wilder - fury

[man]

who you got?

[Ricky]

Deontay Wilder by early ko.

[snake33]

Fury will clearly win the early rounds. He has enough speed and movement right now to out juke Wilder for a while.

After that it depends on how the early rounds go. If Fury is boxing but it's hard, then he will be careful the whole way
and make it the distance. That doesn't mean the judges will give him a decision, they probably won't. In fact Fury is
best off if he loses by a questionable decision. Then he has rematch money with two guys and he can talk about
being 'the peoples champ'.

However, if the early rounds are too easy. Fury will start goofing off and get KTFO.

[adislav123]

Easy fight for the gypsy. I admit to intensely disliking the bronze bomber and his crew. Sadly Ortiz, being the first excellent boxer/real test deontay faced, got carried away, swinging for the fences, having wilder out on his feet, he got caught with a desperate lucky punch & waived off, him dominating up to that point, deserved a rematch for sure but of course no chance in hell he would get it. Now fury will box circles around wilder, who will land absolutely nothing and nowhere except air & occasionally fury's gloves. I'm absolutely shure fury will have no problem putting a hiding on wilder that will rule out success of any corrupt machinations whatsoever. Wilder may prove me wrong by landing a lucky one on a showboating fury, then they will waive it off as fast as they can, but i don't think so.

[jamamb]

wilder ko

[man]

i for one am very mixed on this one.
wilder really did not look good against
ortiz and where tyson stands is still very
unclear, at least to me.

wilder finally meets top notch opposition.
ortiz was already a top five fighter, but he
was 38 at the time they met, so definitely
not in his prime.

to me this is the critical fight for both men
and since both are huge and technically
solid, psychology might play a big role.
wilder has been protected for a long time
and he knows it, fury on the other hand had
a kind of nervous break down.

this fight could be something weird or special,
but i doubt, it will be boring.

for the record i had predicted fury would not
return to top level. he did, i was wrong.

[tiny_acres]

Wilder wins within 3 rounds by brutal knock out

[sharpei_louis]

For all Fury's mental fragility outside the ring, he 100% believes in himself inside the ropes and I think even if he hadn't trained he would genuinely back himself to win.

[SenorPipino]

If Fury fights Wilder as frightened as he fought Klitschko, it will go 12 monotonous rounds to a Wilder decision.

The judges won't reward Fury for sleepwalking.

But if Fury actually shows some fire (a longshot) he'll begin to run out of gas by the 5th round.

I know that many Fury supporters see him as the defensive equal of a Mayweather or Benitez, but he never looks quite that good to me. I have a hunch that Wilder will tag him with little difficulty as the rounds pass.

And once the big fellas' tank begins to empty, Wilder will tee off, catch him easily, and one of his famed windmill shots will eventually level Fury for the count.

Wilder within 7.

[ewenhay]

If Fury fights Wilder as frightened as he fought Klitschko, it will go 12 monotonous rounds to a Wilder decision.

The judges won't reward Fury for sleepwalking.

But if Fury actually shows some fire (a longshot) he'll begin to run out of gas by the 5th round.

I know that many Fury supporters see him as the defensive equal of a Mayweather or Benitez, but he never looks quite that good to me. I have a hunch that Wilder will tag him with little difficulty as the rounds pass.

And once the big fellas' tank begins to empty, Wilder will tee off, catch him easily, and one of his famed windmill shots will eventually level Fury for the count.

Wilder within 7.

Are there two Deontay Wilders?

You're not describing any Wilder performance that I've ever seen.

As much as people over rate Fury, this equally applies to Wilder who seems to be seen as some boxing genius after surviving the Ortiz ordeal.

[adislav123]

If Fury fights Wilder as frightened as he fought Klitschko, it will go 12 monotonous rounds to a Wilder decision.

The judges won't reward Fury for sleepwalking.

But if Fury actually shows some fire (a longshot) he'll begin to run out of gas by the 5th round.

I know that many Fury supporters see him as the defensive equal of a Mayweather or Benitez, but he never looks quite that good to me. I have a hunch that Wilder will tag him with little difficulty as the rounds pass.

And once the big fellas' tank begins to empty, Wilder will tee off, catch him easily, and one of his famed windmill shots will eventually level Fury for the count.

Wilder within 7.

And then you woke up and your bedside locker was pregnant.

[SenorPipino]

That wasn't my bedside locker, mate.

That was Fury himself.

But I can understand the confusion

[Best Coast]

Wilder's best chance is for an early KO since both times when Fury has been on the canvas was early in the fight, The longer the fight goes the better Fury's chances. If he can lean on Wilder with that massive frame and wear him down he could tire Deontay out enough to win a boring decision. Steve Cunningham dropped Fury in the 2nd round and Neven Pajkic had him down in the 2nd of their 2011 bout, but Fury came back to stop both.




Although they were 5-7 years ago, I'll go with Wilder by KO within the first 4 rounds.

[man]

If Fury fights Wilder as frightened as he fought Klitschko, it will go 12 monotonous rounds to a Wilder decision.

The judges won't reward Fury for sleepwalking.

But if Fury actually shows some fire (a longshot) he'll begin to run out of gas by the 5th round.

I know that many Fury supporters see him as the defensive equal of a Mayweather or Benitez, but he never looks quite that good to me. I have a hunch that Wilder will tag him with little difficulty as the rounds pass.

And once the big fellas' tank begins to empty, Wilder will tee off, catch him easily, and one of his famed windmill shots will eventually level Fury for the count.

Wilder within 7.

And then you woke up and your bedside locker was pregnant.

