GGG: " I know who I am and I know who Canelo is, and what he has become"

[apollo creed]

Golovkin: “So many people show me their true face during and after the first fight with Canelo. I am talking about lots of different people. I know who I am and I know who Canelo is, and what he has become. I know what kind of people I am dealing with in this rematch, what everyone is about. I do not think about the first fight anymore. I did not lose that fight. I walked out of the ring with all my belts, still the world champion.

"The second fight is much bigger and more interesting. The last fight was a good experience because it was a learning experience. Now it is a different situation. I understand the situation. I now know that boxing is not just a sport. It is a business. That is one thing I learned from the first fight."

I wonder if Golovkin and his team know more 'interesting' things than the media about Canelo and his team ?

[gilgamesh]

It probably shouldn't have taken that 1st fight for him to understand "It's more than a sport, it's a business" thing, but better late than never I guess.

Only about 9 days off.

[RScarf1]

He didn’t know the judges were going to be biased? I guess since his fights don’t usually go the distance, it is not something he considered.

[Ilya Muromets]

He didn’t know the judges were going to be biased?...

In Las Vegas? Surely someone might have told him about Las Vegas and how it originated and what it is. If he asked me I would have told him.

[SenorPipino]

I liked Golovkin (a little) better when he seldom opened his mouth and whined and complained about everything under the sun.

Golovkin cries about Mexican meat, he cries about infinitesimal amounts of clenbuterol, he cries about gloves, he cries about hand wraps, he cries about judges, he cries about De La Hoya, he cries about money.

It never ends.

Can you imagine a real middleweight champion like Hagler whining about everything? He just focused on fighting. He didn't care about anything else and constantly point fingers. Hagler just took care of business.

I have a strong hunch that late on the night of Sept. 15, Golovkin is going to really have something to cry about.

[apollo creed]

I liked Golovkin (a little) better when he seldom opened his mouth and whined and complained about everything under the sun.

Golovkin cries about Mexican meat, he cries about infinitesimal amounts of clenbuterol, he cries about gloves, he cries about hand wraps, he cries about judges, he cries about De La Hoya, he cries about money.

It never ends.

Can you imagine a real middleweight champion like Hagler whining about everything? He just focused on fighting. He didn't care about anything else and constantly point fingers. Hagler just took care of business.

I have a strong hunch that late on the night of Sept. 15, Golovkin is going to really have something to cry about.

yeah because he's gonna make too much money

[boxing_rocks]

Golovkin cries about Mexican meat, he cries about infinitesimal amounts of clenbuterol ...

[KiwiRider]

Golovkin cries about Mexican meat, he cries about infinitesimal amounts of clenbuterol ...

Classic!
"I eat it, I don't inject it"

[SenorPipino]

I liked Golovkin (a little) better when he seldom opened his mouth and whined and complained about everything under the sun.

Golovkin cries about Mexican meat, he cries about infinitesimal amounts of clenbuterol, he cries about gloves, he cries about hand wraps, he cries about judges, he cries about De La Hoya, he cries about money.

It never ends.

Can you imagine a real middleweight champion like Hagler whining about everything? He just focused on fighting. He didn't care about anything else and constantly point fingers. Hagler just took care of business.

I have a strong hunch that late on the night of Sept. 15, Golovkin is going to really have something to cry about.

yeah because he's gonna make too much money

Dat true too.

And Golovkin should be kissing Canelo's behind for giving him the opportunity to earn such riches.

He wouldn' t come close to this money if Canelo and GBP had rightfully terminated negotiations at the 12th hour deadline a few months back.

Instead Golovkin would be stuck with another meager paycheck courtesy of non-PPV fights with either Murata, Saunders or maybe Derevyanchenko.

When it comes down to his upcoming financial haul, Golovkin finally doesn't have something to whine about.

[SenorPipino]

Golovkin cries about Mexican meat, he cries about infinitesimal amounts of clenbuterol ...

Classic!
"I eat it, I don't inject it"

Has there ever been any evidence offered that Canelo injected it?

That's not what the NAC concluded.

[jvincent]

Has there ever been any evidence offered that Canelo injected it?

That's not what the NAC concluded.

Even if there was with all this "new media" (fanboy s**t) Im sure someone would be able to spin it in a favourable light.

Edit: This goes for both sides. I dont care who wins.

[boxing_rocks]

Classic!
"I eat it, I don't inject it"

Has there ever been any evidence offered that Canelo injected it?

That's not what the NAC concluded.

Was somebody looking for an evidence? If they could, they would shove the topic under a rug.

Boxers start laughing when "Mexican meat" excuse is mentioned.

