Fresh off his first official defeat of his professional career, questions surround the former middleweight champion Gennady “Triple G” Golovkin 38-1-1 (34 KO’s).
Questions regarding his next move, which direction his career carries into the future, questions pertaining to the very fabric and foundation for his career. This past fight for instance, why he was pushed back by the smaller man?
Succumbing to defeat via the hands of Saul “Canelo” Alvarez 50-1-2 (34 KO’s) sets an astonishing precedent, but not for the fact Golovkin suffered defeat to an elite fighter. It’s the fashion of how defeat manifested.
The fact the smaller man originally beginning his career at junior welterweight (140lbs.), walked down and stalked the career long middleweight is a bold statement. Future Hall of Fame fighter and ESPN boxing analyst Andre Ward expands on this notion.
Leading up to the rematch, Golovkin and head trainer Abel Sanchez asked, begged, pleaded for Alvarez to stand and fight, to not utilize lateral movement in the rematch, to give the fans an action-packed show, thus providing Golovkin with greater opportunity to sink his powerful punches in hopes of bashing the Mexican star.
Team Golovkin trashed Alvarez leading up to the rematch. Some of their ire (rightfully so) drew from the failed drug tests from the banned substance clenbuterol and the other part of their frustration stemmed from the results and how the first fight transpired.
However, Golovkin and Sanchez got what they asked for, Canelo took the fight to Triple G, walking him down, pushing the bigger fight back, controlling the story of the fight, as Ward eloquently stated to Stephen A. Smith during their brief debate regarding the results of the rematch between Golovkin and Alvarez.
The wounds are still fresh, it’s natural for one to be a prisoner of the moment and to make declarations and assessments to what was just witnessed.
Ultimately as time passes, data continues to collect, the tea leaves assemble and we’ll be able to make a full assessment of the career of Gennady Golovkin.
His name will forever be linked with Alvarez and as it stands now, he is on the wrong side of history.
The tweet from podcaster and editor @LukieBoxing is a fair statement about Golovkin’s career.
Digesting that statement, where is Golovkin’s signature victory against the A-side opponent? Which win was his signature win if he has one? Who is it against? Was his signature win against Daniel Jacobs, another close, disputed fight? Or is it against David Lemieux? Or perhaps his signature win was against the undefeated Kell Brook, the natural welterweight moving up two weight classes.
Addressing the issue of unification of the world titles, Golovkin spent his entire professional career at middleweight and entering the rematch with Alvarez was a world champion since 2010.
You would think somewhere throughout that long reign, unification of the division would have transpired right?
Sanctioning bodies play a role, same with promoters, promotional companies and networks. These components play part and such is the dynamic of boxing from the business perspective.
Even still, if going off the words and merits of Golovkin’s trainer Abel Sanchez or promoter Tom Loefller, the past four years or so Golovkin has been the A-side – meaning headliner of boxing, thus other fighters should want to fight him due to his stature in boxing and earning potential.
But both Sanchez and Loefller were also quoted stating no one wants to fight Golovkin because they are afraid to get knocked out.
The statements contradict each other and its perplexing trying to determine the purpose and angle for how they addressed Golovkin’s lack of great opposition and failure to unify the division.
Even Golovkin doesn’t think fighters are necessarily afraid to fight him.
As far as the fear factor his handlers attempted to plant into the minds of the public, sometimes it went as far as exposing gym wars and sparring stories – even at the expense of others. Golovkin’s sparring with Sergey Kovalev is part of the legend.
In an interview with HustleBoss, Abel Sanchez said, “He [Kovalev] was one of the sparring partners that we had. He was with me for about a year and a half.”
“Really Kovalev was afraid of Golovkin when he was in the ring. I couldn’t spar him too much because he showed too much respect for Golovkin. He just fell apart in there with Golovkin.”
For years Triple G was perceived by media and fans alike as some mythological boogeyman due to false narrative initiating with Triple G’s trainer and promoter, to be echoed by networks like HBO, ESPN and repeated by other writers and reporters throughout the media.
