AJ and PEDs....?

[Stuarty]

What do you think? Is he at it?

If he is, what is it you reckon he's on and how does he manage to get away with it?

Not my area of expertise this kind of thing but I know there's a few guys on here that are clued up. Couple of my mates are quite well informed on these things and they reckon he's 100% at it.

I know there's certain masking agents for certain PEDs etc but again I'm pretty clueless so I'll leave it to the forum?

[tobyh5]

Clean, obviously.

He is a one-off and can do what no scientific study or research suggests is possible and which I do not believe another human has ever done (add that amount of muscle mass, on an already trained physique, naturally, in that short space of time).


How dare you suggest that a man, who has physique results better than actual caught users, andin a sport littered with drugs and PEDs would have taken them.

[Stuarty]

Clean, obviously.

He is a one-off and can do what no scientific study or research suggests is possible and which I do not believe another human has ever done (add that amount of muscle mass, on an already trained physique, naturally, in that short space of time).


How dare you suggest that a man, who has physique results better than actual caught users, andin a sport littered with drugs and PEDs would have taken them.

I was expecting more of a technical breakdown from you

[Stuarty]

One of my mates sent me a pic of Canelo in training now and in training for last GGG fight I know these pics can be doctored and all different angles etc but it cracked me up!

[Loynesy]

I suspect the MODs will take this one down.

[jameswilson]

I'd be amazed if he isn't.

He doesn't seem to display any of the tell tale signs that others who've gone on to fail tests have done but maybe some of those side effects don't show up as much on a black person. In saying that he does have a gut on him but as I've said before with the amount of stuff he must take he'd surely have far more of one than he has.

In terms of how he gets away with it I expect it's a lot like my theory on how Carl Lewis and Florrence Griffith Joyner got away with it (in Lewis's case he actually did fail a test.) Through cover up. Can you imagine had they both been tested positive in the lead up or after the 88 Olympics. Athletics and US sport would have been in a place they couldn't afford to be in. Likewise if AJ fails a test then it just puts far too big a scar on British boxing and sport.

[lillywhite14]

How many haven’t?

Even Fury has been at them.

[gilgamesh]

Innocent until Proven Guilty is my policy on PED's and the athletes who may or may not be on them.

[jameswilson]

Innocent until Proven Guilty is my policy on PED's and the athletes who may or may not be on them.

I am the same to a degree but there was so much smoke without fire on Lance Armstrong for years and look what happened there.

[gilgamesh]

Innocent until Proven Guilty is my policy on PED's and the athletes who may or may not be on them.

I am the same to a degree but there was so much smoke without fire on Lance Armstrong for years and look what happened there.

Right. If you're guilty it will be revealed in due time.

[samwbr]

Innocent until Proven Guilty is my policy on PED's and the athletes who may or may not be on them.

I am the same to a degree but there was so much smoke without fire on Lance Armstrong for years and look what happened there.

Lance was hiding in plain sight. Obvious to a blind man really.

[Andrew]

Since the front Wlad onwards he has had VADA testing for 8 weeks before fights.

In that period he is definitely clean.

Outside of that it's UKAD

[DrDuke]

Of course, he's juiced. It can't be other way with a professional athlete of that level and with that build.

[Boxerbeetle]

I suspect he’s on about the same amount of PEDs as the average heavyweight.

[fanman]

yea, why single him out. the furys, povetkin and ortiz have failed tests. aj looks shredded as hell. thats the whole top of the division nearly.

[Wa1nuts]

Yes.

Probably hgh and cycling testosterone with a sort ester to help avoid detection if I had to guess.

All those people that moan about Canelo is ridiculous it was trace amounts of clen. Go an take some clen see what effects you get. It might help you lose a bit of fat but that's about it in the real world.

Id be very surprised of Aj wasn't on the gear. I dont know exactly how much size he put on in the exact time frame are but it's something that's very difficult to do especially when training for boxing not bodybuilding

[Coco]

[Counter-puncher]

[tiny_acres]

Until he fails the test he's clean in my view.
But if he does ever fail a test. The same conspiracy nuts will defend him like they still defend Povetkin and Canelo

[Ruthless-RKO]

On his snaps (snapchat), he’s having his bloods taken every other day.. guys a machine!!

[coneye]

Esed to train a guy who , at 20 did'nt look to far off a mini AJ , at 27 and lots of hard training looked like a mini AJ , at 48 he still looks the same , like a 78 kilo body builder , he also happens to be a really good mate and i can 100% gaurantee he never ever juiced then or now , , I think its in his genes , his kids are the same , he's half greek half maori

Aj though , i don't know , personaly i know bugger al about peds , , they tell me a pair of bitch tits and acne are give away signs or getting ripped without doing the work , Aj would be doing the work Dunno suppose we'll know if he ever gets caught ,

[TheLeprechaun]

Only British fans think he isn't.

[Stuarty]

Only British fans think he isn't.

Most fans I know (all British) either think he is or are sceptical.... Same when I listen to podcasts.

[jamamb]

with so much extra to be made for boxers who win at top level im suspicious of any high level boxer. doesnt mean they do use, but there is big incentive to and masking methods and knowledge of effectively cycling in and out have advanced, so that you can get the benefits but still not test positive

so i defo wont say aj is using, but just any high level boxer it wouldnt surprise me if they are. and in the case of a guy like jm marquez i am very confident he was even though he never tested positive....just too many signs of it that would be unlikely to all occur together on a non user.

[keithmoonhangover]

With the right diet and training it's possible to get a physique like AJ. So he got bigger and more muscular by training most days and having access to top trainers, dietitians and equipment. Christ, look at pictures of Jack Johnson back in the day, his physique improved massively.. A fighter's build does not define whether he's on PED's. Look at James Toney and the Fury's for proof of what PED cheats can look like.