“Even Briedis?” The Latvian is no joke.dagilechia wrote: ↑23 Sep 2018, 08:25Im not so sure after Povetkin's performance vs AJ. remember that even Briedis gave Usyk some troubles.ValMar wrote: ↑23 Sep 2018, 08:23Usyk would win by wide decision (119-109 or 118-110).sharpei_louis wrote: ↑23 Sep 2018, 08:06 I'd like to see him take on Usyk assuming he beats Bellew.
Matchup suits both fighters - small hw for Usyk to show us how he boxes against a natural - top tier hw and whether he is credible challenger to AJ, whereas Usyk isn't looking like being a puncher at hw so Povetkin would carry some advantages into the fight.
Both at transitional times regarding hw so a great fight.
Also the Russia/Ukraine angle should help shift tickets if it needed an angle!
What's next for Povetkin?
Re: What's next for Povetkin?
Re: What's next for Povetkin?
I think that Povetkin's (220 lbs) punching power is a little bit better than Gassiev's (200 lbs), but Gassiev (220 lbs) would be more powerful than Povetkin, surely.dagilechia wrote: ↑23 Sep 2018, 08:56You really believe that Gassievs punches harder than Povetkin? And other thing is that Povetkin gets inside much much better, throws combinations from many different angles. Povetkin punches harder and has better abilities to caught someone with a deadly punch. I cant even imagine Gassiev getting inside vs AJ.Luis Fernando12 wrote: ↑23 Sep 2018, 08:53Gassiev arguably punches much harder than Povetkin and Usyk had no problems taking Gassiev's punches on his chin.dagilechia wrote: ↑23 Sep 2018, 08:51
The thing is that a devastating ko loss vs Usyk seems unlikely. Sure Usyk possibly outpoints current Povetkin but i think it's unlikely that Pov gets only 1 or 2 rounds. There is still a question about Usyk chin - i dont suspect he's chinny but who knows how he reacts if someone like Povetkin caughts him. I give 55% chances to Usyk outpoint him, 35% Povetkin by KO, 10% Povetkin PTS.
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Re: What's next for Povetkin?
I can easily imagine Povetkin knocking out Shimmell with ease. I can't imagine Gassiev knocking out Takam or Perez especially not as brutally as Povetkin did.
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Re: What's next for Povetkin?
I dont think he's a joke. But cmon, do you think he was more of a threat to Usyk than Povetkin is? Povetkin is more skilled, more powerful, just a better bigger stronger boxer. Povetkin is still significantly better than anyone on Usyk's resumeironbeard wrote: ↑23 Sep 2018, 09:00“Even Briedis?” The Latvian is no joke.dagilechia wrote: ↑23 Sep 2018, 08:25Im not so sure after Povetkin's performance vs AJ. remember that even Briedis gave Usyk some troubles.
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Re: What's next for Povetkin?
Povetkin couldn't even KO Hammmer, the same guy Mariusz Wach and Tyson Fury stopped. WHo aren't even close to the most powerful punchers.dagilechia wrote: ↑23 Sep 2018, 09:01 I can easily imagine Povetkin knocking out Shimmell with ease. I can't imagine Gassiev knocking out Takam or Perez especially not as brutally as Povetkin did.
What do you think Gassiev would do to that clown Hammer?
Povetkin, and I REPEAT, Povetkin never KO'ed somebody as brutally as Gassiev KO'ed Shimmell. And kept them unconscious for that long. It never happened! Because he doesn't hit as hard as Gassiev!
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Re: What's next for Povetkin?
Povetkin arguably lost to Huck mate. Usyk and Breidis did a far better job on that Huck. Povetkin would get embarrassed by Brieidis or Usyk. Usyk would shut him out 12-0 in a mismatch type no contest.dagilechia wrote: ↑23 Sep 2018, 09:03I dont think he's a joke. But cmon, do you think he was more of a threat to Usyk than Povetkin is. Povetkin is more skilled, more powerful, just a better bigger stronger boxer. Povetkin is still significantly better than anyone on Usyk's resumeironbeard wrote: ↑23 Sep 2018, 09:00“Even Briedis?” The Latvian is no joke.dagilechia wrote: ↑23 Sep 2018, 08:25
Im not so sure after Povetkin's performance vs AJ. remember that even Briedis gave Usyk some troubles.
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Re: What's next for Povetkin?
