Best Middleweight Fighters of the 21st Century

[boxing_rocks]

Golovkin
Golovkin
Golovkin
Hopkins

[jamamb]

Golovkin
Golovkin
Golovkin
Hopkins

lolololol.....reminds me of the days when wed get thread = "where do you rank usyk p4p?" boxingrocks reply = 'gassiev'. howd that go for you mate

ggg arguably doesnt even rank ahead of taylor, sergio, or pavlik

[jezzamundo]

Golovkin
Golovkin
Golovkin
Hopkins

lolololol.....reminds me of the days when wed get thread = "where do you rank usyk p4p?" boxingrocks reply = 'gassiev'. howd that go for you mate

ggg arguably doesnt even rank ahead of taylor, sergio, or pavlik

You'd be an idiot to argue that. His middleweight resume isn't too far behind Hopkins', and should really be considered #1 if we're only counting fights since 2000.

[jamamb]

ya, if only there career best achievements were barely scraping by danny j with a generous decision

[DrDuke]

ggg arguably doesnt even rank ahead of taylor, sergio, or pavlik

I doubt about that, but I also doubt about him winning them. Probably he would have handled Taylor, but not Sergio or Pavlik.

[Mexi-Box]

Golovkin
Golovkin
Golovkin
Hopkins

lolololol.....reminds me of the days when wed get thread = "where do you rank usyk p4p?" boxingrocks reply = 'gassiev'. howd that go for you mate

ggg arguably doesnt even rank ahead of taylor, sergio, or pavlik

Ridiculous.

[jamamb]

just not so impressed by these guys who attrition there way into these lofty numbers through beating a lot of mediocre fighters and never really impressing vs top opponents

guys like usyk and loma for example pushed themselves fast and already have better wins then ggg. its absolutely possible to have a better achievment in a small amount of fights compared to a large number

ggg is basically a lot of c+/b level guys on his record, and then when he stepped up to top mws he barely beat dj and didnt even beat canelo

and i really have no idea why so many ppl think its so clear that a guy like taylor was no better then a guy like jacobs and couldnt give ggg even more problems

[gilgamesh]

Hopkins and Golovkin are far and away the Top 2 Middleweights of the 21st century so far. You could argue GGG is #1 if you want to argue on the basis that a large portion of B-Hop's work as a Middleweight came in the 1990's which would've been the 20th century, but if you're just carrying over all that into the next century then he'd still have to be #1 so far I'd say.

With a KO win over Canelo, and perhaps one more big name title defense GGG would have a case for passing him up though.

[tiny_acres]

Hopkins and Golovkin are far and away the Top 2 Middleweights of the 21st century so far. You could argue GGG is #1 if you want to argue on the basis that a large portion of B-Hop's work as a Middleweight came in the 1990's which would've been the 20th century, but if you're just carrying over all that into the next century then he'd still have to be #1 so far I'd say.

With a KO win over Canelo, and perhaps one more big name title defense GGG would have a case for passing him up though.

Honestly though who else besides Canelo is left at Middleweight that's a big name?

[dagilechia]

just not so impressed by these guys who attrition there way into these lofty numbers through beating a lot of mediocre fighters and never really impressing vs top opponents

guys like usyk and loma for example pushed themselves fast and already have better wins then ggg. its absolutely possible to have a better achievment in a small amount of fights compared to a large number

ggg is basically a lot of c+/b level guys on his record, and then when he stepped up to top mws he barely beat dj and didnt even beat canelo

and i really have no idea why so many ppl think its so clear that a guy like taylor was no better then a guy like jacobs and couldnt give ggg even more problems

He did beat Canelo. It was at least 115-113 Golovkin. No way to score it even as a draw. That Golovkin didnt beat Canelo is like saying that Chisora didnt beat Helenius or that Mayweather Canelo was arguably a draw because one of the judges had it a draw. GGG vs Jacobs was closer than GGG vs Canelo. IMO even fight like Jacobs Sulecki was closer.

[gilgamesh]

Hopkins and Golovkin are far and away the Top 2 Middleweights of the 21st century so far. You could argue GGG is #1 if you want to argue on the basis that a large portion of B-Hop's work as a Middleweight came in the 1990's which would've been the 20th century, but if you're just carrying over all that into the next century then he'd still have to be #1 so far I'd say.

With a KO win over Canelo, and perhaps one more big name title defense GGG would have a case for passing him up though.

Honestly though who else besides Canelo is left at Middleweight that's a big name?

I mean beating Saunders or Jermall Charlo while picking up another belt, and added a 22nd and 23rd title defense to the record would certainly help his resume. How much is up for debate, but it wouldn't hurt.

