The worst possible scenario at the top level HW.

[ValMar]

I hope this will not happen, but, anyway, I am afraid.....

Fury defeats Wilder (December 2018) easily, and after that (April 2019) he loses (by judges robbery) against Joshua.

What do you think ?

[DrDuke]

Yeah, that will suck. I hope, Gypsy King will score so wide decisions against them both, that it won't be possible to rob him.

[ValMar]

Yeah, that will suck. I hope, Gypsy King will score so wide decisions against them both, that it won't be possible to rob him.

Unfortunately, they (the boxing judges) are capable for everything, and Hearn's pocket is very, very deep. I am sure that Fury will have to win at least ten rounds to get a draw.

[DrDuke]

Yeah, that will suck. I hope, Gypsy King will score so wide decisions against them both, that it won't be possible to rob him.

Unfortunately, they (the boxing judges) are capable for everything, and Hearn's pocket is very, very deep. I am sure that Fury will have to win at least ten rounds to get a draw.

Unfortunately indeed, but you can be right. We all should remember Whitaker-Chavez bout.

[ValMar]

Yeah, that will suck. I hope, Gypsy King will score so wide decisions against them both, that it won't be possible to rob him.

Unfortunately, they (the boxing judges) are capable for everything, and Hearn's pocket is very, very deep. I am sure that Fury will have to win at least ten rounds to get a draw.

Unfortunately indeed, but you can be right. We all should remember Whitaker-Chavez bout.

The judges are killing the boxing, step by step, systematicaly. If the hell really exists, it will be full of boxing judges.

[DrDuke]

Unfortunately, they (the boxing judges) are capable for everything, and Hearn's pocket is very, very deep. I am sure that Fury will have to win at least ten rounds to get a draw.

Unfortunately indeed, but you can be right. We all should remember Whitaker-Chavez bout.

The judges are killing the boxing, step by step, systematicaly. If the hell really exists, it will be full of boxing judges.

Well, judges are seemingly just the tools here. Promoters control the situation in a way they need it.

[ironbeard]

Let me get this straight; you two think that watching that gypsy tub of goo bore the world to death squeaking out decisions is the best scenario for boxing?

Quickly . . . Grab each other by the collars and briskly slap each other repeatedly until that crap between your ears is completely purged.

[ValMar]

The worst possible scenario is if Fury wins all rounds fair and square and Wilder receives the decision anyway and all the world realise Wilder is a hypejob scam before AJ faces him.

Sadly, this is quite a realistic scenario of what might happen.

Wilder's team is not so mighty, Hearn is (ODLH, too)...............

[ValMar]

Let me get this straight; you two think that watching that gypsy tub of goo bore the world to death squeaking out decisions is the best scenario for boxing?

Quickly . . . Grab each other by the collars and briskly slap each other repeatedly until that crap between your ears is completely purged.

If you think that gift-decisions are good for boxing, I can not help you..................

[lillywhite14]

The only terrible decision Fury has been involved with in his career was when he got soundly beaten by John McDermott yet got an absolute gift.

Let’s not try and create issues with fights that aren’t actually taking place as speak!

[ironbeard]

Let me get this straight; you two think that watching that gypsy tub of goo bore the world to death squeaking out decisions is the best scenario for boxing?

Quickly . . . Grab each other by the collars and briskly slap each other repeatedly until that crap between your ears is completely purged.

If you think that gift-decisions are good for boxing, I can not help you..................

Wilder is not going to need a gift decision against the gypsy tub of goo.

You two are serious masochists.

[ValMar]

Let me get this straight; you two think that watching that gypsy tub of goo bore the world to death squeaking out decisions is the best scenario for boxing?

Quickly . . . Grab each other by the collars and briskly slap each other repeatedly until that crap between your ears is completely purged.

If you think that gift-decisions are good for boxing, I can not help you..................

Wilder is not going to need a gift decision against the gypsy tub of goo.

You two are serious masochists.

Thanks, it is something new for me, and I am 53.

[ironbeard]

If you think that gift-decisions are good for boxing, I can not help you..................

Wilder is not going to need a gift decision against the gypsy tub of goo.

You two are serious masochists.

Thanks, it is something new for me, and I am 53.

I just hope that the tub of gypsy goo shows up. If he wins, which every top level boxer has a chance of doing vs Wilder, I will give him his due.

After the last three years of his soft shoe clown act, I will believe it is happening when he squeezes his gooeyness through the ropes on December 1, wherever that may end up being.

[sharpei_louis]

The Klitschko fight and the subsequent couple of years have been the biggest positives in Fury's career.

The version of Klitschko that came to the ring that night had a bad case of the yips and couldn't let his shots go for whatever reason. Fury boxed well but against a guy that offered nothing. That was apparent in the Joshua fight as Klitschko knew he couldn't do that again and gave it everything he had.

Prior to that, Fury beat Christian Hammer, a terrible version of Chisora, Joey Abell, and got put down by Steve Cunningham in a war.

The years of inactivity have served to improve his record exponentially to the point where some people think he's the second coming of Ali, comparable to the record of Lewis or Holmes... talk about absence making the heart grow fonder. People are already going on about how he will be robbed when he beats the current champions!

He is tricky enough to make it difficult for Wilder, it just remains to be seen if he can make it sufficiently difficult that Wilder doesn't KO him. If he can awkward his way to a decision, I can't see Fury keeping Joshua from unloading too.

