Jaime Munguia vs Brandon Cook

[jamamb]

21.5 pounds is seriously a sh!tload for a jmw to put back on, could mung be the biggest drainer in boxing at the moment?

[Datsue]

Shame about the dog... Have one myself but he is a pain in the a $$.

What's are the solutions? Same day weigh ins? Can't weigh x% more come fight night?

Thank you mate.

RE: the weigh-ins... It's not going to be the most popular opinion ever evinced, but I'm for same day weigh-ins, purely on the principle that if you're going to fvck yourself up trying for an unfair advantage & you get hurt, that's one thing, but doing it to someone else—& having a system in place that tacitly enables this, as we do now—is IMO unconscionable.

But I don't expect anyone else to agree with that.

[Datsue]

Mungs won't look all that once he starts fighting guys his own size.

Yup. Be a fair few years yet, though I reckon.

The thing is, he might be the next Alvarez or he might be the next JCC Jr, it's just impossible to tell, & a load of fellas are going to cop hidings in 70/30 fights until then.

[Ezzard]

I first really noticed this with DLH. Started his career beating up smaller men. Perfected his craft in championship fights where the dice were loaded. Then most of the top prospects are brought through this way: Mayweather, Alvarez, Khan, Crawford. Makes it hard for me to really get behind these fighters.

I like your rationale for same day weigh-ins.

[jamamb]

de la hoya has been doing that with his favourite prospect ryan garcia too, although they diid finally put him vs a decent career lightweight last time instead of a guy coming up or whod mainly fought below, and of course garcia only managed an md where he got rocked, after a big run of kos vs smaller guys. im guessing they might go back to little guys for a bit...

[jlh]

Shame about the dog... Have one myself but he is a pain in the a $$.

What's are the solutions? Same day weigh ins? Can't weigh x% more come fight night?

Thank you mate.

RE: the weigh-ins... It's not going to be the most popular opinion ever evinced, but I'm for same day weigh-ins, purely on the principle that if you're going to fvck yourself up trying for an unfair advantage & you get hurt, that's one thing, but doing it to someone else—& having a system in place that tacitly enables this, as we do now—is IMO unconscionable.

But I don't expect anyone else to agree with that.

How much could someone like Mung put on in a day though? Could have the same issue but with with the above dangers.

[Ricky]

Shame about the dog... Have one myself but he is a pain in the a $$.

What's are the solutions? Same day weigh ins? Can't weigh x% more come fight night?

Thank you mate.

RE: the weigh-ins... It's not going to be the most popular opinion ever evinced, but I'm for same day weigh-ins, purely on the principle that if you're going to fvck yourself up trying for an unfair advantage & you get hurt, that's one thing, but doing it to someone else—& having a system in place that tacitly enables this, as we do now—is IMO unconscionable.

But I don't expect anyone else to agree with that.

How much could someone like Mung put on in a day though? Could have the same issue but with with the above dangers.

The danger with same day weigh-ins would probably affect the B-side journeymen taking fights at short notice more than anyone. These guys will inevitably fight dehydrated to put food on the table. The hiding they take can easily be fatal with a shrunken, dehydrated brain.

[SenorPipino]

I don't know.

I just go by what fighters weigh in at. Munguia isn't weighing 175. Just 154.

If guys like him and Hurd look huge, it's just their bone structure. The weight is the same as all the other super welters.

I watched some You Tube video of Munguia a few years back when still a teen.

Very tall but thin as a rail. He was a welter. He didn't dwarf his opponents back then.

But Munguia is a young kid. He's growing fast and still filling out. He'll probably be a middleweight before 2020. But he's no light heavy.

The even bigger Chavez Jr. learned he was no light heavy when he was steamrolled by Fonfara.

Looks can be an illusion.

Chavez Jr weighed 181 on the "unofficial" scale the night he beat Rubio, which I believe is the night his corner stopped allowing him to be weighed 'cos people started to notice. If you think there's anything "natural" about regaining 21 1bs overnight I don't know what to say.

He had previous for using a PED that acts as a massive diuretic (in fact, they give it to racehorses for that reason—to flush out the steroids, in that case). When he fought at light-heavy he looked exactly the same size in the ring as he did when he fought at middle... 'cos he probably was, his kidneys etc just couldn't take the effort of shifting & regaining 20lbs plus of water any longer. He was always a light-heavy, he just got to fight vs. middleweights for a long while.

If you think Munguia & Cook weighed the same the other night I have a bridge to sell you.

All I care about is what the fighters weigh at the official weigh-in.

Munguia and Cook both weighed in Friday as super welterweights.

Was there some sort of agreement that either fighter couldn't rehydrate above a certain weight?

If there wasn't, then I could not care less if Munguia entered the ring weighing 200.

It's his option.

When did boxing fans start worrying and fretting so much about what fighters weigh some 30 hours after the official weigh-in?

If it's such a big deal, hold the weigh-ins 3 hours before the fight.

But since the fighters aren't bitching about it, I don't know why some fans are uptight about it and connecting it to some wild conspiracies.

[Matt W]