But for some reason, Golovkin never unified the division. The last great middleweight Golovkin is compared to actually unified the division during his reign at middleweight. That person is Bernard Hopkins.
Jermain Taylor acquired all the world titles at middleweight by virtue of defeating Hopkins.
By comparison, current WBO welterweight champion Terence Crawford acquired all junior welterweight titles, unifying the division in two years’ time, while the current undisputed, unified cruiserweight champion Oleksandr Usyk, captured every world title in his division under less than five years’ time.
Boxing history shows, if a truly great champion cannot unify the division and this can be virtue by a variety of circumstances, that great champion moves up in weight class, seeking greater and often times more luxurious challenges.
Manny Pacquiao is a prime example. Sugar Ray Leonard, Roberto Duran, Floyd Mayweather, Miguel Cotto, Sergio Martinez, Vasyl Lomachenko, etc.
The indication is if Golovkin experienced difficulty securing bouts against other elite fighters in his weight class, or experienced securing bouts against the champions holding the other titles, the logical move is forcing that belt holder to vacate or to move up in weight and seek other challenges.
But that wasn’t the path for Golovkin.
There is nothing wrong with his path, he has every right to handle his career, finances, whatever he wants how he sees fit. But when comparing him to other great all-time fighters or even his contemporaries and great fighters for this era, he falls short.
And now, the same people suggesting Golovkin is an all-time great, legendary, unstoppable fighter are the same ones dismissing his greatness in light of his recent defeat. Remember, HBO analyst Jim Lampley openly stated Golovkin’s career is a failure if he fails to defeat Alvarez. Lampley was the conductor on the Triple G train.
“He’s trying to make a statement [Saturday] night to say that he’s the greatest middleweight of all time,” Lampley said about Golovkin leading up to the rematch.
“But if he loses the fight, his entire career was a failure,” Lampley continues. “If he loses this fight, he’s not just losing to Canelo. He’s losing to the six years he spent in Europe at the beginning of his professional career, chasing a title held by Felix Sturm, for which he was never going to get a chance to compete [to win].”
“He’s losing to a decision he made about how to construct his career, that basically put him in limbo for six years and ultimately brought him to the United States as something of an underground legend. What would Triple-G be if he had come straight from his loss in Athens at the end of the Olympics in 2004 to the United States? Could’ve been an entirely different story. Could’ve been a much, much bigger star. Could’ve had a larger imprint on the history of boxing.”
For history to reserve a fonder memory of Golovkin he needs drastic wins against higher level opponents but at 36-years-old, sand falls faster in the hourglass and with it opportunities shrink.
There was a lapse of talent in the middleweight division for most of the decade, only recently experiencing a resurgence of talent with the emergence of Daniel Jacobs, Billie Joe Saunders, Jermall Charlo, Saul Alvarez, Sergiy Derevyanchenko and Demetrius Andrade.
Can Golovkin beat Alvarez in a third fight? It’s possible, it’s not like he wasn’t competitive – it was a close fight. Same applies for Golovkin’s chances against Jacobs as he defeated in the past. How does Golovkin fare against the other fighters mentioned?
Will Golovkin challenge the other middleweights or will he emulate Hopkins, ascending to the higher weight divisions, facing new challenges as the previous middleweight king before him did?
Or is he on his way towards retirement, seeking another large payday or two, aiming for further financial security?
If the latter option is the answer, securing one or two more fights with Canelo is should be the objective for Triple G. Whether it comes to fruition is another story.
For Golovkin, the context of the comparisons will dictate how he’s remembered.
World class trainer and boxing analyst Teddy Atlas implies, was Golovkin overrated; a talented fighter with good skills but with glaring weaknesses never exposed in the ring because of favorable match-ups against weaker opposition and media hype.
Which begs the question, how will we remember Gennady Golovkin?
depends, he might just be one of those guys people remain delusional about. even now you have so many people saying he didnt really lose etc
reminds me of when people say vitali never really lost to lewis, and despite not ever really beating that good of opponents, never unifying, losing vs his 1 elite top flught opponent etc, vitali is still very highly regarded and was first ballot hof
personally ive never been awed by ggg or his resume and i easily saw this l coming, but feel like ppl might get delusions about it
Delusional about what? Look at all the press scorecards, the poll on here. The majority of people thought Golovkin won. The only people delusional are the ones saying Canelo won that bout if anyone is delusional.
