Ken Buchanan vs Alexis Arguello. What If?

KOJOE90 · Post by **KOJOE90** » 08 Apr 2006, 10:39

At Lightweight over 15 rounds who wins?

Ken Buchanan
http://www.boxrec.com/boxer_display.php?boxer_id=142

Alexis Arguello
http://www.boxrec.com/boxer_display.php?boxer_id=2179

Can The Tartan Warrior stand up to El Flaco Explosivo?

Expug · Post by **Expug** » 08 Apr 2006, 10:54

I like Buchannans chances. Hewas a terrific boxer and occasionaly Alexis could be out boxed . Vilomar Fernandez copped a dec. over him . Ken definitely wouldnt stop him but I can picture him outboxing him for a dec.Buchannan is sometmes a little overlooked.

theone · Post by **theone** » 08 Apr 2006, 10:54

Arguello tko 13.

theone · Post by **theone** » 08 Apr 2006, 11:12

. Vilomar Fernandez copped a dec. over him . Ken definitely wouldnt stop him but I can picture him outboxing him for a dec.Buchannan is sometmes a little overlooked.

Fernandez name always comes up when Arguello is matched up against someone with boxing skills. Its as if anyone who can stick and move a bit has it over Arguello. The fact remains that Arguello has defeated boxers who were alot better than Fernandez. That fight was an over the weight non title match that took place a little over a month after an easy title defense. Arguello was looking past Fernandez at a possible match with Duran and underestimated Fernandez.
Buccannan was not that kind of fighter anyway.He would have to mix it up from time to time with Arguello since his height and reach disadvantge would make it difficult for him to fight outside the whole time. He was fast, but not fast enough to dash in and out continously with out getting countered.

Ambling Alp · Post by **Ambling Alp** » 08 Apr 2006, 11:46

I'm going with Arguello as well. He was simply a much better fighter than Buchanan. Arguello by stoppage or lopsided decision.

silkov · Post by **silkov** » 08 Apr 2006, 12:31

I think this would have been a great fight, very close, but I think Arguellos extra power would have allowed him to finish stronger and win a close decision... I don't see Arguello stopping Buchanan who is pretty underrated these days...

Steve M · Post by **Steve M** » 08 Apr 2006, 12:32

Buchanan had an awesome chin.It's hard to imagine even Arguello stopping him.

surf-bat · Post by **surf-bat** » 08 Apr 2006, 17:53

Arguello has virtually no chance of stopping Buchanan. Ken has a granite chin and enough boxing skill to keep out of the way of any follow-up from Alexis if "The Explosive Thin Man" did manage to land one of his bombs. Alexis wins a decision in a competitive fight.

KO Artist · Post by **KO Artist** » 08 Apr 2006, 19:52

Arguellos power might shade it, or Buchanans skills might edge it.???

A draw wouldnt be out of the question, maybe even a trilogy needed to decide it.

Buchanan WU15
Arguello WU15
Arguello WSP15

dempseyfire · Post by **dempseyfire** » 08 Apr 2006, 23:19

Very close fight. I can't help but think Arguello's power shots would be the difference over the long haul, and after getting outboxed for a duration he shades the championship rounds for a slightly controversial decision.

elmersalsa · Post by **elmersalsa** » 10 Apr 2006, 15:31

I do not know if Arguello could cope with Buchanan's speed. The way to beat Buchanan is to apply extreme pressure like Duran and Laguna did. Otherwise, it will be a long night for Arguello. I could see Buchanan's razor sharp jab in Arguello's face.

Arguello's best was at 126 and 130...At 135 and above, he looked too sluggish, but still had some awesome power.

Buchanan by decision

bennie · Post by **bennie** » 10 Apr 2006, 16:37

If Arguello couldn't stop Jim Watt, he wouldn't stop Kenny.
Overall, you have to favour Arguello. He was a great fighter; Buchanan, an excellent one.

KO Artist · Post by **KO Artist** » 10 Apr 2006, 16:59

bennie wrote:If Arguello couldn't stop Jim Watt, he wouldn't stop Kenny.
Overall, you have to favour Arguello. He was a great fighter; Buchanan, an excellent one.

