What's next for Povetkin?

[ironbeard]

But then, he struggled vs Perez

Rip Van Winkle would be led to believe that Povetkin lost a close fight yesterday, if he woke up and read this drivel.

Povetkin got destroyed brutally. Nothing in that performance suggests that he can defeat anyone at the top level. Gallant effort, yes. Nothing more.

But You think that Briedis beats Povetkin, don't You?

I think that Povetkin should fight the other ancient HW juicer in Moscow, and retire, no matter the outcome.

[Luis Fernando12]

You have some problems if you compare Takam (B+ HW) with Shimell (nobody, nowhere).

Takam is also a nobody! The only reason why he became a somebody was because Povetkin beat him. When you're getting embarrassed and blasted out of the ring by light hitting Dereck Chisora in ABSOLUTE SPECTACULAR FASHION, then you can't be anything other a nobody.

Takam has been among the top 20 HWs for a years, a solid, tough fighter.

And who has he beaten? A bunch of nobodies, that's who! So thanks for admitting Takam is just as much of a 'nobody' as Jordan Shimmell is.

Difference is, Gassiev literally put a previously UN-KO'ed version of Jordan Shimell to sleep, a guy who never even saw the canvas in his life before, for around 10 minutes in the first round with his FIRST CLEAN PUNCH. Let that sink in!

On the other hand, the lighter hitting Povetkin needed to land 10 rounds of maximum powered punches after maximum powered punches, and needed to paste Takam for ever until he managed to KO him. And even then, despite pasting Takam for far longer and despite landing far more punches, Povetkin still couldn't knock Takam out unconscious for as long as Gassiev knocked Shimmell unconscious.

[Luis Fernando12]

It was worst version of Povetkin and he underestimated prime Huck. Briedis fought past prime Huck.

Any version of Povetkin would struggle against Huck.

I doubt that.

I don't!

Povetkin (AT HIS ABSOLUTE BEST) had to paste a clown and an utter / total scrub that is Carlos Takam with everything for 10 rounds until he KO'ed him. And it was a fight he was losing badly too. Let that sink in!

Marco Huck is LITERALLY on another level compared to that clown Takam. Povetkin would ALWAYS struggle more against Huck, than against Takam.

[dagilechia]

Takam is also a nobody! The only reason why he became a somebody was because Povetkin beat him. When you're getting embarrassed and blasted out of the ring by light hitting Dereck Chisora in ABSOLUTE SPECTACULAR FASHION, then you can't be anything other a nobody.

Takam has been among the top 20 HWs for a years, a solid, tough fighter.

And who has he beaten? A bunch of nobodies, that's who! So thanks for admitting Takam is just as much of a 'nobody' as Jordan Shimmell is.

Difference is, Gassiev literally put a previously UN-KO'ed version of Jordan Shimell to sleep, a guy who never even saw the canvas in his life before, for around 10 minutes in the first round with his FIRST CLEAN PUNCH. Let that sink in!

On the other hand, the lighter hitting Povetkin needed to land 10 rounds of maximum powered punches after maximum powered punches, and needed to paste Takam for ever until he managed to KO him. And even then, despite pasting Takam for far longer and despite landing far more punches, Povetkin still couldn't knock Takam out unconscious for as long as Gassiev knocked Shimmell unconscious.

So Gassiev punches harder than AJ too?

[Luis Fernando12]

Takam has been among the top 20 HWs for a years, a solid, tough fighter.

And who has he beaten? A bunch of nobodies, that's who! So thanks for admitting Takam is just as much of a 'nobody' as Jordan Shimmell is.

Difference is, Gassiev literally put a previously UN-KO'ed version of Jordan Shimell to sleep, a guy who never even saw the canvas in his life before, for around 10 minutes in the first round with his FIRST CLEAN PUNCH. Let that sink in!

On the other hand, the lighter hitting Povetkin needed to land 10 rounds of maximum powered punches after maximum powered punches, and needed to paste Takam for ever until he managed to KO him. And even then, despite pasting Takam for far longer and despite landing far more punches, Povetkin still couldn't knock Takam out unconscious for as long as Gassiev knocked Shimmell unconscious.

So Gassiev punches harder than AJ too?