No, this really does hamper Golovkin's legacy, though. He's failed to put a stamp on his biggest win twice now.
GGG, even if he had been awarded both Canelo victories that I believe that he deserved, is not a top shelf MW historically. He is just below top shelf.
GGG has always been slow, vulnerable to the body, and less than excellent when pressured. He was just never faced with top level comp that could exploit that until Canelo. GGG fanboys can now point to his age as a rational for his less than stellar performances vs Jacobs and Canelo, but it really comes down to level of competition.
Many have claimed that he could have moved up and ruled 168. Clearly, given his performances over the last year and a half, he would be in deep water with the top level big pressure SMWs. He would have certainly ruled the journeymen at that level though.
It is still unfortunate that he did not get a W a year ago and at least a draw on Saturday. He deserved it and we would likely have seen him in another big fight to cement his legacy.
Now, it is likely that his level has been established as a very good but not great MW, historically; along the lines of Sergio Martinez, who fought similar level competition.
i dunno, i think ggg fanboys have a totally different mindset and there are so many outhere. and they say ggg was robbed and past his prime so that wasnt the 'real' him
look at all the ppl who scored both fights for ggg. his reputation will depend on how many of these types stay huggers. seems a lot are just calling robbery instead of fully deserting him
ggg. he smashed through b level opposition in tyson esque style.
when confronted by 'a' class fighters in his mid 30's he held his own in close, debatable fights.
i dont think you can hold too much against a close draw, or debatable loss. hagler lost to leonard in a debatable one.
as a previous poster said, ggg is not quite on the top level of atg middleweights, but just under.
all that could enhance his legacy at this point would be kos over canelo and jacobs, and thats a very big ask.
jamamb wrote: ↑17 Sep 2018, 12:45
i dunno, i think ggg fanboys have a totally different mindset and there are so many outhere. and they say ggg was robbed and past his prime so that wasnt the 'real' him
look at all the ppl who scored both fights for ggg. his reputation will depend on how many of these types stay huggers. seems a lot are just calling robbery instead of fully deserting him
It’s perfectly legitimate for fans to score both fights for Golovkin, as evidenced by the vast majority of experts/media who did the same.
ironbeard wrote: ↑17 Sep 2018, 12:40
GGG, even if he had been awarded both Canelo victories that I believe that he deserved, is not a top shelf MW historically. He is just below top shelf.
GGG has always been slow, vulnerable to the body, and less than excellent when pressured. He was just never faced with top level comp that could exploit that until Canelo. GGG fanboys can now point to his age as a rational for his less than stellar performances vs Jacobs and Canelo, but it really comes down to level of competition.
Many have claimed that he could have moved up and ruled 168. Clearly, given his performances over the last year and a half, he would be in deep water with the top level big pressure SMWs. He would have certainly ruled the journeymen at that level though.
It is still unfortunate that he did not get a W a year ago and at least a draw on Saturday. He deserved it and we would likely have seen him in another big fight to cement his legacy.
Now, it is likely that his level has been established as a very good but not great MW, historically; along the lines of Sergio Martinez, who fought similar level competition.
Fresh off his first official defeat of his professional career, questions surround the former middleweight champion Gennady “Triple G” Golovkin 38-1-1 (34 KO’s).
Questions regarding his next move, which direction his career carries into the future, questions pertaining to the very fabric and foundation for his career. This past fight for instance, why he was pushed back by the smaller man?
Succumbing to defeat via the hands of Saul “Canelo” Alvarez 50-1-2 (34 KO’s) sets an astonishing precedent, but not for the fact Golovkin suffered defeat to an elite fighter. It’s the fashion of how defeat manifested.
The fact the smaller man originally beginning his career at junior welterweight (140lbs.), walked down and stalked the career long middleweight is a bold statement. Future Hall of Fame fighter and ESPN boxing analyst Andre Ward expands on this notion.
