AJ and PEDs....?

[TheLeprechaun]

I love this type of attitude

"I HAVE NO EVIDENCE, SCIENTIFIC BACKGROUND OR EDUCATION ON THE SUBJECT AND I WILL THINK THE SAME NO MATTER WHAT ANYONE SAYS. DOCTORS, SCIENTISTS, SPORTS PROFESSIONALS. FVCK IT, HE'S ON DRUGS AND IT'S NAIVE TO THINK MY UNEDUCATED, NON-FACTUAL, NON-EVIDENTIAL, NEVER RESEARCH OPINION ISN'T RIGHT"

So clever and thought out. Never become a teacher

Do you feel better now?

No, I'm still laughing at the pure ignorance

I can assure you that the trainers and fighters who read but can't comment are laughing at you.

[danconnollyeire]

Do you feel better now?

No, I'm still laughing at the pure ignorance

I can assure you that the trainers and fighters who read but can't comment are laughing at you.

For?

[MarkMcBurney]

Personally, I don't give a f*ck what anyone says, aj is on peds

Whatever he does to get round it, he does it, and that's just my opinion

Very naive to think he ain't on something

I love this type of attitude

"I HAVE NO EVIDENCE, SCIENTIFIC BACKGROUND OR EDUCATION ON THE SUBJECT AND I WILL THINK THE SAME NO MATTER WHAT ANYONE SAYS. DOCTORS, SCIENTISTS, SPORTS PROFESSIONALS. FVCK IT, HE'S ON DRUGS AND IT'S NAIVE TO THINK MY UNEDUCATED, NON-FACTUAL, NON-EVIDENTIAL, NEVER RESEARCH OPINION ISN'T RIGHT"

So clever and thought out. Never become a teacher

Which doctors, scientists or sports professionals have said the opposite, out of interest?

[danconnollyeire]

Personally, I don't give a f*ck what anyone says, aj is on peds

Whatever he does to get round it, he does it, and that's just my opinion

Very naive to think he ain't on something

I love this type of attitude

"I HAVE NO EVIDENCE, SCIENTIFIC BACKGROUND OR EDUCATION ON THE SUBJECT AND I WILL THINK THE SAME NO MATTER WHAT ANYONE SAYS. DOCTORS, SCIENTISTS, SPORTS PROFESSIONALS. FVCK IT, HE'S ON DRUGS AND IT'S NAIVE TO THINK MY UNEDUCATED, NON-FACTUAL, NON-EVIDENTIAL, NEVER RESEARCH OPINION ISN'T RIGHT"

So clever and thought out. Never become a teacher

Which doctors, scientists or sports professionals have said the opposite, out of interest?

I don't know, I don't care. I've not actually supported AJ it just makes me laugh how 100% people are convinced with zero evidence or knowledge of how the body works/sports science/training etc. The sh1t people have been spouting is laughable. "He's on drugs cos I said he's on drugs, even though I have no knowledge of what PEDs are, do or make you look"

[tobyh5]

I love this type of attitude

"I HAVE NO EVIDENCE, SCIENTIFIC BACKGROUND OR EDUCATION ON THE SUBJECT AND I WILL THINK THE SAME NO MATTER WHAT ANYONE SAYS. DOCTORS, SCIENTISTS, SPORTS PROFESSIONALS. FVCK IT, HE'S ON DRUGS AND IT'S NAIVE TO THINK MY UNEDUCATED, NON-FACTUAL, NON-EVIDENTIAL, NEVER RESEARCH OPINION ISN'T RIGHT"

So clever and thought out. Never become a teacher

Which doctors, scientists or sports professionals have said the opposite, out of interest?

I don't know, I don't care. I've not actually supported AJ it just makes me laugh how 100% people are convinced with zero evidence or knowledge of how the body works/sports science/training etc. The sh1t people have been spouting is laughable. "He's on drugs cos I said he's on drugs, even though I have no knowledge of what PEDs are, do or make you look"

And your assumption that everyone on this forum or at least this thread has no experience or knowledge of how the body works/sports science/training etc is insulting. We are not all sitting on our arses posting on forums all day mate.

Some may have seen the inside of a gym. May even have, gasp, studied nutrition and, I know this is hard to believe, actually studied sports science and hell, know a little bit about training and so have a very educated and experienced position to express an opinion.


You literally know nothing, literally nothing, about the actual background and experience of posters to make YOUR assumption.

[Oiky]

I love this type of attitude

"I HAVE NO EVIDENCE, SCIENTIFIC BACKGROUND OR EDUCATION ON THE SUBJECT AND I WILL THINK THE SAME NO MATTER WHAT ANYONE SAYS. DOCTORS, SCIENTISTS, SPORTS PROFESSIONALS. FVCK IT, HE'S ON DRUGS AND IT'S NAIVE TO THINK MY UNEDUCATED, NON-FACTUAL, NON-EVIDENTIAL, NEVER RESEARCH OPINION ISN'T RIGHT"

So clever and thought out. Never become a teacher

Do you feel better now?

