Keys to victory : Povetkin and Joshua

[Luis Fernando12]

LuisFernando12 you clueless twat! You watxhin? Babblin on ond on column after column about utter & complete nonsemse!

Sorry!

Aj s gonna find his range enough for a disgraceful tko at the earliest possible opportunity they see. Or povetkin really pulls it off!

Povetkin lacks size and strength to qualify as a respectable heavyweight. He could NEVER EVER beat Anthony Joshua because of that reason. One punch from Joshua ended it. Whilst hundreds of punches from Povetkin just bounced off Joshua's body like nothing. Povetkin is a feather fist with no power at this level!

[gilgamesh]

LuisFernando12 you clueless twat! You watxhin? Babblin on ond on column after column about utter & complete nonsemse!

Sorry!

Aj s gonna find his range enough for a disgraceful tko at the earliest possible opportunity they see. Or povetkin really pulls it off!

Povetkin lacks size and strength to qualify as a respectable heavyweight. He could NEVER EVER beat Anthony Joshua because of that reason. One punch from Joshua ended it. Whilst hundreds of punches from Povetkin just bounced off Joshua's body like nothing. Povetkin is a feather fist with no power at this level!

The fact that he was 11 years older played a big part. If the roles were reversed, Joshua were 39 and Povetkin was 28 it would probably have been a different story.

[tiny_acres]

LuisFernando12 you clueless twat! You watxhin? Babblin on ond on column after column about utter & complete nonsemse!

Sorry!

Aj s gonna find his range enough for a disgraceful tko at the earliest possible opportunity they see. Or povetkin really pulls it off!

Povetkin lacks size and strength to qualify as a respectable heavyweight. He could NEVER EVER beat Anthony Joshua because of that reason. One punch from Joshua ended it. Whilst hundreds of punches from Povetkin just bounced off Joshua's body like nothing. Povetkin is a feather fist with no power at this level!

The fact that he was 11 years older played a big part. If the roles were reversed, Joshua were 39 and Povetkin was 28 it would probably have been a different story.

Very good observation. If Povetkin was just 5 years earlier it might have ended differently.
Those that act like 39 is not old for a heavyweight are crazy.

[gilgamesh]

Povetkin lacks size and strength to qualify as a respectable heavyweight. He could NEVER EVER beat Anthony Joshua because of that reason. One punch from Joshua ended it. Whilst hundreds of punches from Povetkin just bounced off Joshua's body like nothing. Povetkin is a feather fist with no power at this level!

The fact that he was 11 years older played a big part. If the roles were reversed, Joshua were 39 and Povetkin was 28 it would probably have been a different story.

Very good observation. If Povetkin was just 5 years earlier it might have ended differently.
Those that act like 39 is not old for a heavyweight are crazy.

It's old for any Professional fighter. Nobody is at their physical peak at 39...or at least they're a rarity if they are.

[Evander]

Povetkin did ok but it looked like Joshua was waiting for him to tire so he could open up.

Joshua waited, because in round 1 he realized how dangerous Sasha was in early rounds.

I agree!

Maybe ... but taking a look at Povetkin enhanced his chances of stoppage him later on.

[Luis Fernando12]

LuisFernando12 you clueless twat! You watxhin? Babblin on ond on column after column about utter & complete nonsemse!

Sorry!

Aj s gonna find his range enough for a disgraceful tko at the earliest possible opportunity they see. Or povetkin really pulls it off!

Povetkin lacks size and strength to qualify as a respectable heavyweight. He could NEVER EVER beat Anthony Joshua because of that reason. One punch from Joshua ended it. Whilst hundreds of punches from Povetkin just bounced off Joshua's body like nothing. Povetkin is a feather fist with no power at this level!

The fact that he was 11 years older played a big part. If the roles were reversed, Joshua were 39 and Povetkin was 28 it would probably have been a different story.

Are you forgetting that 37 year old, past prime and shot Wladimir Klitschko totally dismantled Alexander Povetkin in his come country of Russia? Whilst also carrying him, and avoiding knocking him out in Russia because he didn't want to increase the humiliation of seeing Povetkin brutally KO'ed in front if his own country?