Leading up to the rematch, Golovkin and head trainer Abel Sanchez asked, begged, pleaded for Alvarez to stand and fight, to not utilize lateral movement in the rematch, to give the fans an action-packed show, thus providing Golovkin with greater opportunity to sink his powerful punches in hopes of bashing the Mexican star.
Team Golovkin trashed Alvarez leading up to the rematch. Some of their ire (rightfully so) drew from the failed drug tests from the banned substance clenbuterol and the other part of their frustration stemmed from the results and how the first fight transpired.
However, Golovkin and Sanchez got what they asked for, Canelo took the fight to Triple G, walking him down, pushing the bigger fight back, controlling the story of the fight, as Ward eloquently stated to Stephen A. Smith during their brief debate regarding the results of the rematch between Golovkin and Alvarez.
The wounds are still fresh, it’s natural for one to be a prisoner of the moment and to make declarations and assessments to what was just witnessed.
Ultimately as time passes, data continues to collect, the tea leaves assemble and we’ll be able to make a full assessment of the career of Gennady Golovkin.
His name will forever be linked with Alvarez and as it stands now, he is on the wrong side of history.
The tweet from podcaster and editor @LukieBoxing is a fair statement about Golovkin’s career.
Digesting that statement, where is Golovkin’s signature victory against the A-side opponent? Which win was his signature win if he has one? Who is it against? Was his signature win against Daniel Jacobs, another close, disputed fight? Or is it against David Lemieux? Or perhaps his signature win was against the undefeated Kell Brook, the natural welterweight moving up two weight classes.
Addressing the issue of unification of the world titles, Golovkin spent his entire professional career at middleweight and entering the rematch with Alvarez was a world champion since 2010.
You would think somewhere throughout that long reign, unification of the division would have transpired right?
Sanctioning bodies play a role, same with promoters, promotional companies and networks. These components play part and such is the dynamic of boxing from the business perspective.
Even still, if going off the words and merits of Golovkin’s trainer Abel Sanchez or promoter Tom Loefller, the past four years or so Golovkin has been the A-side – meaning headliner of boxing, thus other fighters should want to fight him due to his stature in boxing and earning potential.
But both Sanchez and Loefller were also quoted stating no one wants to fight Golovkin because they are afraid to get knocked out.
The statements contradict each other and its perplexing trying to determine the purpose and angle for how they addressed Golovkin’s lack of great opposition and failure to unify the division.
Even Golovkin doesn’t think fighters are necessarily afraid to fight him.
As far as the fear factor his handlers attempted to plant into the minds of the public, sometimes it went as far as exposing gym wars and sparring stories – even at the expense of others. Golovkin’s sparring with Sergey Kovalev is part of the legend.
In an interview with HustleBoss, Abel Sanchez said, “He [Kovalev] was one of the sparring partners that we had. He was with me for about a year and a half.”
“Really Kovalev was afraid of Golovkin when he was in the ring. I couldn’t spar him too much because he showed too much respect for Golovkin. He just fell apart in there with Golovkin.”
For years Triple G was perceived by media and fans alike as some mythological boogeyman due to false narrative initiating with Triple G’s trainer and promoter, to be echoed by networks like HBO, ESPN and repeated by other writers and reporters throughout the media.
But for some reason, Golovkin never unified the division. The last great middleweight Golovkin is compared to actually unified the division during his reign at middleweight. That person is Bernard Hopkins.
Jermain Taylor acquired all the world titles at middleweight by virtue of defeating Hopkins.
By comparison, current WBO welterweight champion Terence Crawford acquired all junior welterweight titles, unifying the division in two years’ time, while the current undisputed, unified cruiserweight champion Oleksandr Usyk, captured every world title in his division under less than five years’ time.
Boxing history shows, if a truly great champion cannot unify the division and this can be virtue by a variety of circumstances, that great champion moves up in weight class, seeking greater and often times more luxurious challenges.
Manny Pacquiao is a prime example. Sugar Ray Leonard, Roberto Duran, Floyd Mayweather, Miguel Cotto, Sergio Martinez, Vasyl Lomachenko, etc.
