight.. He harassed Johnson the whole fight while Ruiz was fouling like crazy.. He DQ'd Johnson for a borderline low blow that hit the top of the waistband.. And once after he stopped the action to harass Johnson, Ruiz walked up and headbutted Johnson right in the face.. And then the shocked Cortez trying to appear even handed he yelled at Johnson "You want to be disqualified?" ... and turned to Ruiz and yelled facetiously "Do YOU want to be disqualified?" ... I thought "Yeah right... Like you're going to DQ Ruiz you sack of shiit."
Cortez also gave Maidana a hard time against Khan too. And as much as I wanted Froch to win in both fights, Harold Foster’s stoppage of Groves in the first fight was as bad as Week’s stoppage of Kovalev.

Also who was the ref who allowed Lebedev a free shot on an out on his feet Roy Jones? That was basically sadism.
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Kalan wrote: 07 Oct 2017, 19:01
Another is the way Robert Byrd refereed Mayweather-McGregor... Floyd was going to win anyway... He didn't need all your help.
Byrd did a great job. He gave all kinds of warnings and proper instruction to McGregor so that it would be fan-friendly/friendlier and NOT end on a DQ.
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The one where the ref stepped in to save a fighter who was getting pummeled on the ropes ... and with the ref having already waved it off (ending the fight) ... and already between the fighters and actually embracing the "loser" to save him from further punishment ... the guy threw one last punch ... an over-hand right that knocked the "winner" out cold ... can't remember the details but it happened more-or-less just like that ...

... clearly an inadvertent act on the ref's part ... but he sure as hell helped the guy out ... he got KO'd and won by TKO ...
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Ref during Kessler Vs Ward was a joke. Ignored the most blatant headbutts in the world.
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Sequitorian wrote: 29 Aug 2018, 20:26 The one where the ref stepped in to save a fighter who was getting pummeled on the ropes ... and with the ref having already waved it off (ending the fight) ... and already between the fighters and actually embracing the "loser" to save him from further punishment ... the guy threw one last punch ... an over-hand right that knocked the "winner" out cold ... can't remember the details but it happened more-or-less just like that ...

... clearly an inadvertent act on the ref's part ... but he sure as hell helped the guy out ... he got KO'd and won by TKO ...
This one?
http://www.weirdboxing.info/boxings-str ... mad-kawoya
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Boxing Prospect wrote: 29 Aug 2018, 21:25
Sequitorian wrote: 29 Aug 2018, 20:26 The one where the ref stepped in to save a fighter who was getting pummeled on the ropes ... and with the ref having already waved it off (ending the fight) ... and already between the fighters and actually embracing the "loser" to save him from further punishment ... the guy threw one last punch ... an over-hand right that knocked the "winner" out cold ... can't remember the details but it happened more-or-less just like that ...

... clearly an inadvertent act on the ref's part ... but he sure as hell helped the guy out ... he got KO'd and won by TKO ...
This one?
http://www.weirdboxing.info/boxings-str ... mad-kawoya
That be the one ... thanks ... (Kawoya never fought again) ...

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And then there was Carlos Padilla Jr. pulling Ali's gloves down off of Frazier's neck, over-and-over again, in The Thrilla ... which may have been blatant but was also brilliant (and correct) ... clearly helped Frazier out ... (for all the good it did him in the end) ...
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Stuarty wrote: 06 Oct 2017, 12:16 Cortez with Floyd against Hatton was pretty vile.

Terry O'Connor scoring the McDermott fight to Tyson Fury by a landslide was a fuckin joke! Remember he also held Nathan Cleverly up when Krusher pounded him :lol:
Cortez job in that one was scandalous even by Mafia Vegas standards.
Then after the fight was over him and Mayweather posed for the cameras smiling broadly with their arms around each other.
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Ilya Muromets wrote: 31 Aug 2018, 18:40
Stuarty wrote: 06 Oct 2017, 12:16 Cortez with Floyd against Hatton was pretty vile.

Terry O'Connor scoring the McDermott fight to Tyson Fury by a landslide was a fuckin joke! Remember he also held Nathan Cleverly up when Krusher pounded him :lol:
Cortez job in that one was scandalous even by Mafia Vegas standards.
Then after the fight was over him and Mayweather posed for the cameras smiling broadly with their arms around each other.
Robbed us of a potentially great fight that night actually!
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That f'n ref in the McClellan/Benn fight...that first round was unbelievable in the favoritism for the home fighter...and all the rabbit punches that almost killed McClellan.... should never have been allowed to ref again...
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Boxings official money launderer, crooked idiot Randy Neuman, dressed up in a referee suit bellowing and harrassing Andrew Golota in numerous fights. I recall George Foreman becoming irate over Neuman's bad behavior in the Grant fight.

