Charr fails drug test - Oquendo bout off

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What the hell now? Oquendo v Bryan? Miller v Oquendo?

This is getting ridiculous
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this is like a comedy sketch :lol:

next year will be 5 years of inactivity for mandatory challenger oquendo :o
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Fres Oquendo hasn’t fought for more than four years. Six months will probably pass by the time the WBA arranges for a replacement for Manuel Charr and the bout taking place. :o

Imagine a 45½ year old world title challenger finally receiving an opportunity to challenge for the WBA world championship despite being inactive for almost five years! FFS! :brick:
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I bet all my money that Oquendo will never fight for this "title"
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and there also goes charrs relevance....
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dagilechia wrote: 20 Sep 2018, 07:06 I bet all my money that Oquendo will never fight for this "title"
Win or lose, it's a payday for a guy approaching 45½ years of age that'll probably retire from the sport immediately after he's tasted defeat in his next bout... and he also knows that the WBA are legally obliged to provide him this opportunity.

It’s entirely possible that the WBA title is declared vacant and someone from the Matchroom stable, probably Jarrell 'Big Baby' Miller, faces Oquendo instead for this belt on DAZN. I know that Dereck Chisora and Dillian Whyte were both very recently interested in challenging for this title.

Therefore, there’s a every chance that Oquendo could receive a fairly decent payday from Eddie Hearn to become a sacrificial lamb for one of his guys.
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the funny things is that this whole ordeal comes from a fight he lost....and while that was a close fight it was a legit loss and not a bryd/mormeck redux
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jamamb wrote: 20 Sep 2018, 07:23 the funny things is that this whole ordeal comes from a fight he lost....and while that was a close fight it was a legit loss and not a bryd/mormeck redux
The Oquendo camp claimed that they agreed to travel to face Ruslan Chagaev based on an agreement that a rematch clause was in place, coupled with them supposedly receiving a sizable payday that they only received a portion of. They were promised an extra $1m that they never received.

He was also promised an extra $100K when the Russian promoter fȕckȅd up the travel plans, which he claims he never received.

Oquendo also had proof that RUSADA violated the WADA code when they tested him, by failing to adhere to the testing protocols. Fres was then immediately tested by USADA and his results were clean. Oquendo also claimed that he only ever agreed to be tested by SADA.

The promoter also breached their agreement by moving the fight date one day earlier than originally planned, which obviously differed from the terms detailed in the fight contract.

Oquendo lost the fight in a controversial manner and the American’s own promoters weren’t paid their fees either.

The WBA also allowed several irregularities to take place, such as the Chechnyan President climbing up on the ring apron between rounds to coach Chagaev, as well as several rounds being cut short (i.e. less than three minutes).

Everything was documented and agreed at the time by all parties and Oquendo eventually filed a lawsuit against the WBA for several charges, including breach of contract and tortuous interference.

Here are the details of Oquendo's lawsuit victories (where the article is the first episode of a three part series, due to there being so many ridiculous charges being filed - in terms of how badly Fres was treated):

"OQUENDO WINS LAWSUIT VS. CHAGAEV'S PROMOTER... BUT WILL CCC TEREK LISTEN?"
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oh ya not denying any of that but even the fight it goes back to was itself unimpressive and a loss, which makes it more hilarious :lol:
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I wish the WBA would just vacate the belt.
And find a last minute substitute and call it a title bout to get rid of this crap.
The WBA regular belt means absolutely nothing anyway.
Surely some top 25 guy is available to fill in for Charr
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tiny_acres wrote: 20 Sep 2018, 08:31 I wish the WBA would just vacate the belt.
And find a last minute substitute and call it a title bout to get rid of this crap.
The WBA regular belt means absolutely nothing anyway.
Surely some top 25 guy is available to fill in for Charr
1. Trevor Bryan
2. Alexander Povetkin
3. Fres Oquendo
4. Jarrell Miller
5. Dillian Whyte
6. Dereck Chisora
7. Otto Wallin
8. Bryant Jennings
9. Guillermo Jones
10. BJ Flores
11. Christian Hammer
12. Alexander Ustinov
13. Bogdan Dinu
14. Joe Joyce
15. Christopher Lo

Surely one of these guys can fill in at last minute
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One of the main issues here is that the event was being held by Charr's team so either they put the event on for someone else (unlikely) or Oquendo has to be dropped into another event, something that Matchroom would be able to do the easiest as they have a few Matchroom USA cards coming up.