[adislav123]

Povetkin by DQ over Klit should have been the only justifiable outome of that fight. Boxing has rules. Tying up and leaning on your opponent is a clear foul, you get a warning for. Continued fouls result in disqualification. Those are facts.

[ironbeard]

Povetkin lacks size and strength to qualify as a respectable heavyweight. He could NEVER EVER beat Anthony Joshua because of that reason. One punch from Joshua ended it. Whilst hundreds of punches from Povetkin just bounced off Joshua's body like nothing. Povetkin is a feather fist with no power at this level!

The fact that he was 11 years older played a big part. If the roles were reversed, Joshua were 39 and Povetkin was 28 it would probably have been a different story.

Are you forgetting that 37 year old, past prime and shot Wladimir Klitschko totally dismantled Alexander Povetkin in his come country of Russia? Whilst also carrying him, and avoiding knocking him out in Russia because he didn't want to increase the humiliation of seeing Povetkin brutally KO'ed in front if his own country?

Obviously, you have never watched that fight.

[Luis Fernando12]

The fact that he was 11 years older played a big part. If the roles were reversed, Joshua were 39 and Povetkin was 28 it would probably have been a different story.

Are you forgetting that 37 year old, past prime and shot Wladimir Klitschko totally dismantled Alexander Povetkin in his come country of Russia? Whilst also carrying him, and avoiding knocking him out in Russia because he didn't want to increase the humiliation of seeing Povetkin brutally KO'ed in front if his own country?

Obviously, you have never watched that fight.

I did! And I saw Wladimir Klitschko holding back and showing mercy to the blown up light heavyweight that is Alexander Povetkin by carrying him on his back for a ride en-route to the 12 rounds destination.

A committed Wladimir Klitschko would've cleanly and concussively KO'ed Alexander Povetkin by totally incapacitating him via dropping him to the canvas for the 10 count. As opposed to Anthony Joshua's standing TKO stoppage!

[paddy chavez]

Povetkin needs to pressure AJ from the start and fight at a high work rate he's not going to out jab AJ his best bet is come out with effective pressure and catch AJ of course this will leave him open to walking into AJs power and get KOd himself .for AJ pump the jab to soften up provkin the drop the right hand on povetkin . The only way I see AJ tripping up is if he stands and slugs with povetkin and gets caught in an exchange.

Not a bad break down of how it went I think

[ironbeard]

Are you forgetting that 37 year old, past prime and shot Wladimir Klitschko totally dismantled Alexander Povetkin in his come country of Russia? Whilst also carrying him, and avoiding knocking him out in Russia because he didn't want to increase the humiliation of seeing Povetkin brutally KO'ed in front if his own country?

Obviously, you have never watched that fight.

I did! And I saw Wladimir Klitschko holding back and showing mercy to the blown up light heavyweight that is Alexander Povetkin by carrying him on his back for a ride en-route to the 12 rounds destination.

A committed Wladimir Klitschko would've cleanly and concussively KO'ed Alexander Povetkin by totally incapacitating him via dropping him to the canvas for the 10 count. As opposed to Anthony Joshua's standing TKO stoppage!

The ONLY person carrying anyone in that fight was Povetkin literally carrying Wlad on his back for most of the fight. It was a pathetic performance by Wlad that he deserved to be DQed for.

I do not believe you. You have never watched that fight.

[Luis Fernando12]

Obviously, you have never watched that fight.

I did! And I saw Wladimir Klitschko holding back and showing mercy to the blown up light heavyweight that is Alexander Povetkin by carrying him on his back for a ride en-route to the 12 rounds destination.

A committed Wladimir Klitschko would've cleanly and concussively KO'ed Alexander Povetkin by totally incapacitating him via dropping him to the canvas for the 10 count. As opposed to Anthony Joshua's standing TKO stoppage!

The ONLY person carrying anyone in that fight was Povetkin literally carrying Wlad on his back for most of the fight. It was a pathetic performance by Wlad that he deserved to be DQed for.

I do not believe you. You have never watched that fight.