The indication is if Golovkin experienced difficulty securing bouts against other elite fighters in his weight class, or experienced securing bouts against the champions holding the other titles, the logical move is forcing that belt holder to vacate or to move up in weight and seek other challenges.
But that wasn’t the path for Golovkin.
There is nothing wrong with his path, he has every right to handle his career, finances, whatever he wants how he sees fit. But when comparing him to other great all-time fighters or even his contemporaries and great fighters for this era, he falls short.
And now, the same people suggesting Golovkin is an all-time great, legendary, unstoppable fighter are the same ones dismissing his greatness in light of his recent defeat. Remember, HBO analyst Jim Lampley openly stated Golovkin’s career is a failure if he fails to defeat Alvarez. Lampley was the conductor on the Triple G train.
“He’s trying to make a statement [Saturday] night to say that he’s the greatest middleweight of all time,” Lampley said about Golovkin leading up to the rematch.
“But if he loses the fight, his entire career was a failure,” Lampley continues. “If he loses this fight, he’s not just losing to Canelo. He’s losing to the six years he spent in Europe at the beginning of his professional career, chasing a title held by Felix Sturm, for which he was never going to get a chance to compete [to win].”
“He’s losing to a decision he made about how to construct his career, that basically put him in limbo for six years and ultimately brought him to the United States as something of an underground legend. What would Triple-G be if he had come straight from his loss in Athens at the end of the Olympics in 2004 to the United States? Could’ve been an entirely different story. Could’ve been a much, much bigger star. Could’ve had a larger imprint on the history of boxing.”
For history to reserve a fonder memory of Golovkin he needs drastic wins against higher level opponents but at 36-years-old, sand falls faster in the hourglass and with it opportunities shrink.
There was a lapse of talent in the middleweight division for most of the decade, only recently experiencing a resurgence of talent with the emergence of Daniel Jacobs, Billie Joe Saunders, Jermall Charlo, Saul Alvarez, Sergiy Derevyanchenko and Demetrius Andrade.
Can Golovkin beat Alvarez in a third fight? It’s possible, it’s not like he wasn’t competitive – it was a close fight. Same applies for Golovkin’s chances against Jacobs as he defeated in the past. How does Golovkin fare against the other fighters mentioned?
Will Golovkin challenge the other middleweights or will he emulate Hopkins, ascending to the higher weight divisions, facing new challenges as the previous middleweight king before him did?
Or is he on his way towards retirement, seeking another large payday or two, aiming for further financial security?
If the latter option is the answer, securing one or two more fights with Canelo is should be the objective for Triple G. Whether it comes to fruition is another story.
For Golovkin, the context of the comparisons will dictate how he’s remembered.
World class trainer and boxing analyst Teddy Atlas implies, was Golovkin overrated; a talented fighter with good skills but with glaring weaknesses never exposed in the ring because of favorable match-ups against weaker opposition and media hype.
Which begs the question, how will we remember Gennady Golovkin?
Thoughts?
Lukie Boxing says GGG never won a fight against an A side? Neither has Canelo. The only argument is Cotto who was on the same level of popularity with Canelo at the time and who Canelo was favored to beat. The only time Canelo fought an "A-side" which was Floyd he lost. All of his wins, he was the A-side.
And Teddy is a bad example because he says that GGG was robbed.
The fact the smaller man originally beginning his career at junior welterweight (140lbs.), walked down and stalked the career long middleweight is a bold statement.
This must be one of the least educated, idiotic statements ever!
Yes, Canelo has fought as a smaller, lighter PROFESSIONAL boxer than Golovkin.... ...but that proves nothing.
Canelo was 15! years old when he turned pro. Last time he even made welterweight was at the age of 19 years 8 months in a fight vs Brian Camechis.
Golovkin turned pro as a fully-grown adult man at the age of 24 years 1 months (btw, at that age Alvarez fought Erislandy Lara). Yes, he was a middleweight by then (albeit likely a one able to make 154 if asked for...)