Gassiev punches harder than Povetkin. I know that much! Povetkin is not that much of a hard hitter. Never was!

[dagilechia]

Any version of Povetkin would struggle against Huck.

I doubt that.

I don't!

Povetkin (AT HIS ABSOLUTE BEST) had to paste a clown and an utter / total scrub that is Carlos Takam with everything for 10 rounds until he KO'ed him. And it was a fight he was losing badly too. Let that sink in!

Marco Huck is LITERALLY on another level compared to that clown Takam. Povetkin would ALWAYS struggle more against Huck, than against Takam.

2 things:

1.Povetkin wasnt losing to Takam, especially not badly. Povetkin landed more. The fight was close though.

2.Your calling the fighters "clowns" is unnacceptable, and it was not the first time you did it.

[dagilechia]

And who has he beaten? A bunch of nobodies, that's who! So thanks for admitting Takam is just as much of a 'nobody' as Jordan Shimmell is.

Difference is, Gassiev literally put a previously UN-KO'ed version of Jordan Shimell to sleep, a guy who never even saw the canvas in his life before, for around 10 minutes in the first round with his FIRST CLEAN PUNCH. Let that sink in!

On the other hand, the lighter hitting Povetkin needed to land 10 rounds of maximum powered punches after maximum powered punches, and needed to paste Takam for ever until he managed to KO him. And even then, despite pasting Takam for far longer and despite landing far more punches, Povetkin still couldn't knock Takam out unconscious for as long as Gassiev knocked Shimmell unconscious.

So Gassiev punches harder than AJ too?

Gassiev punches harder than Povetkin. I know that much! Povetkin is not that much of a hard hitter. Never was!

But AJ never ko'ed someone cold with one punch & put him to sleep. Hell, AJ have never KO'ed Jordan Shimmell!

[dickbelden]

POVETKIN should fight the loser of the FURY vs WILDER fight.

[sharpei_louis]

Usyk destroys Povetkin worse than Joshua did. Seriously, it'd only expose Joshua's win to be even worse.

What on earth are you basing that on?

Usyk hasn't been destroying anyone - he's a beautiful boxer, but Povetkin had good speed and power for a heavyweight and would be very dangerous. I've not seen anything from Usyk to suggest that his power gets Povetkin's respect so easily and he would have a hell of a tough first half of that fight.

[sharpei_louis]

So Gassiev punches harder than AJ too?

Gassiev punches harder than Povetkin. I know that much! Povetkin is not that much of a hard hitter. Never was!

But AJ never ko'ed someone cold with one punch & put him to sleep. Hell, AJ have never KO'ed Jordan Shimmell!

I don't think anyone in the world would accept Jordan Shimmell - at any stage of his career - as being an acceptable opponent for AJ... that may limit his opportunity to prove you wrong! If you're telling me that AJ couldn't KO Shimmell.... then OK
That fight does put Gassiev into perspective a little - I don't see Usyk's record is getting quite as much shine from that victory as is being made out.

[dagilechia]

Gassiev punches harder than Povetkin. I know that much! Povetkin is not that much of a hard hitter. Never was!

But AJ never ko'ed someone cold with one punch & put him to sleep. Hell, AJ have never KO'ed Jordan Shimmell!

I don't think anyone in the world would accept Jordan Shimmell - at any stage of his career - as being an acceptable opponent for AJ... that may limit his opportunity to prove you wrong! If you're telling me that AJ couldn't KO Shimmell.... then OK
That fight does put Gassiev into perspective a little - I don't see Usyk's record is getting quite as much shine from that victory as is being made out.

It was just a sarcastic response to LuisFernando's statement that Gassiev punches harder than Povetkin based on how Murat KTFO Shimmell.

[sharpei_louis]

Sorry! I would like to go back and re-write that so no one sees it!

[dagilechia]

Sorry! I would like to go back and re-write that so no one sees it!

[pound per pound]

He might have one more fight to go out a winner. Its up to him. At age 39, he should hang them up.

He could in theory fight the winner of Fury vs Wilder, if they decide to avoid Joshua.