Wladimir Klitschko could have literally KO'ed Povetkin cold (a real clean incapacitating KO and not a standing stoppage like what Joshua got against Povetkin) at any moment he wanted in that fight. But he decided to allow Povetkin to go the distance because he didn't want to humiliate him in his own country and in front of his own fans.

I watched the fight multiple times and I know what I saw. I saw Wlad showing insane amount of mercy to the inferior Russian breed that happens to be Alexander Povetkin.

[tiny_acres]

Obviously, you have never watched that fight.

I did! And I saw Wladimir Klitschko holding back and showing mercy to the blown up light heavyweight that is Alexander Povetkin by carrying him on his back for a ride en-route to the 12 rounds destination.

A committed Wladimir Klitschko would've cleanly and concussively KO'ed Alexander Povetkin by totally incapacitating him via dropping him to the canvas for the 10 count. As opposed to Anthony Joshua's standing TKO stoppage!

The ONLY person carrying anyone in that fight was Povetkin literally carrying Wlad on his back for most of the fight. It was a pathetic performance by Wlad that he deserved to be DQed for.

I do not believe you. You have never watched that fight.

Absolutely should of been dq' d.
Worst impersonation of an octopus in history.
Wlad should of been ashamed

[ironbeard]

I did! And I saw Wladimir Klitschko holding back and showing mercy to the blown up light heavyweight that is Alexander Povetkin by carrying him on his back for a ride en-route to the 12 rounds destination.

A committed Wladimir Klitschko would've cleanly and concussively KO'ed Alexander Povetkin by totally incapacitating him via dropping him to the canvas for the 10 count. As opposed to Anthony Joshua's standing TKO stoppage!

The ONLY person carrying anyone in that fight was Povetkin literally carrying Wlad on his back for most of the fight. It was a pathetic performance by Wlad that he deserved to be DQed for.

I do not believe you. You have never watched that fight.

Wladimir Klitschko could have literally KO'ed Povetkin cold (a real clean incapacitating KO and not a standing stoppage like what Joshua got against Povetkin) at any moment he wanted in that fight. But he decided to allow Povetkin to go the distance because he didn't want to humiliate him in his own country and in front of his own fans.

I watched the fight multiple times and I know what I saw. I saw Wlad showing insane amount of mercy to the inferior Russian breed that happens to be Alexander Povetkin.

That’s funny. You see mercy . . . I saw repeated pathetic violations of the rules that should have resulted in point deductions and a DQ. Different lenses.

AJ actually brutally stopped Povetkin. Wlad did not. That is the reality.

Resume your fantasy.

[Luis Fernando12]

The ONLY person carrying anyone in that fight was Povetkin literally carrying Wlad on his back for most of the fight. It was a pathetic performance by Wlad that he deserved to be DQed for.

I do not believe you. You have never watched that fight.

Wladimir Klitschko could have literally KO'ed Povetkin cold (a real clean incapacitating KO and not a standing stoppage like what Joshua got against Povetkin) at any moment he wanted in that fight. But he decided to allow Povetkin to go the distance because he didn't want to humiliate him in his own country and in front of his own fans.

I watched the fight multiple times and I know what I saw. I saw Wlad showing insane amount of mercy to the inferior Russian breed that happens to be Alexander Povetkin.

That’s funny. You see mercy . . . I saw repeated pathetic violations of the rules that should have resulted in point deductions and a DQ. Different lenses.

AJ actually brutally stopped Povetkin. Wlad did not. That is the reality.

Resume your fantasy.

AJ didn't BRUTALLY stop Povetkin. Brutally stopping someone means, at bare minimum, keeping them down for the 10 count, if not literally knocking them out unconscious. That's not what AJ did. He couldn't even keep a 39 year old ancient Povetkin down for the 10 count. Povetkin got back up every time.

Wladimir Klitschko dropped a younger version of Povetkin just as many times / more times (with glancing blows). But the referee didn't step in prematurely to STOP the fight like the British referee did when AJ dropped Povetkin.

Wladimir Klitschko held back numerous times when he had Povetkin hurt.