Following this logic, Chisora is a better puncher than AJ and Cunningham is a better puncher than Klitschko.Luis Fernando12 wrote: ↑23 Sep 2018, 09:03Povetkin couldn't even KO Hammmer, the same guy Mariusz Wach and Tyson Fury stopped. WHo aren't even close to the most powerful punchers.dagilechia wrote: ↑23 Sep 2018, 09:01 I can easily imagine Povetkin knocking out Shimmell with ease. I can't imagine Gassiev knocking out Takam or Perez especially not as brutally as Povetkin did.
What do you think Gassiev would do to that clown Hammer?
Povetkin, and I REPEAT, Povetkin never KO'ed somebody as brutally as Gassiev KO'ed Shimmell. And kept them unconscious for that long. It never happened! Because he doesn't hit as hard as Gassiev!
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Re: What's next for Povetkin?
Chisora didn't put Takam to sleep, like Gassiev put Shimell to sleep, did he?dagilechia wrote: ↑23 Sep 2018, 09:05Following this logic, Chisora is a better puncher than AJ and Cunningham is a better puncher than Klitschko.Luis Fernando12 wrote: ↑23 Sep 2018, 09:03Povetkin couldn't even KO Hammmer, the same guy Mariusz Wach and Tyson Fury stopped. WHo aren't even close to the most powerful punchers.dagilechia wrote: ↑23 Sep 2018, 09:01 I can easily imagine Povetkin knocking out Shimmell with ease. I can't imagine Gassiev knocking out Takam or Perez especially not as brutally as Povetkin did.
What do you think Gassiev would do to that clown Hammer?
Povetkin, and I REPEAT, Povetkin never KO'ed somebody as brutally as Gassiev KO'ed Shimmell. And kept them unconscious for that long. It never happened! Because he doesn't hit as hard as Gassiev!
And who did Cunningham put to sleep that Klitshcko couldn't?
Re: What's next for Povetkin?
A bum, really? The fight would have been even through 7 IF the Russian had survived. Where in that scenario do you find the evidence that the loser by TKO7 made the winner look like a bum?
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Re: What's next for Povetkin?
It was worst version of Povetkin and he underestimated prime Huck. Briedis fought past prime Huck.Luis Fernando12 wrote: ↑23 Sep 2018, 09:04Povetkin arguably lost to Huck mate. Usyk and Breidis did a far better job on that Huck. Povetkin would get embarrassed by Brieidis or Usyk. Usyk would shut him out 12-0 in a mismatch type no contest.dagilechia wrote: ↑23 Sep 2018, 09:03I dont think he's a joke. But cmon, do you think he was more of a threat to Usyk than Povetkin is. Povetkin is more skilled, more powerful, just a better bigger stronger boxer. Povetkin is still significantly better than anyone on Usyk's resume
Re: What's next for Povetkin?
You have some problems if you compare Takam (B+ HW) with Shimell (nobody, nowhere).Luis Fernando12 wrote: ↑23 Sep 2018, 09:06Chisora didn't put Takam to sleep, like Gassiev put Shimell to sleep, did he?dagilechia wrote: ↑23 Sep 2018, 09:05Following this logic, Chisora is a better puncher than AJ and Cunningham is a better puncher than Klitschko.Luis Fernando12 wrote: ↑23 Sep 2018, 09:03
Povetkin couldn't even KO Hammmer, the same guy Mariusz Wach and Tyson Fury stopped. WHo aren't even close to the most powerful punchers.
What do you think Gassiev would do to that clown Hammer?
Povetkin, and I REPEAT, Povetkin never KO'ed somebody as brutally as Gassiev KO'ed Shimmell. And kept them unconscious for that long. It never happened! Because he doesn't hit as hard as Gassiev!
And who did Cunningham put to sleep that Klitshcko couldn't?
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Re: What's next for Povetkin?
Del Boy knocked out Takam, AJ didnt. Cunn knocked down Fury, Wlad didnt.Luis Fernando12 wrote: ↑23 Sep 2018, 09:06Chisora didn't put Takam to sleep, like Gassiev put Shimell to sleep, did he?dagilechia wrote: ↑23 Sep 2018, 09:05Following this logic, Chisora is a better puncher than AJ and Cunningham is a better puncher than Klitschko.Luis Fernando12 wrote: ↑23 Sep 2018, 09:03
Povetkin couldn't even KO Hammmer, the same guy Mariusz Wach and Tyson Fury stopped. WHo aren't even close to the most powerful punchers.
What do you think Gassiev would do to that clown Hammer?