[Lackeos]

Given the knockout, he should retire. If he lost by decision, I'd say he'd still be useful as an opponent for other top 10 heavyweights like Ortiz, Pulev, Fury, Wilder, Miller, and Whyte. But due to the knockout, he's probably going to need like 7-10 months to get over whatever head injuries he sustained, and then a subsequent 9 months of tune-ups to shake the rust off. By the time all of that passes, he'll be too old. Look at Bryant Jennings's career after the Ortiz loss as an example comeback trail after a KO defeat.

[jujigatame]

I don't think he's going to retire when he can crush some cans in Russia for easy money. He still has a pretty decent sized fan base and his skills looked sharp against AJ for the first 5 rounds.

[Blodhemn]

Povetkin made Joshua look like a bum. Plenty of money to be made if he wants it.

A bum, really? The fight would have been even through 7 IF the Russian had survived. Where in that scenario do you find the evidence that the loser by TKO7 made the winner look like a bum?

Ah another evidence based EO wannabe. The champ was beaten at the midrange game but managed to catch and finish his foe before letting him gain a second wind. Credit for the latter, but I can't overlook the former. Joshua will be troubled by smaller and more skilled foes from here on out. It's an equalizer against these big ass dudes. That's why I feel Usyk will do a number on him.

[ironbeard]

Povetkin made Joshua look like a bum. Plenty of money to be made if he wants it.

A bum, really? The fight would have been even through 7 IF the Russian had survived. Where in that scenario do you find the evidence that the loser by TKO7 made the winner look like a bum?

Ah another evidence based EO wannabe. The champ was beaten at the midrange game but managed to catch and finish his foe before letting him gain a second wind. Credit for the latter, but I can't overlook the former. Joshua will be troubled by smaller and more skilled foes from here on out. It's an equalizer against these big ass dudes. That's why I feel Usyk will do a number on him.

“Evidence based EO wannabe?” Translation por favor.

I just think that there is no place for the word “bum” in relation to AJ. All the relevant “evidence” supports my position.

[Mexi-Box]

A bum, really? The fight would have been even through 7 IF the Russian had survived. Where in that scenario do you find the evidence that the loser by TKO7 made the winner look like a bum?

Ah another evidence based EO wannabe. The champ was beaten at the midrange game but managed to catch and finish his foe before letting him gain a second wind. Credit for the latter, but I can't overlook the former. Joshua will be troubled by smaller and more skilled foes from here on out. It's an equalizer against these big ass dudes. That's why I feel Usyk will do a number on him.

“Evidence based EO wannabe?” Translation por favor.

I just think that there is no place for the word “bum” in relation to AJ. All the relevant “evidence” supports my position.

Bum is a bad choice of words, but Povetkin did make Joshua look like an amateur before gassing.

[ironbeard]

Ah another evidence based EO wannabe. The champ was beaten at the midrange game but managed to catch and finish his foe before letting him gain a second wind. Credit for the latter, but I can't overlook the former. Joshua will be troubled by smaller and more skilled foes from here on out. It's an equalizer against these big ass dudes. That's why I feel Usyk will do a number on him.

“Evidence based EO wannabe?” Translation por favor.

I just think that there is no place for the word “bum” in relation to AJ. All the relevant “evidence” supports my position.

Bum is a bad choice of words, but Povetkin did make Joshua look like an amateur before gassing.

22-0 (21 KOs). The point is this is the professional HW division. Povetkin would have won in the amateurs.

[Ricky]

Surprised anyone cares enough to make a thread.

He's a 40 year old man who improved greatly in the latter part of his career (he was total ass about 6 years ago).

He was clearly a level above AJ for the first 4 or 5 rounds but by r6 he was absolutely gassed & AJ's tank was almost full. He needs to retire, he very clearly can't fight a 12 round fight at top level.

[ironbeard]

Surprised anyone cares enough to make a thread.

He's a 40 year old man who improved greatly in the latter part of his career (he was total ass about 6 years ago).

He was clearly a level above AJ for the first 4 or 5 rounds but by r6 he was absolutely gassed & AJ's tank was almost full. He needs to retire, he very clearly can't fight a 12 round fight at top level.

I agree. If not, bring Ortiz to Moscow for a final tear up, win, lose, or draw.

[Luis Fernando12]

Usyk destroys Povetkin worse than Joshua did. Seriously, it'd only expose Joshua's win to be even worse.