However, at a comparable age he had participated in 2000 World Junior Championships and won a gold medal in LIGHT WELTERWEIGHT division! That was in November 2000 so Golovkin was 18 yrs 18 months old by the time. Alvarez last fought as a light welter at the time of his 16th birthday!
So, actually Canelo did outgrow 140 lbs (or 63,5 kgs) almost 3 years younger teenager than Golovkin eventually did.... ...who exactly was the naturally smaller man???
Fresh off his first official defeat of his professional career, questions surround the former middleweight champion Gennady “Triple G” Golovkin 38-1-1 (34 KO’s).
Questions regarding his next move, which direction his career carries into the future, questions pertaining to the very fabric and foundation for his career. This past fight for instance, why he was pushed back by the smaller man?
Succumbing to defeat via the hands of Saul “Canelo” Alvarez 50-1-2 (34 KO’s) sets an astonishing precedent, but not for the fact Golovkin suffered defeat to an elite fighter. It’s the fashion of how defeat manifested.
The fact the smaller man originally beginning his career at junior welterweight (140lbs.), walked down and stalked the career long middleweight is a bold statement. Future Hall of Fame fighter and ESPN boxing analyst Andre Ward expands on this notion.
Leading up to the rematch, Golovkin and head trainer Abel Sanchez asked, begged, pleaded for Alvarez to stand and fight, to not utilize lateral movement in the rematch, to give the fans an action-packed show, thus providing Golovkin with greater opportunity to sink his powerful punches in hopes of bashing the Mexican star.
Team Golovkin trashed Alvarez leading up to the rematch. Some of their ire (rightfully so) drew from the failed drug tests from the banned substance clenbuterol and the other part of their frustration stemmed from the results and how the first fight transpired.
However, Golovkin and Sanchez got what they asked for, Canelo took the fight to Triple G, walking him down, pushing the bigger fight back, controlling the story of the fight, as Ward eloquently stated to Stephen A. Smith during their brief debate regarding the results of the rematch between Golovkin and Alvarez.
The wounds are still fresh, it’s natural for one to be a prisoner of the moment and to make declarations and assessments to what was just witnessed.
Ultimately as time passes, data continues to collect, the tea leaves assemble and we’ll be able to make a full assessment of the career of Gennady Golovkin.
His name will forever be linked with Alvarez and as it stands now, he is on the wrong side of history.
The tweet from podcaster and editor @LukieBoxing is a fair statement about Golovkin’s career.
Digesting that statement, where is Golovkin’s signature victory against the A-side opponent? Which win was his signature win if he has one? Who is it against? Was his signature win against Daniel Jacobs, another close, disputed fight? Or is it against David Lemieux? Or perhaps his signature win was against the undefeated Kell Brook, the natural welterweight moving up two weight classes.
Addressing the issue of unification of the world titles, Golovkin spent his entire professional career at middleweight and entering the rematch with Alvarez was a world champion since 2010.
You would think somewhere throughout that long reign, unification of the division would have transpired right?
Sanctioning bodies play a role, same with promoters, promotional companies and networks. These components play part and such is the dynamic of boxing from the business perspective.
Even still, if going off the words and merits of Golovkin’s trainer Abel Sanchez or promoter Tom Loefller, the past four years or so Golovkin has been the A-side – meaning headliner of boxing, thus other fighters should want to fight him due to his stature in boxing and earning potential.
But both Sanchez and Loefller were also quoted stating no one wants to fight Golovkin because they are afraid to get knocked out.
The statements contradict each other and its perplexing trying to determine the purpose and angle for how they addressed Golovkin’s lack of great opposition and failure to unify the division.
Even Golovkin doesn’t think fighters are necessarily afraid to fight him.
As far as the fear factor his handlers attempted to plant into the minds of the public, sometimes it went as far as exposing gym wars and sparring stories – even at the expense of others. Golovkin’s sparring with Sergey Kovalev is part of the legend.
In an interview with HustleBoss, Abel Sanchez said, “He [Kovalev] was one of the sparring partners that we had. He was with me for about a year and a half.”
“Really Kovalev was afraid of Golovkin when he was in the ring. I couldn’t spar him too much because he showed too much respect for Golovkin. He just fell apart in there with Golovkin.”