Pretty much any high profile fight in Mafia Vegas, you'll see the hired refs and judgesses and drug test crews and other peripheral "friends of ours" at work.

The tag team between the so called ref and ring doctor in the Ortiz -Wilder fight, and the way they've now disappeared round 8, that one takes the cake.
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Stuarty wrote: 31 Aug 2018, 18:42
Ilya Muromets wrote: 31 Aug 2018, 18:40
Stuarty wrote: 06 Oct 2017, 12:16 Cortez with Floyd against Hatton was pretty vile.

Terry O'Connor scoring the McDermott fight to Tyson Fury by a landslide was a fuckin joke! Remember he also held Nathan Cleverly up when Krusher pounded him :lol:
Cortez job in that one was scandalous even by Mafia Vegas standards.
Then after the fight was over him and Mayweather posed for the cameras smiling broadly with their arms around each other.
Robbed us of a potentially great fight that night actually!
The crooked son of a bitch wouldn't let Hatton fight on the inside. He'd dive in whenever they got close. The highlight of that fight was when Hatton signalled him to kiss his ass. I was very disappointed in the English hooligans for not wrecking the joint.
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Not the most blatant but the most recent

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Looked pretty blatant to me, good grief. "A punch landed -- this fight's over."
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Lawrence Cole, I think it was, in the Figueroa/Burns fight. Guy was atrocious. He was holding Burns' arms throughout the fight and giving Figueroa leverage to punch him square. Was absolutely bizarre.
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that ref in the amateur fight was just so obviously itching to give the russian the victory. the first standing count was ridiculous. granted the second count ( not stoppage itself) was probably justified given how the blue guy stumbled and how that type of thing is usually treated in the ams, but very very eager to stop it and give it to the russian

gotta admit things seem pretty shady with russians in the ams, the russian hw tischenko getting 3-0 in the olympic final when he was close to schooled was just so laughable
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Mexi-Box wrote: 01 Sep 2018, 01:17 Lawrence Cole, I think it was, in the Figueroa/Burns fight. Guy was atrocious. He was holding Burns' arms throughout the fight and giving Figueroa leverage to punch him square. Was absolutely bizarre.
Cole is one of the worst refs in all of boxing.
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Ruthless-RKO wrote: 06 Oct 2017, 10:55 What is the most blatant incident of a referee helping another boxer out?

I'll start..

Terry o'Connor carrying cleverly to the corner
He’s got plenty of previous. Big case of him helping a boxer was when he lifted Fury’s hand in victory after he lost to McDermott. Turns out McDermotts Dad beat O’Connor years before in the pro ranks!
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I did not remember fight, but i saw referee pick up hometown fighter from canvas and walk with him to the corner, fight then continued
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jamamb wrote: 01 Sep 2018, 01:32 that ref in the amateur fight was just so obviously itching to give the russian the victory. the first standing count was ridiculous. granted the second count ( not stoppage itself) was probably justified given how the blue guy stumbled and how that type of thing is usually treated in the ams, but very very eager to stop it and give it to the russian

gotta admit things seem pretty shady with russians in the ams, the russian hw tischenko getting 3-0 in the olympic final when he was close to schooled was just so laughable
Jam, this sh*t is happenning everywhere, let's not forget how much "luck" Joshua got getting olympic gold in his backyard..
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Nigel Benn vs. Gerald McClellan
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Forgot the name of the official but it was the JMM vs Jimrex Jaca. Ref informed JMM that he is ahead in scorecards when an accidental headbutt happened. Good thing JMM is no p**** he didn't take the easy way out and KO'ed Jaca. :bag: :bag: :bag:
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Ossyrules wrote: 07 Oct 2017, 03:31 Lucian Bute vs Andrade 1. Byte has about 20-25 seconds to recover from a knock down
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Kovalev vs Ward 2 is the worst one that I watched live my self. Really high profile too.

Joshua vs Parker was bit too obvious for my taste too and so was Wilder vs Ortiz.

I just wish they would be less obvious about helping the home fighter. They should at least try to keep up the illusion of fair fight :evil:

How someone is still betting on boxing seems totally crazy to me :maybe:
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