Your take on the fight seems realistic. Although I would term Kenny a great fighter, certainly better than Benn, Eubank and even Hamed.

Do you think Kennys legacy is harmed by not getting a rematch with Duran.

I reckon he could have won a rematch

bennie · Post by **bennie** » 10 Apr 2006, 17:15

KO Artist wrote:
bennie wrote:If Arguello couldn't stop Jim Watt, he wouldn't stop Kenny.
Overall, you have to favour Arguello. He was a great fighter; Buchanan, an excellent one.
Your take on the fight seems realistic. Although I would term Kenny a great fighter, certainly better than Benn, Eubank and even Hamed.

Do you think Kennys legacy is harmed by not getting a rematch with Duran.

I reckon he could have won a rematch

Buchanan is undoubtedly a BRITISH great (Harry Mullan had him at No. 1). I think in terms of great fighters generally, Buchanan didn't reign long enough to be regarded as such (just two defences). Ok, he ran into Duran, but Kenny did get another world title shot after that and lost to Ishimatu, of course.
It was a fight he would have been expected to win before Duran.
The latter leads me to believe he wouldn't have won a Duran rematch. He was miles behind on the scorecards when the controversial end came in '72 (had not won more than three rounds on any card).
People often forget that.

KOJOE90 · Post by **KOJOE90** » 06 May 2006, 11:35

KO Artist wrote:Do you think Kennys legacy is harmed by not getting a rematch with Duran.

I reckon he could have won a rematch

I don't agree. Kenny was taking a beating that night.

Kenny was a very good Champion at Lightweight but Duran was GREAT.

In a rematch I still see Duran winning.

DoubleM · Post by **DoubleM** » 06 May 2006, 13:14

Ambling Alp wrote:I'm going with Arguello as well. He was simply a much better fighter than Buchanan. Arguello by stoppage or lopsided decision.

Haha. Arguello wasn't much better, and even if he wins, the decision will not be lopsided. Buchanan was superb. Check out his early bouts, his skills are almost that of Willie Pep.

theone · Post by **theone** » 07 May 2006, 12:35

Buchanan was superb. Check out his early bouts, his skills are almost that of Willie Pep.

Jeez, this a the boldest statement I ever read on this site. Buchanans skills were very good, borderline great I could even agree with. But Pep like?
Not even close.

DoubleM · Post by **DoubleM** » 07 May 2006, 13:36

theone wrote:
Buchanan was superb. Check out his early bouts, his skills are almost that of Willie Pep.
Jeez, this a the boldest statement I ever read on this site. Buchanans skills were very good, borderline great I could even agree with. But Pep like?
Not even close.

'Almost that of Willie Pep'. And that is no lie. Buchanan could be smooth as butter.

silkov · Post by **silkov** » 08 May 2006, 11:33

bennie wrote:
KO Artist wrote:
bennie wrote:If Arguello couldn't stop Jim Watt, he wouldn't stop Kenny.
Overall, you have to favour Arguello. He was a great fighter; Buchanan, an excellent one.
Your take on the fight seems realistic. Although I would term Kenny a great fighter, certainly better than Benn, Eubank and even Hamed.

Do you think Kennys legacy is harmed by not getting a rematch with Duran.

I reckon he could have won a rematch
Buchanan is undoubtedly a BRITISH great (Harry Mullan had him at No. 1). I think in terms of great fighters generally, Buchanan didn't reign long enough to be regarded as such (just two defences). Ok, he ran into Duran, but Kenny did get another world title shot after that and lost to Ishimatu, of course.
It was a fight he would have been expected to win before Duran.
The latter leads me to believe he wouldn't have won a Duran rematch. He was miles behind on the scorecards when the controversial end came in '72 (had not won more than three rounds on any card).
People often forget that.

I agree that Buchanan wouldn't have beaten Duran in a rematch... Buchanan was a great boxer but his one flaw was that he lacked power at world class and so he couldnt hurt Duran like for instance Dejesus could...