For years Triple G was perceived by media and fans alike as some mythological boogeyman due to false narrative initiating with Triple G’s trainer and promoter, to be echoed by networks like HBO, ESPN and repeated by other writers and reporters throughout the media.
But for some reason, Golovkin never unified the division. The last great middleweight Golovkin is compared to actually unified the division during his reign at middleweight. That person is Bernard Hopkins.
Jermain Taylor acquired all the world titles at middleweight by virtue of defeating Hopkins.
By comparison, current WBO welterweight champion Terence Crawford acquired all junior welterweight titles, unifying the division in two years’ time, while the current undisputed, unified cruiserweight champion Oleksandr Usyk, captured every world title in his division under less than five years’ time.
Boxing history shows, if a truly great champion cannot unify the division and this can be virtue by a variety of circumstances, that great champion moves up in weight class, seeking greater and often times more luxurious challenges.
Manny Pacquiao is a prime example. Sugar Ray Leonard, Roberto Duran, Floyd Mayweather, Miguel Cotto, Sergio Martinez, Vasyl Lomachenko, etc.
The indication is if Golovkin experienced difficulty securing bouts against other elite fighters in his weight class, or experienced securing bouts against the champions holding the other titles, the logical move is forcing that belt holder to vacate or to move up in weight and seek other challenges.
But that wasn’t the path for Golovkin.
There is nothing wrong with his path, he has every right to handle his career, finances, whatever he wants how he sees fit. But when comparing him to other great all-time fighters or even his contemporaries and great fighters for this era, he falls short.
And now, the same people suggesting Golovkin is an all-time great, legendary, unstoppable fighter are the same ones dismissing his greatness in light of his recent defeat. Remember, HBO analyst Jim Lampley openly stated Golovkin’s career is a failure if he fails to defeat Alvarez. Lampley was the conductor on the Triple G train.
“He’s trying to make a statement [Saturday] night to say that he’s the greatest middleweight of all time,” Lampley said about Golovkin leading up to the rematch.
“But if he loses the fight, his entire career was a failure,” Lampley continues. “If he loses this fight, he’s not just losing to Canelo. He’s losing to the six years he spent in Europe at the beginning of his professional career, chasing a title held by Felix Sturm, for which he was never going to get a chance to compete [to win].”
“He’s losing to a decision he made about how to construct his career, that basically put him in limbo for six years and ultimately brought him to the United States as something of an underground legend. What would Triple-G be if he had come straight from his loss in Athens at the end of the Olympics in 2004 to the United States? Could’ve been an entirely different story. Could’ve been a much, much bigger star. Could’ve had a larger imprint on the history of boxing.”
For history to reserve a fonder memory of Golovkin he needs drastic wins against higher level opponents but at 36-years-old, sand falls faster in the hourglass and with it opportunities shrink.
There was a lapse of talent in the middleweight division for most of the decade, only recently experiencing a resurgence of talent with the emergence of Daniel Jacobs, Billie Joe Saunders, Jermall Charlo, Saul Alvarez, Sergiy Derevyanchenko and Demetrius Andrade.
Can Golovkin beat Alvarez in a third fight? It’s possible, it’s not like he wasn’t competitive – it was a close fight. Same applies for Golovkin’s chances against Jacobs as he defeated in the past. How does Golovkin fare against the other fighters mentioned?
Will Golovkin challenge the other middleweights or will he emulate Hopkins, ascending to the higher weight divisions, facing new challenges as the previous middleweight king before him did?
Or is he on his way towards retirement, seeking another large payday or two, aiming for further financial security?
If the latter option is the answer, securing one or two more fights with Canelo is should be the objective for Triple G. Whether it comes to fruition is another story.
For Golovkin, the context of the comparisons will dictate how he’s remembered.
World class trainer and boxing analyst Teddy Atlas implies, was Golovkin overrated; a talented fighter with good skills but with glaring weaknesses never exposed in the ring because of favorable match-ups against weaker opposition and media hype.
Which begs the question, how will we remember Gennady Golovkin?
Thoughts?