[gilgamesh]

The worst possible scenario at the Top level of HW is for Fury to beat Wilder, dive back into a pile of Cocaine, become a fat sh*t and disappear for another 2 or 3 years.

The best case scenario is for Wilder to knock out Fury, and for us to have a Mega Puncher Heavyweight Battle for the Ages for the Undisputed Heavyweight Title.

[Cojimar 1946]

I think Hrgovic and Dubois may soon be a bigger threat than Wilder

[ValMar]

I think Hrgovic and Dubois may soon be a bigger threat than Wilder

This is off topic, but YES !

[Bard of Boxrec]

The worst possible scenario at the Top level of HW is for Fury to beat Wilder, dive back into a pile of Cocaine, become a fat sh*t and disappear for another 2 or 3 years.

The best case scenario is for Wilder to knock out Fury, and for us to have a Mega Puncher Heavyweight Battle for the Ages for the Undisputed Heavyweight Title.

These fury apologists are quite something . Not sure what it’s going to take to make them understand he’s just not beating wilder or Joshua. Even getting crushed by wilder isn’t going to be enough to stop people thinking ‘sugar ray fury’ is going to dance circles around AJ.

[ValMar]

The worst possible scenario at the Top level of HW is for Fury to beat Wilder, dive back into a pile of Cocaine, become a fat sh*t and disappear for another 2 or 3 years.

The best case scenario is for Wilder to knock out Fury, and for us to have a Mega Puncher Heavyweight Battle for the Ages for the Undisputed Heavyweight Title.

These fury apologists are quite something . Not sure what it’s going to take to make them understand he’s just not beating wilder or Joshua. Even getting crushed by wilder isn’t going to be enough to stop people thinking ‘sugar ray fury’ is going to dance circles around AJ.

I am not "Fury apologist" at all, but I am almost sure that Joshua will be favoured by the judges in the case of facing Fury next year.....And, I am very fond of Joshua, but the real cancer for boxing is his promoter Hearn, and he has a lot of the judges in the his pocket. I don't want to be misunderstood - there are so many gift decisions on the top level recently, in Russia, USA and UK, and this is not the best way to attract the new, young fans (the majority of youngsters will follow UFC/MMA shaits).

[jamamb]

aj and wilder are both cant miss. exactly the type of fun fighters keeping the division healthy

worst thing is iff fury were to come in and bore the pants off everyone with his negative boxing and somehow beat them both. that would be deflating

thankfully not gonna happen, ill be shocked if he doesnt lose to wilder

[Thomastearns]

Wilder is not going to need a gift decision against the gypsy tub of goo.

You two are serious masochists.

Thanks, it is something new for me, and I am 53.

I just hope that the tub of gypsy goo shows up. If he wins, which every top level boxer has a chance of doing vs Wilder, I will give him his due.

After the last three years of his soft shoe clown act, I will believe it is happening when he squeezes his gooeyness through the ropes on December 1, wherever that may end up being.

Some brilliant exchanges there, but there's no reason why what happens in Sin City should lead to any unnecessary paranoia.

Heavyweight boxing because of it's higher knockout percentage is an ultra high risk proposition for influence for any interested promoter / investor / criminal (chose any or all). One punch can see all your carefully paid for 'influence' go down the pan. One loose tongue and it could get even worse (any wonder we see the same faces regularly crop up, year after year).

Tyson Fury is a proven slippery customer, but if he survives 12 rounds against both Wilder and Joshua then he should be declared the winner in both cases regardless of what happens in the fights or whether Elvis and Michael Jackson are at ringside.

In any case there has not been a whiff of a suspicion that Eddie Hearn has been involved in any organised cartel. In fact Hearn is still the new kid in town, tricky maybe, but resolutely staying on the right side of the fence whilst trying to breathe some much needed fresh, clean air into the sport.

Good luck to him.

[adislav123]

Yeah sure, like yesterday when okolie with 3 points off got the decision against matty askin for british cruiser-belt. Do me a favor, watch that fight and explain the sorecards please

[sharpei_louis]

Much as Okolie drove me mad with frustration.... Matty Askin just walked forwards into clinches all night long with out letting anything go.
Okolie at least offered a punch for every five clinches.
I would have been borderline dq-ing Okolie, but he still didn't look like losing a round to a guy who did less than him in every department.

Unfortunately. I was rooting for Askin but you do need to win rounds not just hope your opponent gets so many points taken off you beat him on negative scoring!

[tiny_acres]

The absolute worst thing for the division would be if Wilder wins and terms still can not be met with Joshua.
The division would be held hostage with no definitive #1. The fans would be cheated and boxing loses

[SFW]

I think it's crazy to discount Fury in either match up, when he is sharp his length speed and movement are trouble. More consistent trouble for Wilder than AJ, but Wilder has the odd angles to go with crazy power. He plans to end it on one shot. Deontay would need a KO, Fury is sneaky enough to get 7 rounds for sure. AJ I dunno, getting touched up like he just did makes me think Fury can have success. I think he'll have to deal with heavy bodywork from AJ though too, that may be costly. I can see Wilder being the lowest rated of the three, and still be the most dangerous one. Wild, unpredictable, great power, stamina, finishing skills, chin, and he does all his work in split seconds no warning just boom. No margin for error. But hey I could be wrong. We'll see pretty soon with Fury and Wilder. AJ is ready.