[tiny_acres]

Hopkins and Golovkin are far and away the Top 2 Middleweights of the 21st century so far. You could argue GGG is #1 if you want to argue on the basis that a large portion of B-Hop's work as a Middleweight came in the 1990's which would've been the 20th century, but if you're just carrying over all that into the next century then he'd still have to be #1 so far I'd say.

With a KO win over Canelo, and perhaps one more big name title defense GGG would have a case for passing him up though.

Honestly though who else besides Canelo is left at Middleweight that's a big name?

I mean beating Saunders or Jermall Charlo while picking up another belt, and added a 22nd and 23rd title defense to the record would certainly help his resume. How much is up for debate, but it wouldn't hurt.

I've never been a big GGG fan. But I'd have his reign neck and neck with Hopkins.
I think a clear win over Canelo and he's #1 at middle for this century

[Enlightened-One]

Golovkin may be in the same ballpark of possessing a similar amount of talent as Hopkins, but unfortunately for Gennady, his resume contains nowhere near as many as accomplished fighters.

For those that are hideously upset about the claim I've just made,then I sincerely look forward to addressing your counter-argument!

Seriously, bring it on, I dare ya!

But before do that, review The RING ratings of Golovkin's opponents prior to challenging me!

Come on kids, let's see the very best you've got!

[boxing_rocks]

Golovkin's resume is no worse than Bernard's AT MIDDLEWEIGHT. After beating Canelo, it will be better.

[Lackeos]

Hopkins and Golovkin are far and away the Top 2 Middleweights of the 21st century so far. You could argue GGG is #1 if you want to argue on the basis that a large portion of B-Hop's work as a Middleweight came in the 1990's which would've been the 20th century, but if you're just carrying over all that into the next century then he'd still have to be #1 so far I'd say.

With a KO win over Canelo, and perhaps one more big name title defense GGG would have a case for passing him up though.

Honestly though who else besides Canelo is left at Middleweight that's a big name?

There's literally no one else. ... Except BJS, Andrade, and Charlo.

[jamamb]

ppl need to remember how devoid of top wins ggg actually is. its easy to say meh to guys like bjs , but hed easily be one of the very top wins on gggs record if ggg beat him, and thats even if bjs loses to andrade

tbh though, i really doubt ggg would have a winning record out of 3 if he fought bjs,andrade, and charlo.

[Enlightened-One]

ppl need to remember how devoid of top wins ggg actually is. its easy to say meh to guys like bjs , but hed easily be one of the very top wins on gggs record if ggg beat him, and thats even if bjs loses to andrade

I kind of agree with pretty much everything you've written.

Why are people granting Gennady Golovkin an honorary rite of passage to “all-time-greatness” based on world title victories overthe likes of?

• Dominic Wade
• Willie Monroe Jr.
• Osumanu Adama
• Marco Antonio Rubio
• Curtis Stevens
• Nobuhiro Ishida
• Gabriel Rosado
• Grzegorz Proksa
• Makoto Fuchigami
• Lajuan Simon
• Kassim Ouma
• Kell Brook
• Vanes Martirosyan
• Nilson Julio Tapia
• Milton Nunez

Nearly every single one of these guys were not considered top-ten middleweights (based on ESPN’s and The RING’s divisional rankings) prior to their bouts against Gennady Golovkin and the vast majority of them were former welterweights/light middleweights, but I strongly suspect that somebody from this forum will attempt to rewrite history by aggressively and obscenely arguing otherwise!

Alternatively, they’ll review this list of fifteen fighters and do their upmost to cite a slight error or typo as evidence to dishonestly “prove” that everything else I’ve written is “utter nonsense.”

Don’t get me wrong, I’m a huge fan of GGG, but regardless the reasons, his resume and accomplishments at 160lbs are nowhere near as impressive as the feats achieved by Hopkins, yet it seems that my beliefs in regards to this matter are almost certainly in the minority!

[jamamb]

[adislav123]

Of course he has primarily handpicked title-defenses on his record but he blew them all out of the ring in highly impressive (watch the fornicating fights) CLEAR fashion (he practically knocked them all out!

Except the jacobs fight he didn't leave any room for even starting a discussion.

I'm not even starting to separate between "legit" middleweights, superwelters, beefed up welters, stepped down "normally" lsupermiddles or even drained light-heavies competeing at middleweight, fornicate that, it is what it is: competeing as middleweight!that's conditioning your body to meet the weight your fighting at, that's boxing!

GGG also beat canelo clearly (if you have functioning eyes in your not biased head).