Would be good to have the stupid interim title that Bryan has unified with the main title if they strip Charr, simply to get the Oquendo and Bryan issues out of the way. After that could see one of the Matchroom guys getting a pop at it.
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fornicate all that. i knew charr is not the brightest candle on the cake, but that he is such a dumb motherfucker is mindnumbing. wtf!

you really need that shit to fight oquendo? what is it with those fornicating roids? if you eat good and train hard what do you need that shit for?

it´s a fornicating epidemic, i know, fornicating go on youtube and look at that army of fitness/bodybuilding wankers juiced to the gills! and everybody is even admitting it lately!

it´s disgusting, they all look like fornicating dicks! literally! shaved fornicating heads, fingerthick veins popping out of everywhere. fornicate those guys!

and the retarded 3 quarters (positive estimaTION) of our whole youth is looking up, idolizing those fuckheads!

go out on the street, everybody wants to be buffed or shredded! the girls kill themselves to look like skeletons with fake tits, fake lips. fake ass and shit! show me a full figured teenage girl whö´s happy with how she naturally looks! makes me so fornicating angry! :witzend: :doh:

sorry, lost it again. yeah, who the fornicate cares, vacate the "title" or hand it to oquendo honorarily for waiting 5 years and getting fucked over in grozny! or make lovejoy vs. oquendo! i´m for it, lovejoy vs. oquendo for the regular wba-belt! charr is really a dumb, sorry ass motherfucker (under the premisse that he really took the effin roids).
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WBA regular is nothing but a joke anyways, on the level of IBU, WBF,GBU & WTF! WORLD TITLES!
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Fücks sake!! Never ending this!

First Briggs fails and now Charr!!

Why are these guys cheating to beat Oquendo? Lol

Should have just done Oquendo vs. Ustinov last year.
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Maybe Fres Oquendo in a shadowboxing match for the WBA regular title? :maybe:
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That's just hilarious.
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The logical compromise is to move Free Oquendo into Adamek's spot on October 6th in Chicago (Oquendo's hometown) and do Jarrell Miller vs. Fres Oquendo for the WBA Regular Title on DAZN. Miller was to be the mandatory to the winner anyways. It makes all the sense in the world for all parties involved.
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walter5 wrote: 20 Sep 2018, 11:52 The logical compromise is to move Free Oquendo into Adamek's spot on October 6th in Chicago (Oquendo's hometown) and do Jarrell Miller vs. Fres Oquendo for the WBA Regular Title on DAZN. Miller was to be the mandatory to the winner anyways. It makes all the sense in the world for all parties involved.
Adamek gonna bring 10x more fans in Chicago than Oquendo and also is much better opponet than Oquendo (people say Miller vs Adamek is a mismatch so what to say about Miller vs Oquendo... :maybe:)

Oquendo is not even a top 100 HW
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dagilechia wrote: 20 Sep 2018, 11:58
walter5 wrote: 20 Sep 2018, 11:52 The logical compromise is to move Free Oquendo into Adamek's spot on October 6th in Chicago (Oquendo's hometown) and do Jarrell Miller vs. Fres Oquendo for the WBA Regular Title on DAZN. Miller was to be the mandatory to the winner anyways. It makes all the sense in the world for all parties involved.
Adamek gonna bring 10x more fans in Chicago than Oquendo and also is much better opponet than Oquendo (people say Miller vs Adamek is a mismatch so what to say about Miller vs Oquendo... :maybe:)

Oquendo is not even a top 100 HW
Yes it sucks. But Oquendo has to have a title shot. Get it over with someone for a vacant belt.
Personally I'd like to see Joyce vs Oquendo on the Wilder Fury undercard
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Btw Charr stated that he's innocent... Maybe he has eaten Mexican Kebab :maybe:
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This dude must have broken a mirror, because he's more than halfway through a run of 7 years of title fight cancellations. Pretty ridiculous that, at some point, maybe in 2018, maybe in 2019, Oquendo will fight for a title after having not boxed since 2014.
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joshj909 wrote: 20 Sep 2018, 06:43
What the hell now? Oquendo v Bryan? Miller v Oquendo?

This is getting ridiculous
Getting ridiculous? It was ridiculous the whole time. It's gotten absolutely absurd :lol:

This has gotta be the most insanely stupid running joke in the history of the sport.

Just bring in a filler opponent for the same day to fight Oquendo, and let's get this sh*t over with already for f*cks sake. It can be a guy not ranked in the Top 50...f*ck it. I mean Charr basically wasn't so what the hell's the difference :lol:
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dagilechia wrote: 20 Sep 2018, 11:58
walter5 wrote: 20 Sep 2018, 11:52 The logical compromise is to move Free Oquendo into Adamek's spot on October 6th in Chicago (Oquendo's hometown) and do Jarrell Miller vs. Fres Oquendo for the WBA Regular Title on DAZN. Miller was to be the mandatory to the winner anyways. It makes all the sense in the world for all parties involved.
Adamek gonna bring 10x more fans in Chicago than Oquendo and also is much better opponet than Oquendo (people say Miller vs Adamek is a mismatch so what to say about Miller vs Oquendo... :maybe:)

Oquendo is not even a top 100 HW
Nobody cares what Oquendo is in the landscape of heavyweights. He's going to get a WBA World Title shot and everyone wants that belt. It's no problem for Hearn to find another opponent for Adamek as well.
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