No, I'm still laughing at the pure ignorance

Laughing is good for soul and mind so you should feel better

[banjo]

So Cristiano Ronaldo is shredded to bits, absolutely shredded far better than AJ is. His training will revolve far less weights than a bodybuilder or a boxer.

So I guess he is on PEDs

I cannot see AJ being on PEDs, the crash would be too big, the only time I think he could have been on them is during that period he had off between ams and pros.

I think a guy training every day, all day, with top conditioning coaches, top nutritionists could achieve AJs body style.

Maybe he is on PEDs but surely not to just have a pretty body?

Based on Ronaldo and Messi's freakish performances over the last 10 years I'd say they are.

[tobyh5]

So Cristiano Ronaldo is shredded to bits, absolutely shredded far better than AJ is. His training will revolve far less weights than a bodybuilder or a boxer.

So I guess he is on PEDs

I cannot see AJ being on PEDs, the crash would be too big, the only time I think he could have been on them is during that period he had off between ams and pros.

I think a guy training every day, all day, with top conditioning coaches, top nutritionists could achieve AJs body style.

Maybe he is on PEDs but surely not to just have a pretty body?

Based on Ronaldo and Messi's freakish performances over the last 10 years I'd say they are.

Ronaldo is shredded to bits? Sorry but fck me the average guy has a different perspective of "shredded to bits". The best I have seen Ronaldo is low bodyfat, good condition, decent six pack, low mass and not a lot of tissue BUT he does not need any tissue, he does not need mass, he is not a bodybuilder, he is a fcking great footballer and is built for purpose but NO, he is not "shredded to bits", only to a really inexperienced eye.

[banjo]

So Cristiano Ronaldo is shredded to bits, absolutely shredded far better than AJ is. His training will revolve far less weights than a bodybuilder or a boxer.

So I guess he is on PEDs

I cannot see AJ being on PEDs, the crash would be too big, the only time I think he could have been on them is during that period he had off between ams and pros.

I think a guy training every day, all day, with top conditioning coaches, top nutritionists could achieve AJs body style.

Maybe he is on PEDs but surely not to just have a pretty body?

Based on Ronaldo and Messi's freakish performances over the last 10 years I'd say they are.

Ronaldo is shredded to bits? Sorry but fck me the average guy has a different perspective of "shredded to bits". The best I have seen Ronaldo is low bodyfat, good condition, decent six pack, low mass and not a lot of tissue BUT he does not need any tissue, he does not need mass, he is not a bodybuilder, he is a fcking great footballer and is built for purpose but NO, he is not "shredded to bits", only to a really inexperienced eye. He would be unplaced at any bodybuilding contest I have entered or at best getting a trophy at a shite show

Hey I never said he was shredded I just said his performances are suspect.

[tobyh5]

Based on Ronaldo and Messi's freakish performances over the last 10 years I'd say they are.

Ronaldo is shredded to bits? Sorry but fck me the average guy has a different perspective of "shredded to bits". The best I have seen Ronaldo is low bodyfat, good condition, decent six pack, low mass and not a lot of tissue BUT he does not need any tissue, he does not need mass, he is not a bodybuilder, he is a fcking great footballer and is built for purpose but NO, he is not "shredded to bits", only to a really inexperienced eye. He would be unplaced at any bodybuilding contest I have entered or at best getting a trophy at a shite show

Hey I never said he was shredded I just said his performances are suspect.

Sorry bud, was referring to the person you quoted

[tobyh5]

To say that someone like Ronaldo is on gear because he is "shredded" is just silly talk.



This one is me and I am complete fcking garbage at bodybuilding, awful genetics, crap at being strict with my diet, an office pussy and desk jockey and in my 40's



(Shredded) Ronaldo.

[tobyh5]

By the way those trying to use the example of Ronaldo or anyone else who comes in “shredded “, getting shredded is actually in all of us And is literally a case of following a negative energy balance for extended period of time whereas gaining substantial muscle mass is beyond nearly everyone naturally even if following every piece of suggested training and nutrition and science perfectly

[Spiker]

I can’t see how AJ isn’t on peds Haye also was on them imo. I’ve taken enough of them myself to know when somebody is on them. As above forget footballers maybe they would take anavar or clenbuterol to lose some fat. The amount of cardio needed in boxing strips you of muscle no matter how much protein you consume. I would imagine he’s on hgh and test suspension in and out the system in 6 hours. I’m certain that uk doping want a cut a will oversee certain things. No way is AJ natty no way

[tobyh5]

I can’t see how AJ isn’t on peds Haye also was on them imo. I’ve taken enough of them myself to know when somebody is on them. As above forget footballers maybe they would take anavar or clenbuterol to lose some fat. The amount of cardio needed in boxing strips you of muscle no matter how much protein you consume. I would imagine he’s on hgh and test suspension in and out the system in 6 hours. I’m certain that uk doping want a cut a will oversee certain things. No way is AJ natty no way

Pretty much my thoughts although I am not sure I agree about boxing and cardio stripping muscle but it certainly would prevent gaining any naturally. Eat enough, look after MPS l and do not create a huge energy balance deficit (if any at all as not needed at heavy) and you should prevent it stripping muscle.