[Counter-puncher]

Golovkin cries about Mexican meat, he cries about infinitesimal amounts of clenbuterol ...

OMFG I always liked Estrada but now, oh man, that's mancrush territory now

[SenorPipino]

Golovkin cries about Mexican meat, he cries about infinitesimal amounts of clenbuterol ...

OMFG I always liked Estrada but now, oh man, that's mancrush territory now

Well that borders on sick. Mancrush over Gallito.

Of course Estrada wouldn't be talking unsubstantiated garbage if he was linked to GBP, would he?

But he might be talking unsubstantiated garbage if he's linked to 360, right?

360. Tom Loeffler. Golovkin.

It doesn't take Columbo to figure out how the pieces all fall into place.

Mancrush over Estrada. What next?????

[fanman]

... anyway, i'm liking the bad blood that has developed, on both sides. it will be interesting to see whether canelo is smaller this time, & will he be more aggressive? will triple g start faster, or go for broke more in the middle rounds. exciting prospects.

[boxing_rocks]

... anyway, i'm liking the bad blood that has developed, on both sides. it will be interesting to see whether canelo is smaller this time, & will he be more aggressive? will triple g start faster, or go for broke more in the middle rounds. exciting prospects.

I doubt that they will change their strategies. They will try to correct minor things but they will not go all out brawling, especially Canelo who knows how it will end for him.

[boxing_rocks]

OMFG I always liked Estrada but now, oh man, that's mancrush territory now

Well that borders on sick. Mancrush over Gallito.

Of course Estrada wouldn't be talking unsubstantiated garbage if he was linked to GBP, would he?

But he might be talking unsubstantiated garbage if he's linked to 360, right?

360. Tom Loeffler. Golovkin.

It doesn't take Columbo to figure out how the pieces all fall into place.

Mancrush over Estrada. What next?????

Estrada is promoted by Zanfer Promotions. He doesn't need to attack Canelo to get some benefits. Is Ward associated with Loefler too? He started laughing when Mexican meat was mentioned. Everybody knows that the meat excuse on this level is bullsh!t.

[Ilya Muromets]

[gilgamesh]

I'm a big fan of Golovkin, but all the talk don't mean nothing. Let's see what happens when the bell rings.

The fact that he's talking so much really isn't a good sign, but I hope he's able to follow through on his words, and fights in that extra aggressive way like he really WANTS the KO this time.

[Ilya Muromets]

I'm a big fan of Golovkin, but all the talk don't mean nothing. Let's see what happens when the bell rings.

The fact that he's talking so much really isn't a good sign, but I hope he's able to follow through on his words, and fights in that extra aggressive way like he really WANTS the KO this time.

He said it himself in this interview, just talk, just hyping the fight, means nothing.

[KiwiRider]

Classic!
"I eat it, I don't inject it"

Has there ever been any evidence offered that Canelo injected it?

That's not what the NAC concluded.

I don't porport to know either way, it was just the humour of how he worded it.

[Thomastearns]

... anyway, i'm liking the bad blood that has developed, on both sides. it will be interesting to see whether canelo is smaller this time, & will he be more aggressive? will triple g start faster, or go for broke more in the middle rounds. exciting prospects.

I doubt that they will change their strategies. They will try to correct minor things but they will not go all out brawling, especially Canelo who knows how it will end for him.

This is why Golovkin is being far more vocal this. Not only does it help promote the fight but it might just also mess with Canelo's head.

Perhaps Canelo's strongest psychological feature is his clear headed self control. He came with a game plan last time and stuck with it and will attempt to do the same again this time. It must take enormous self control to do this as Tyson's famous quote is almost a rule ('Everybody has a plan until they get hit').

GGG needs to put some distraction into Canelo's mind, chip away at his self confidence, even if it's only subliminally. He can't risk a rerun of the first fight.

So Golovkin is trying to imply is that Canelo is a fraud. A criticism which often dogs many fighters through their careers, but in Canelo's case it never went away. Despite his protests about being the victim, the underdog, it's been long been argued that he has been little more than a protected golden cash cow throughout his career.

There may have been a brief hiatus in the finger pointing after the Khan fight but now it's definitely back.

So is Canelo Alvarez really little more than a fraud? We shall soon find out.

Or could it be that the Golovkin camp (GGG, Sanchez and Loeffler) were just naive amateurs who only got this far due to GGGs knockout power when it came to fighting at this level?