[ironbeard]

Wladimir Klitschko could have literally KO'ed Povetkin cold (a real clean incapacitating KO and not a standing stoppage like what Joshua got against Povetkin) at any moment he wanted in that fight. But he decided to allow Povetkin to go the distance because he didn't want to humiliate him in his own country and in front of his own fans.

I watched the fight multiple times and I know what I saw. I saw Wlad showing insane amount of mercy to the inferior Russian breed that happens to be Alexander Povetkin.

That’s funny. You see mercy . . . I saw repeated pathetic violations of the rules that should have resulted in point deductions and a DQ. Different lenses.

AJ actually brutally stopped Povetkin. Wlad did not. That is the reality.

Resume your fantasy.

AJ didn't BRUTALLY stop Povetkin. Brutally stopping someone means, at bare minimum, keeping them down for the 10 count, if not literally knocking them out unconscious. That's not what AJ did. He couldn't even keep a 39 year old ancient Povetkin down for the 10 count. Povetkin got back up every time.

Wladimir Klitschko dropped a younger version of Povetkin just as many times / more times (with glancing blows). But the referee didn't step in prematurely to STOP the fight like the British referee did when AJ dropped Povetkin.

Wladimir Klitschko held back numerous times when he had Povetkin hurt.

You did’nt watch yesterday’s fight either.

[gilgamesh]

Povetkin lacks size and strength to qualify as a respectable heavyweight. He could NEVER EVER beat Anthony Joshua because of that reason. One punch from Joshua ended it. Whilst hundreds of punches from Povetkin just bounced off Joshua's body like nothing. Povetkin is a feather fist with no power at this level!

The fact that he was 11 years older played a big part. If the roles were reversed, Joshua were 39 and Povetkin was 28 it would probably have been a different story.

Are you forgetting that 37 year old, past prime and shot Wladimir Klitschko totally dismantled Alexander Povetkin in his come country of Russia? Whilst also carrying him, and avoiding knocking him out in Russia because he didn't want to increase the humiliation of seeing Povetkin brutally KO'ed in front if his own country?

No. I'm also not forgetting that Wlad was a better fighter than Povetkin ever was.

[gilgamesh]

Wladimir Klitschko could have literally KO'ed Povetkin cold (a real clean incapacitating KO and not a standing stoppage like what Joshua got against Povetkin) at any moment he wanted in that fight. But he decided to allow Povetkin to go the distance because he didn't want to humiliate him in his own country and in front of his own fans.

I watched the fight multiple times and I know what I saw. I saw Wlad showing insane amount of mercy to the inferior Russian breed that happens to be Alexander Povetkin.

That’s funny. You see mercy . . . I saw repeated pathetic violations of the rules that should have resulted in point deductions and a DQ. Different lenses.

AJ actually brutally stopped Povetkin. Wlad did not. That is the reality.

Resume your fantasy.

AJ didn't BRUTALLY stop Povetkin. Brutally stopping someone means, at bare minimum, keeping them down for the 10 count, if not literally knocking them out unconscious. That's not what AJ did. He couldn't even keep a 39 year old ancient Povetkin down for the 10 count. Povetkin got back up every time.

Wladimir Klitschko dropped a younger version of Povetkin just as many times / more times (with glancing blows). But the referee didn't step in prematurely to STOP the fight like the British referee did when AJ dropped Povetkin.

Wladimir Klitschko held back numerous times when he had Povetkin hurt.

So you're saying you would've let the fight continue between AJ and Povetkin after that 2nd knockdown? I'd say that makes you a sadist.

Yes Wlad dropped Povetkin more times than AJ did, but he never had him as badly hurt as AJ did at any point.

[Bard of Boxrec]

Luis Fernando, you seem to have history in thinking that the measure of serious punching power is knocking someone unconscious.

That’s not how boxing works, fights rarely end like that and refs will often stop them before they do. You clearly haven’t seen the wlad/pov fight either.

If you’re new to boxing that’s cool, but you need to stop posting this stuff because it’s just trolling.

[Luis Fernando12]

That’s funny. You see mercy . . . I saw repeated pathetic violations of the rules that should have resulted in point deductions and a DQ. Different lenses.