[jamamb]

ronaldo has a totally different body type then aj, ronaldo clearly has low fat but obviously nowhere near the same muscle mass

[Boxerbeetle]

ronaldo has a totally different body type then aj, ronaldo clearly has low fat but obviously nowhere near the same muscle mass

Yeah I think people are just meaning low body fat when they’re saying shredded

[Crease]

No.

I don't think that AJ would be that stupid.

[tobyh5]

ronaldo has a totally different body type then aj, ronaldo clearly has low fat but obviously nowhere near the same muscle mass

Yeah I think people are just meaning low body fat when they’re saying shredded

Exactly that. Eat less. Move more. You will eventually be low body fat. Simple as that despite the BS the fitness and BB industry tries to tell you.

However like I said, gaining the amount of mass AJ has, ON AN ALREADY HEAVILY TRAINED ADULT BODY certainly raises eyebrows. The level of mass is not at all suspect, the gain is.

[Boxerbeetle]

ronaldo has a totally different body type then aj, ronaldo clearly has low fat but obviously nowhere near the same muscle mass

Yeah I think people are just meaning low body fat when they’re saying shredded

Exactly that. Eat less. Move more. You will eventually be low body fat. Simple as that despite the BS the fitness and BB industry tries to tell you.

However like I said, gaining the amount of mass AJ has, ON AN ALREADY HEAVILY TRAINED ADULT BODY certainly raises eyebrows. The level of mass is not at all suspect, the gain is.

What’s your opinion of Lennox after he joined Steward? He seemed to have some pretty rapid and hefty gains?

[tobyh5]

Yeah I think people are just meaning low body fat when they’re saying shredded

Exactly that. Eat less. Move more. You will eventually be low body fat. Simple as that despite the BS the fitness and BB industry tries to tell you.

However like I said, gaining the amount of mass AJ has, ON AN ALREADY HEAVILY TRAINED ADULT BODY certainly raises eyebrows. The level of mass is not at all suspect, the gain is.

What’s your opinion of Lennox after he joined Steward? He seemed to have some pretty rapid and hefty gains?

Massive gains but equal fat gains too. Was filled out hugely but did not remain the same lean levels which lend me to think natural. Kinda like the difference between in-season and off-season bodybuilder.

Show shape at a probable 6-8% and dry as a bone, few months later and a beefy strong 15+%, performance completely different off-season. Look fuller, much stronger, more energy etc. That is what the difference looks to me, just not as cardio driven, better nutrition, eating better and more, not trying to drop down in weight and retaining more strength.

May be hugely wrong, just my feeling. Where the two guys differentiate was Lennox got softer, AJ remains lean and hard.

[Counter-puncher]

Exactly that. Eat less. Move more. You will eventually be low body fat. Simple as that despite the BS the fitness and BB industry tries to tell you.

However like I said, gaining the amount of mass AJ has, ON AN ALREADY HEAVILY TRAINED ADULT BODY certainly raises eyebrows. The level of mass is not at all suspect, the gain is.

What’s your opinion of Lennox after he joined Steward? He seemed to have some pretty rapid and hefty gains?

Massive gains but equal fat gains too. Was filled out hugely but did not remain the same lean levels which lend me to think natural. Kinda like the difference between in-season and off-season bodybuilder.

Show shape at a probable 6-8% and dry as a bone, few months later and a beefy strong 15+%, performance completely different off-season. Look fuller, much stronger, more energy etc. That is what the difference looks to me, just not as cardio driven, better nutrition, eating better and more, not trying to drop down in weight and retaining more strength.

May be hugely wrong, just my feeling. Where the two guys differentiate was Lennox got softer, AJ remains lean and hard.

interesting

the Klits on the other hand..... ?

[Coco]

Bruno bulked up AJ wise, as did Holyfield.
When Lewis put on weight it was more like Ali did

[jamamb]

ah yes, good old evan fields

[Exoddus]

You'll find out soon enough when he loses, once the golden goose has been smashed to bits, loads will squeal if he is on gear.

Dillian Whyte already did. Said they used to travel and share rooms together. AJ would go into the toilet and inject. He said this in the build up to their first fight. Whyte wasn't sued for slander either.

[tobyh5]

ah yes, good old evan fields

His weight gain period was assisted by Lee Haney - a 7 time Mr Olympia (the biggest and most elite juiced BB'ers)