[SFW]

I think everything said and done by GGG, intentionally or not, has been chipping away at Canelo's psyche ever since the guy got caught red handed cheating. That seems to be a weak spot, as we see constant whining or more lying, fake promises and empty threats almost daily from that team of rats. They are obviously still distraught over the last time Golovkin bent them over a table and took a fat chunk of money right out of their pocket. Anything those scumbags conceded was based on the intention of cheating the system again. Be it corrupt judging like last time, dope like they tried this time, or whatever method they think is feasible. Any empty headed dick rider can live in denial about it, luckily that's not common.

The scariest element Canelo brings into the ring is his financial influence. His most dangerous attribute. It sure as fornicate ain't the hook or uppercut that G walked through easily lol. The sport cheats to accomodate Canelo. Don't be surprised if it happens again. He can earn a bad loss, barely win a round, and get awarded a draw card. That's some David Copperfield shit. A knockout is practically necessary here. Hell I'd rather see Canelo knock GGG out than another despicable decision. At least it's an honest ending.

[jamamb]

people need to watch the last 3 rounds again. when canelo mustve realised he needed to put more work in and began trading with ggg. those were big rounds for canelo. he was getting there first and clearly winning the exchanges.

he won those last 3 rounds on i think all the cards or 2 of the cards. he took some good shots from ggg and smiled.

if they exchange, it will be canelo with the advantage

[Enlightened-One]

I liked Golovkin (a little) better when he seldom opened his mouth and whined and complained about everything under the sun.

Golovkin cries about Mexican meat, he cries about infinitesimal amounts of clenbuterol, he cries about gloves, he cries about hand wraps, he cries about judges, he cries about De La Hoya, he cries about money.

It never ends.

Can you imagine a real middleweight champion like Hagler whining about everything? He just focused on fighting. He didn't care about anything else and constantly point fingers. Hagler just took care of business.

I have a strong hunch that late on the night of Sept. 15, Golovkin is going to really have something to cry about.

It's funny you should say that! The following article written yesterday seems to mirror your thoughts precisely:

"Canelo says Golovkin and team are complaining losers"

Saul Canelo Alvarez is fed up with the complaining by Gennady Golovkin and his team about him, and he sees them as little more than whining losers. Canelo (49-1-2, 34 Kos) only has to listen to Golovkin’s team for nine more days because the rematch will be taking place on September 15 at the T-Mobile Arena in Las Vegas, Nevada.

Canelo can shut Golovkin and his team up if he can beat him without controversy. It’s going to need to be a decisive victory though.

Here’s a short list of the things Golovkin and/or his team unhappy about in regards to Canelo:

– Canelo testing positive twice for clenbuterol

– Excuse given by Canelo for testing positive for clenbuterol. Canelo blamed the two positive tests on having eaten contaminated beef

– Lack of remorse and shame from Canelo for testing positive for clenbuterol

– Wanted to use non-tested gloves

– 12 round draw from last September

– Canelo’s hand-wraps – GGG’s trainer Abel Sanchez says Canelo used an illegal ‘stacking’ technique of having his hands wrapped. As it turns out, the stacking technique is legal in Nevada. Sanchez says he won’t use the same technique for Golovkin though, because he doesn’t want him to get used to this style and then feel uncomfortable when he’s fighting in a state where it’s illegal to use those types of wraps

– Canelo’s running in previous fight

– Unwillingness to fight on Canelo’s part in first fight. He hung on the ropes most of the fight, and would run when the pressure became too much for him

– Insistence on being the A-side in the promotion

– Locker room

“They talk too much,” said Canelo to Fight News. “They complain about everything, but you know what? These are only excuses and complaints. They complain about everything and that’s what losers do, that’s what losers do.”

Golovkin (38-0-1, 34 KOs) is still unbeaten and he is viewed as the clear winner of the previous fight with Canelo, so it’s hard to brand him as a loser in terms the sport of boxing. Canelo might not like the complaining that GGG, his trainer Sanchez and promoter Tom Loeffler have been doing, but that doesn’t make Golovkin a loser in competition. He was the better fighter than Canelo in the view of the boxing fans that saw the fight.

“They’re complaining about the gloves, about the hand wraps, now about the locker room because we make too much noise, they want a new one,” Canelo said. ”All excuses. Like I said before, it’s all losers talking. They want the national anthem played before the fights, so now it’s going to be at 4PM. Like I said, they’re already coming into the fight with a loser mentality,” Canelo said.

Canelo must understand that there’s a lot of bad blood from Golovkin and his team because of how things went last September. They wanted the victory something awful. When Canelo tested positive for clenbuterol, that was like throwing fuel on the first. It really stocked GGG and his team’s furnaces, as they saw that as Canelo playing dirty pool.