What on earth are you basing that on?

Usyk hasn't been destroying anyone - he's a beautiful boxer, but Povetkin had good speed and power for a heavyweight and would be very dangerous. I've not seen anything from Usyk to suggest that his power gets Povetkin's respect so easily and he would have a hell of a tough first half of that fight.

A heavyweight Usyk would be a more powerful puncher than cruiser weight Usyk.

Usyk has not destroyed his last 2 opponents, because they all have solid chins / durability (UNLIKE Povetkin).

Povetkin's durability and chin was exposed to be severely lacking and vulnerable, every time he faced half decent punchers. Was on the verge of getting stopped by Marco Huck for goodness sake. Was dropped / stopped by the only 3 power punchers he faced in his entire career in Anthony Joshua, David Price and Wladimir Klitschko.

Wladimir Klitschko dropped Povetkin countless number of times and would've starched him, if he decided to let his hands go and decided to not show mercy on Povetkin (which is exactly what he did).

David Price was probably going to BLAST Povetkin out of the ring, had there been more time in the 3rd when he dropped him.

And Joshua hit the nail in the coffin and exposed Povetkin's chin to be totally vulnerable and suspect.

If Marco Huck is stunning Povetkin and was on the verge of stopping Povetkin, then Usyk, who is LITERALLY FAR SUPERIOR skill wise to Marco Huck, would do far worse. Usyk has far more speed, accuracy and punch frequency / variation than Huck. Unlike Huck, Usyk would be landing ton more punches on Povetkin until Povetkin's face literally fell off.

Usyk vs Povetkin is a TOTAL and UTTER mismatch in favor of Usyk.

Povetkin's power was also exposed to be feather fisted multiple times. Couldn't even put a dent in journeymen Andriy Rudenko (a far inferior Ukrainian boxer than Usyk) and Christian Hammer. Couldn't score a single knockdown on either guy after a combined 24 rounds of boxing them. That's how pathetic Povetkin's power is!

Povetkin landed multiple, flush clean punches on suspect chinned Joshua. But his punches just seemed to BOUNCE off Joshua's chin, with very little to no effect. Povetkin literally made Joshua look like he has a granite chin, because of how feather fisted his own punches were in that fight. If Povetkin was at all a threatening power puncher, he would've dropped Joshua at least once with the number of flush punches he landed. It was so alarming to see Povetkin failing to even hurt Joshua. Usyk will walk through Povetkin's weak, feather fisted punches with 0 effect as well.

Usyk has already taken punches from far more powerful punchers than Povetkin is Murat Gassiev (and maybe even Mairis Briedis). And Usyk is still yet to taste the canvas. Povetkin poses almost no threat with his power, if Gassiev failed to even drop him.

And Usyk's speed makes Povetkin look like he exists in slow motion / different time frame. Usyk is not only more skilled than Povektin, but SIGNIFICANTLY more skilled.

[Luis Fernando12]

So Gassiev punches harder than AJ too?

Gassiev punches harder than Povetkin. I know that much! Povetkin is not that much of a hard hitter. Never was!

But AJ never ko'ed someone cold with one punch & put him to sleep. Hell, AJ have never KO'ed Jordan Shimmell!

But this has nothing to do with Joshua. This is a comparison between Gassiev and Povetkin and how Gassiev has superior punching power to Povetkin.

[Luis Fernando12]

I doubt that.

I don't!

Povetkin (AT HIS ABSOLUTE BEST) had to paste a clown and an utter / total scrub that is Carlos Takam with everything for 10 rounds until he KO'ed him. And it was a fight he was losing badly too. Let that sink in!

Marco Huck is LITERALLY on another level compared to that clown Takam. Povetkin would ALWAYS struggle more against Huck, than against Takam.

2 things:

1.Povetkin wasnt losing to Takam, especially not badly. Povetkin landed more. The fight was close though.

2.Your calling the fighters "clowns" is unnacceptable, and it was not the first time you did it.

Losing the first 4 rounds, against a low level heavyweight like Carlos Takam in your home country of Russia, is not only bad, but just flat out embarrassing, humiliating and shameful. So you're right, it's not bad, but far worse.