Povetkin, and I REPEAT, Povetkin never KO'ed somebody as brutally as Gassiev KO'ed Shimmell. And kept them unconscious for that long. It never happened! Because he doesn't hit as hard as Gassiev!
And who did Cunningham put to sleep that Klitshcko couldn't?
Re: What's next for Povetkin?
Juice is against the rules for a reason.dagilechia wrote: ↑23 Sep 2018, 09:01 I can easily imagine Povetkin knocking out Shimmell with ease. I can't imagine Gassiev knocking out Takam or Perez especially not as brutally as Povetkin did.
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Re: What's next for Povetkin?
Takam is also a nobody! The only reason why he became a somebody was because Povetkin beat him. When you're getting embarrassed and blasted out of the ring by light hitting Dereck Chisora in ABSOLUTE SPECTACULAR FASHION, then you can't be anything other a nobody.ValMar wrote: ↑23 Sep 2018, 09:10You have some problems if you compare Takam (B+ HW) with Shimell (nobody, nowhere).Luis Fernando12 wrote: ↑23 Sep 2018, 09:06Chisora didn't put Takam to sleep, like Gassiev put Shimell to sleep, did he?dagilechia wrote: ↑23 Sep 2018, 09:05
Following this logic, Chisora is a better puncher than AJ and Cunningham is a better puncher than Klitschko.
And who did Cunningham put to sleep that Klitshcko couldn't?
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Re: What's next for Povetkin?
I'm talking about concussive knockouts! They weren't concussive KO's!dagilechia wrote: ↑23 Sep 2018, 09:11Del Boy knocked out Takam, AJ didnt. Cunn knocked down Fury, Wlad didnt.Luis Fernando12 wrote: ↑23 Sep 2018, 09:06Chisora didn't put Takam to sleep, like Gassiev put Shimell to sleep, did he?dagilechia wrote: ↑23 Sep 2018, 09:05
Following this logic, Chisora is a better puncher than AJ and Cunningham is a better puncher than Klitschko.
And who did Cunningham put to sleep that Klitshcko couldn't?
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Re: What's next for Povetkin?
Any version of Povetkin would struggle against Huck.dagilechia wrote: ↑23 Sep 2018, 09:09It was worst version of Povetkin and he underestimated prime Huck. Briedis fought past prime Huck.Luis Fernando12 wrote: ↑23 Sep 2018, 09:04Povetkin arguably lost to Huck mate. Usyk and Breidis did a far better job on that Huck. Povetkin would get embarrassed by Brieidis or Usyk. Usyk would shut him out 12-0 in a mismatch type no contest.dagilechia wrote: ↑23 Sep 2018, 09:03
I dont think he's a joke. But cmon, do you think he was more of a threat to Usyk than Povetkin is. Povetkin is more skilled, more powerful, just a better bigger stronger boxer. Povetkin is still significantly better than anyone on Usyk's resume
Re: What's next for Povetkin?
. . . and utterly dominated him.dagilechia wrote: ↑23 Sep 2018, 09:09It was worst version of Povetkin and he underestimated prime Huck. Briedis fought past prime Huck.Luis Fernando12 wrote: ↑23 Sep 2018, 09:04Povetkin arguably lost to Huck mate. Usyk and Breidis did a far better job on that Huck. Povetkin would get embarrassed by Brieidis or Usyk. Usyk would shut him out 12-0 in a mismatch type no contest.dagilechia wrote: ↑23 Sep 2018, 09:03
I dont think he's a joke. But cmon, do you think he was more of a threat to Usyk than Povetkin is. Povetkin is more skilled, more powerful, just a better bigger stronger boxer. Povetkin is still significantly better than anyone on Usyk's resume
Usyk would be fighting post prime / juice Povetkin.
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Re: What's next for Povetkin?
How do you see potential Povetkin vs Briedis matchup?ironbeard wrote: ↑23 Sep 2018, 09:16. . . and utterly dominated him.dagilechia wrote: ↑23 Sep 2018, 09:09It was worst version of Povetkin and he underestimated prime Huck. Briedis fought past prime Huck.Luis Fernando12 wrote: ↑23 Sep 2018, 09:04
Povetkin arguably lost to Huck mate. Usyk and Breidis did a far better job on that Huck. Povetkin would get embarrassed by Brieidis or Usyk. Usyk would shut him out 12-0 in a mismatch type no contest.
Usyk would be fighting post prime / juice Povetkin.
Re: What's next for Povetkin?