AJ actually brutally stopped Povetkin. Wlad did not. That is the reality.

Resume your fantasy.

AJ didn't BRUTALLY stop Povetkin. Brutally stopping someone means, at bare minimum, keeping them down for the 10 count, if not literally knocking them out unconscious. That's not what AJ did. He couldn't even keep a 39 year old ancient Povetkin down for the 10 count. Povetkin got back up every time.

Wladimir Klitschko dropped a younger version of Povetkin just as many times / more times (with glancing blows). But the referee didn't step in prematurely to STOP the fight like the British referee did when AJ dropped Povetkin.

Wladimir Klitschko held back numerous times when he had Povetkin hurt.

So you're saying you would've let the fight continue between AJ and Povetkin after that 2nd knockdown? I'd say that makes you a sadist.

Yes Wlad dropped Povetkin more times than AJ did, but he never had him as badly hurt as AJ did at any point.

I'm saying, there should be at least a 3 knockdown rule in boxing, where a boxer has to be dropped at least thrice, before the referee stops the fight, assuming the fighter getting dropped, gets back up to his feet every time.

You could call the referee who allowed Marquez to continue in his first fight against Pacquiao after his second knockdown, a 'saddist' too. But I've seen enough instances of a boxer that is dropped twice, being able to get back up and continuing to box until the end.

Nobody knows for sure, if Povetkin could've continued after the second knockdown, like he did against Wladimir Klitschko after every knockdown. Simply because, the referee did not give us that opportunity to find out!

It's utter speculation that Povetkin was more hurt against Joshua, than against Wladimir Klitschko. Wladimir Klitschko dropped Povetkin thrice in the 7th round, and the referee had even more JUSTIFICATIONS to stop that fight, than the Povetkin - Joshua fight. But he didn't! And Wladimir Klitschko could've cleanly KO'ed Povetkin if he really wanted to in that round. But he held back and chose to carry Povetkin. And this is obvious, by Wladimir Klitschko not letting his hands go when he easily could have. Anyone that can't see this, is simply lacking in observation skills.

[Luis Fernando12]

The fact that he was 11 years older played a big part. If the roles were reversed, Joshua were 39 and Povetkin was 28 it would probably have been a different story.

Are you forgetting that 37 year old, past prime and shot Wladimir Klitschko totally dismantled Alexander Povetkin in his come country of Russia? Whilst also carrying him, and avoiding knocking him out in Russia because he didn't want to increase the humiliation of seeing Povetkin brutally KO'ed in front if his own country?

No. I'm also not forgetting that Wlad was a better fighter than Povetkin ever was.

So is Anthony Joshua! Since both Wlad and Joshua are legit SUPER HEAVYWEIGHT specimens. Whilst Povetkin is just a fat, chubby, pudgy, obese and overweight little pudding that really is just a BLOWN UP cruiser weight at best, if not a light heavyweight.

Povetkin would NEVER EVER be a better heavyweight than Joshua or Wlad. Irrespective of age! Simply because, his lack of size disqualifies him from being so.. When you're carrying that much fat and flabs in your body, and are that low - skilled to boot, and are that short in height and reach, then forget it! Age isn't going to magically make a difference!

A past prime Wladimir Klitschko dismantled Povetkin and would've starched him if he really wanted to. Joshua would also have done the same thing to a young Povetkin too.

Povetkin's lack of power and durability was MASSIVELY exposed against both Wlad and Joshua.

Povetkin's chances of beating Joshua, would ALWAYS be the same as the chances of Vasyl Lomachenko beating Errol Spence Jr.

These two don't, and never should belong in the same weight division, never mind in the same ring.

Povetkin might have slightly more skills pound for pound. But that won't matter, because he is not a legitimate heavyweight (as proven against Wlad and Joshua) and the skill advantage isn't significant enough.

[Luis Fernando12]

That’s funny. You see mercy . . . I saw repeated pathetic violations of the rules that should have resulted in point deductions and a DQ. Different lenses.

AJ actually brutally stopped Povetkin. Wlad did not. That is the reality.