My opinion is that it is better to be remembered as the one who got robbed in Vegas then as the one who ate the mexican beef
If his career ends now, he'll probably be remembered as a great knockout artist, but will he be remembered as a great fighter? He had a lot of iconic knockouts, but he lacks great fights, which he won. Anyway for the moment he's in top 20 MW of all time, I'd say, arguably in top 10. His career isn't over though, while he looks credible and even more, than that.
I will remember Gennady Golovkin as the best MW of his era and a very entertaining fighter. Also, i will remember him as undefeated. great jab, power and fantastic chin.
Petu v.d. Pajm wrote: ↑17 Sep 2018, 13:41The fact the smaller man originally beginning his career at junior welterweight (140lbs.), walked down and stalked the career long middleweight is a bold statement.
This must be one of the least educated, idiotic statements ever!
Yes, Canelo has fought as a smaller, lighter PROFESSIONAL boxer than Golovkin.... ...but that proves nothing.
Canelo was 15! years old when he turned pro. Last time he even made welterweight was at the age of 19 years 8 months in a fight vs Brian Camechis.
Golovkin turned pro as a fully-grown adult man at the age of 24 years 1 months (btw, at that age Alvarez fought Erislandy Lara). Yes, he was a middleweight by then (albeit likely a one able to make 154 if asked for...)
However, at a comparable age he had participated in 2000 World Junior Championships and won a gold medal in LIGHT WELTERWEIGHT division! That was in November 2000 so Golovkin was 18 yrs 18 months old by the time. Alvarez last fought as a light welter at the time of his 16th birthday!
So, actually Canelo did outgrow 140 lbs (or 63,5 kgs) almost 3 years younger teenager than Golovkin eventually did.... ...who exactly was the naturally smaller man???
After reading up to that I stopped reading. It’s typical of EO to spread such provocative nonsense.
Golovkin proved again he is on the level. I would say he’s close to great with all things considered - you can only fight who they put in front of you. In terms of special great such as a SRL, He’s not that but also wasn’t able to show even a glimpse given these big fights happened so late in his career.
Very good fighter who was a little overhyped by HBO and inherited a weakened division. When did Martinez beat pavlick? It's been a while.
I thought he got lucky against Jacobs which I thought was a draw, lost canelo 1 and from what I saw on my crappy Periscope picture, no better than a draw Saturday. Shall watch this wknd with much better tv feed.
I think the Alvarez fights may hurt him a bit given Alverez's struggles against guys like Trout and Lara. These seem to both be fights that he arguably lost and nobody exactly considers either of them great fighters.
Cojimar 1946 wrote: ↑17 Sep 2018, 22:38
I think the Alvarez fights may hurt him a bit given Alverez's struggles against guys like Trout and Lara. These seem to both be fights that he arguably lost and nobody exactly considers either of them great fighters.
His fights vs canelo define him really but it's a mess of a rivalry. The negatives for ggg are that he couldn't ko a guy moving up from 154 (and started at 147). He also lost the rematch.
On the plus side, canelo dodged him until he git old... he won the first fight & canelo got caught cheating too.
alvarez hasnt fought at 147 since he was 19. i dont think the size is a big deal, and the part of the article mentioning alvarezs pro debut weight w/o noting that he was 15 is laughable. ggg fought at 141 in the ams at 19 i think. things are a lot different at those ages.
whats more important is ggg just not really having any wins that have much significane at all historically. matt macklin , lemiex, murrauy stevents, etc mean very little beyond the immediate era, and of course when ggg stepped up vs jacobs and canelo he struggld greatly.
ggg has done nothing to earn a spot with the greats rather then just the very goods, guys like serigo martinez. only question now is if he will continue to be overrated in retirment, just like vitali has been. already i see loads of excuses to down play the loss like it wasnt legit or vs the 'real' ggg. so im not sure ppl over time will be as negative as the writer thinks
Neither has Canelo. The only argument is Cotto who was on the same level of popularity with Canelo at the time and who Canelo was favored to beat. The only time Canelo fought an "A-side" which was Floyd he lost. All of his wins, he was the A-side. 