Takam has been among the top 20 HWs for a years, a solid, tough fighter.Luis Fernando12 wrote: ↑23 Sep 2018, 09:14Takam is also a nobody! The only reason why he became a somebody was because Povetkin beat him. When you're getting embarrassed and blasted out of the ring by light hitting Dereck Chisora in ABSOLUTE SPECTACULAR FASHION, then you can't be anything other a nobody.ValMar wrote: ↑23 Sep 2018, 09:10You have some problems if you compare Takam (B+ HW) with Shimell (nobody, nowhere).Luis Fernando12 wrote: ↑23 Sep 2018, 09:06
Chisora didn't put Takam to sleep, like Gassiev put Shimell to sleep, did he?
And who did Cunningham put to sleep that Klitshcko couldn't?
Re: What's next for Povetkin?
Povetkin lost by brutal TKO7. Nice effort but let’s not make that performance something it was not. He was ahead on most fans cards by 4-2. It would have been even IF he had made it out of 7. It was a game but futile effort.astradamus wrote: ↑23 Sep 2018, 09:17Povetkin would win easely, but many people also didn't believe he had a chance against AJ, I genuinly hope Povetkin will proof it.ironbeard wrote: ↑23 Sep 2018, 08:48I agree that it is the most interesting fight. However, Povetkin would not win easily.astradamus wrote: ↑23 Sep 2018, 06:37 I think the most interesting fight for me with him involved would be against Ortiz.
Funny thing is, that despite there is no price on the table, I wouldn't be surprised if Ortiz actually makes more money against him compared to Ortiz his fight with Wilder.
Povetkin should easely win that fight, by KO in round 1 or 2.
Maybe let both juicers do their thing and see which 🦖 prevails.
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Re: What's next for Povetkin?
I doubt that.Luis Fernando12 wrote: ↑23 Sep 2018, 09:15Any version of Povetkin would struggle against Huck.dagilechia wrote: ↑23 Sep 2018, 09:09It was worst version of Povetkin and he underestimated prime Huck. Briedis fought past prime Huck.Luis Fernando12 wrote: ↑23 Sep 2018, 09:04
Povetkin arguably lost to Huck mate. Usyk and Breidis did a far better job on that Huck. Povetkin would get embarrassed by Brieidis or Usyk. Usyk would shut him out 12-0 in a mismatch type no contest.
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Re: What's next for Povetkin?
But then, he struggled vs Perezironbeard wrote: ↑23 Sep 2018, 09:16. . . and utterly dominated him.dagilechia wrote: ↑23 Sep 2018, 09:09It was worst version of Povetkin and he underestimated prime Huck. Briedis fought past prime Huck.Luis Fernando12 wrote: ↑23 Sep 2018, 09:04
Povetkin arguably lost to Huck mate. Usyk and Breidis did a far better job on that Huck. Povetkin would get embarrassed by Brieidis or Usyk. Usyk would shut him out 12-0 in a mismatch type no contest.
Usyk would be fighting post prime / juice Povetkin.
Re: What's next for Povetkin?
Rip Van Winkle would be led to believe that Povetkin lost a close fight yesterday, if he woke up and read this drivel.dagilechia wrote: ↑23 Sep 2018, 09:36But then, he struggled vs Perezironbeard wrote: ↑23 Sep 2018, 09:16. . . and utterly dominated him.dagilechia wrote: ↑23 Sep 2018, 09:09
It was worst version of Povetkin and he underestimated prime Huck. Briedis fought past prime Huck.
Usyk would be fighting post prime / juice Povetkin.
Povetkin got destroyed brutally. Nothing in that performance suggests that he can defeat anyone at the top level. Gallant effort, yes. Nothing more.
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Re: What's next for Povetkin?
But You think that Briedis beats Povetkin, don't You?ironbeard wrote: ↑23 Sep 2018, 09:44Rip Van Winkle would be led to believe that Povetkin lost a close fight yesterday, if he woke up and read this drivel.
Povetkin got destroyed brutally. Nothing in that performance suggests that he can defeat anyone at the top level. Gallant effort, yes. Nothing more.
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Re: What's next for Povetkin?
caldo2025 wrote: ↑23 Sep 2018, 00:44Thanks for taking time away from your Povetkin Retirement Party that your hosting tonight to reach out to me. Get back now and make sure there’s no empty chip bowls and there’s still something in the punch bowl bro. My condolences to you and the Povetkin Punks. I’m honestly surprised that I haven’t seen a “Povetkin Was Robbed” post. Lmaooooo. Life is good. Hahaha