The records of the likes of abraham(wtf! watch his last intercontinental-wb...whatever fight against nielsen, he didn't win one round and got the decision! nevertheless he was exciting to watch against mediocre opposition during his middle-reign) sturm (after he got robbed himself against de la hoya)are filled with highly controversial shit home-decisions and plain robberies! Sauerland! Germany! 90's 00's! Shit! The WORST!

Taylor, Martinez, Hopkins (of course a legit legend)

Not even trying to rank them on achivements since 2000, ALL top-middleweight champs in their own right, but golovkin wouldn't have had a problem beating them clearly, that's why he's the best middleweight since turn of the century!

Shit! I've got to convey my thoughts better!

[keirw]

Not sure how you could have Hopkins above Taylor when Taylor beat Hopkins twice.

Bernard “The Executioner” Hopkins successfully competed in 21 middleweight world title fights between 1994 & 2004 and had defeated the following world champions:

• Oscar De La Hoya
• William Joppy
• Carl Daniels
• Felix Trinidad
• Keith Holmes
• Simon Brown
• Glen Johnson
• John David Jackson

Bernard, a relative novice, had also previously fought and lost the great Roy Jones Jr. in 1993, which was his very first world title fight and he was fairly competitive in that bout. This was a defeat that he eventually avenged.

Hopkins faced John David Jackson at a catch-weight, weighing only 156½lbs. Bernard also agreed to compete against De La Hoya at a catch-weight, weighing 156lbs.

Bernard Hopkins was also the very first fighter to ever unify all four main versions of the world middleweight title.

In stark contrast, Jermain Taylor defeated a version of Hopkins that was in his forties and who’s body had outgrown the middleweight division.

And let’s not forget that both of Taylor’s victories over the aging Hopkins were razor thin, with some journalists disputing the official verdicts of the judges.

The next three opponents Taylor faced during the course of his title defences weren’t legitimate middleweights (i.e. Ronald 'Winky' Wright, Kassim Ouma and Cory Spinks) and he only managed to beat two of them.

Jermaine Taylor then lost his belts when he was destroyed within seven rounds by Kelly Pavlik. However, he did manage to regain one of the middleweight titles he previously owned, five years later, when he outpointed the 41 year old veteran Sam Soliman.

You make a fair (if somewhat long-winded) point

[Enlightened-One]

poo! I've got to convey my thoughts better!

I’m not necessarily disagreeing with anything you’ve written, but this is how your words come across to me.

[Ruthless-RKO]

Hopkins: Mentioning 'Caveman' GGG With Hagler Disrespectful

Where Hopkins draws the proverbial line is when he hears or reads about anyone mentioning Golovkin in the same sentence as Marvin Hagler.

Hopkins’ opinion reflects conventional wisdom, that Hagler is one of the absolute best middleweights in boxing history. He’s not sure if Golovkin even cracks his top 20 historically within the 160-pound division.

“Don’t never mention Marvin Hagler and Triple-G in the same breath,” Hopkins told BS.com. “It’s disrespectful to Marvin Hagler.”

Hopkins refrained from flat-out saying Golovkin’s championship reign isn’t as authentic as his, yet emphasized that Golovkin isn’t nearly as good as the revered Hagler.

“That must be them millennials saying that,” Hopkins told BS.com, “because nobody in they right mind – now there’s one thing promoting boxing and promoting the middleweight division, and you can exaggerate a little bit and have some fun. I understand this is a fun time and some conversations that you have, this is what’s called fun. When you say certain things, when you talk about Marvin Hagler and Triple-G, it’s disrespectful to Marvin Hagler.

“When you start talking about is ‘Caveman’ Triple-G and Marvin Hagler in the same voice, it’s disrespectful to Marvin Hagler. It’s not even hype. It comes a point when certain things are just disrespectful. … We’re all having fun. But I know when to not have fun. I know when to cut the fun sh*t out.”

[jamamb]

its not disrespectful to compare, because when comparing you can still reach the logical conclusion that hagler was waaaay more accomplished and better then ggg

now if your saying ggg is on haglers level in achievment or ability, then thats downright stupid

[DrDuke]

Hopkins: Mentioning 'Caveman' GGG With Hagler Disrespectful

Yeah... Just a little bit more disrespectful, than mentioning Hopkins himself with Hagler.

[Ruthless-RKO]

Hopkins: Mentioning 'Caveman' GGG With Hagler Disrespectful

Yeah... Just a little bit more disrespectful, than mentioning Hopkins himself with Hagler.

Hopkin's thinks he's some sort of Boxing God.