Resume your fantasy.

AJ didn't BRUTALLY stop Povetkin. Brutally stopping someone means, at bare minimum, keeping them down for the 10 count, if not literally knocking them out unconscious. That's not what AJ did. He couldn't even keep a 39 year old ancient Povetkin down for the 10 count. Povetkin got back up every time.

Wladimir Klitschko dropped a younger version of Povetkin just as many times / more times (with glancing blows). But the referee didn't step in prematurely to STOP the fight like the British referee did when AJ dropped Povetkin.

Wladimir Klitschko held back numerous times when he had Povetkin hurt.

You did’nt watch yesterday’s fight either.

I did! And I saw Joshua not knocking Povetkin out unconscious or even totally incapacitating him, to the point where he couldn't get back up at all. Joshua needed the referee to stop the fight!

That, is far from what I consider a 'BRUTAL' stoppage.

This is what I call a 'BRUTAL' stoppage:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VoBcr-NMT7I

Go to 1:25 of the video to see the 'brutal' stoppage!

Unless you can fill me in the gaps of what I might have not seen in the Povetkin - Joshua fight by showing me Joshua putting Povetkin to sleep. Can you do that for me?

[Mexi-Box]

I did! And I saw Wladimir Klitschko holding back and showing mercy to the blown up light heavyweight that is Alexander Povetkin by carrying him on his back for a ride en-route to the 12 rounds destination.

A committed Wladimir Klitschko would've cleanly and concussively KO'ed Alexander Povetkin by totally incapacitating him via dropping him to the canvas for the 10 count. As opposed to Anthony Joshua's standing TKO stoppage!

The ONLY person carrying anyone in that fight was Povetkin literally carrying Wlad on his back for most of the fight. It was a pathetic performance by Wlad that he deserved to be DQed for.

I do not believe you. You have never watched that fight.

Wladimir Klitschko could have literally KO'ed Povetkin cold (a real clean incapacitating KO and not a standing stoppage like what Joshua got against Povetkin) at any moment he wanted in that fight. But he decided to allow Povetkin to go the distance because he didn't want to humiliate him in his own country and in front of his own fans.

I watched the fight multiple times and I know what I saw. I saw Wlad showing insane amount of mercy to the inferior Russian breed that happens to be Alexander Povetkin.

You've not watched the fight, stop lying. If Klitschko was so dominant, why did he listerally turn and run from Povetkin in the 12th when Povetkin escaped one of his clinches. He was afraid of an actual fight breaking out.

[Luis Fernando12]

The ONLY person carrying anyone in that fight was Povetkin literally carrying Wlad on his back for most of the fight. It was a pathetic performance by Wlad that he deserved to be DQed for.

I do not believe you. You have never watched that fight.

Wladimir Klitschko could have literally KO'ed Povetkin cold (a real clean incapacitating KO and not a standing stoppage like what Joshua got against Povetkin) at any moment he wanted in that fight. But he decided to allow Povetkin to go the distance because he didn't want to humiliate him in his own country and in front of his own fans.

I watched the fight multiple times and I know what I saw. I saw Wlad showing insane amount of mercy to the inferior Russian breed that happens to be Alexander Povetkin.

You've not watched the fight, stop lying. If Klitschko was so dominant, why did he listerally turn and run from Povetkin in the 12th when Povetkin escaped one of his clinches. He was afraid of an actual fight breaking out.

The inferior Russian breed, Povetkin, was on the verge of getting slaughtered by his superior Ukrainian master / god, in the 7th round when he was dropped thrice. But Wladimir Klitschko showed mercy by taking his foot off the gas.

Povetkin is simply not cut out from the same cloth as superior Ukrainian boxers like Wladimir Klitschko and Oleksandr Usyk (and even Oleksandr Gvozdyk, who could arguably beat him). Nor would he EVER be a legitimate threat to ELITE super heavyweights like Anthony Joshua or Wladimir Klitschko.

Povetkin is the biggest deception of the heavyweight division. In reality, he is at Dereck Chisora's level at best.

[dagilechia]

Gvozdyk arguably beats Povetkin