[drunkenpiper36]

I’m going With Wilder. He’s not going to fight scared as an aging Klitschko did, but contrarily go in there to land big shots. While this may prove dangerous to himself, he at least survived the power of Luis Ortiz and Bermane Stiverne. Fury was decked by Steve Cunningham and hasn’t faced a serious opponent in years...

[ewenhay]

Everybody who doesn't like Fury still talks about the knockdown against Steve Cunningham repeatedly like it has any relevance which it doesn't.

Did the Steve Cunningham knockdown stop him beating Chisora or Klitschko? No.

Will the Steve Cunningham knock down have any bearing on this fight? No.

If Wilder stops Fury it will be down to Wilder and will have nothing to do with any past knock down against Steve Cunningham.

[Ilya Muromets]

Wilder's best chance is for an early KO since both times when Fury has been on the canvas was early in the fight, The longer the fight goes the better Fury's chances. If he can lean on Wilder with that massive frame and wear him down he could tire Deontay out enough to win a boring decision. Steve Cunningham dropped Fury in the 2nd round and Neven Pajkic had him down in the 2nd of their 2011 bout, but Fury came back to stop both.




Although they were 5-7 years ago, I'll go with Wilder by KO within the first 4 rounds.

I never saw that Fury-Pajkic fight! I just watched the final round three after seeing round 2. The British ref made a bs stoppage with only 15 seconds left. Pajkic never lost a fight other than this screw job loss. I wonder why he stopped fighting in 2012.

[jamamb]

is there any footage of sconiers dropping wilder? i heard it wasa pretty good knockdown, curious to see it

[Ilya Muromets]

is there any footage of sconiers dropping wilder? i heard it wasa pretty good knockdown, curious to see it

That is yet another Wilder one they scrubbed off the internet! He's got some big money backers. I don't have the footage but i have a still of Wilder on his ass that i saved.

[candyslim]

Way too soon for Fury in my opinion. He should have proved his worth against rated opposition instead of a has-been like Pianeta and a never-was like Seferi. I've no doubt Fury thinks he can win but unless his reflexes and concentration are as good as ever I think he's likely to get starched.

Of course there is a very real danger that if Fury did as I suggested and got wins over say Ruiz and Jennings, that Wilder might lose his enthusiasm for the fight. It pisses me off how people give Wilder credit for taking on such a fearsome opponent as Fury who's suffered mental health issues, massive weight gain/ weight loss, taken drugs, booze, binging and hasn't had a fight worthy of the description in three years. Wilder you hero you.

[Ossyrules]

This is a funny fight to predict.

Wilder is way inferior boxer to fury

But wilders power on fury’s pretty average chin means good night

So can fury stay out the way for 12....

Added factor is what level is fury at after his lay off. Fighting vs sub standard opponents is no gauge. David haye comeback is a recent enough example to tell us this. Looked great vs de mori, but vs a live opponent it was clear he was a shot fighter. And fighting 2 small guys is no prep for a 6ft 7 banger

Prediction is that fury will stay out the way, till probably the middle rounds. Could even be 5-1 or 6-0 up tbh, but I can’t see wilder not keep trying to pull the trigger like Wlad did, and with them crazy angles he windmills from, I’d say the percentage bet is one will land and put the gypsy king over and out.

Could be a herol Graham vs Julian Jackson type fight

[Boxerbeetle]

Everybody who doesn't like Fury still talks about the knockdown against Steve Cunningham repeatedly like it has any relevance which it doesn't.

Did the Steve Cunningham knockdown stop him beating Chisora or Klitschko? No.

Will the Steve Cunningham knock down have any bearing on this fight? No.

If Wilder stops Fury it will be down to Wilder and will have nothing to do with any past knock down against Steve Cunningham.

That’s a strange way of looking at things. One of the best ways to predict fights is to look at a boxer’s past performances and identity his strengths & weaknesses.

Getting knocked down by Cunningham & Pajkic certainly doesn’t mean that Fury will lose to Wilder, but it does suggest a vulnerability to big overhand rights. Which is exactly the punch Wilder will be swinging.

[ewenhay]

Everybody who doesn't like Fury still talks about the knockdown against Steve Cunningham repeatedly like it has any relevance which it doesn't.

Did the Steve Cunningham knockdown stop him beating Chisora or Klitschko? No.

Will the Steve Cunningham knock down have any bearing on this fight? No.

If Wilder stops Fury it will be down to Wilder and will have nothing to do with any past knock down against Steve Cunningham.

That’s a strange way of looking at things. One of the best ways to predict fights is to look at a boxer’s past performances and identity his strengths & weaknesses.

Getting knocked down by Cunningham & Pajkic certainly doesn’t mean that Fury will lose to Wilder, but it does suggest a vulnerability to big overhand rights. Which is exactly the punch Wilder will be swinging.

Absolutely agree its a potential vulnerability.

My issue is more with the continual lazy posts saying 'Fury was dropped by Cunningham so he'll definitely get knocked out by x or y'

[candyslim]

I don't see why that is lazy posting.

Fury was dropped by non-puncher Pajkic, and cruiser weight Cunningham, there's no getting away from it. Admittedly like Wlad before him, Fury has since adopted a less aggressive, safety first style, which appears to have made him much less vulnerable to getting caught and dropped by nothing-special hitters, at the expense of losing his own punching power as a trade-off. It has paid dividends.

This only serves to disguise the fact that Fury's chin is not at the level of his boxing ability, and Wilder is not by any stretch of the imagination a "nothing-special hitter". Klitschko wasn't either but the difference is Fury's reflexes and powers of concentration were second to none at that time because he was fighting regularly, living right, and generally at the top of his game.

Tyson you're prostituting your status as the lineal champion never beaten in the ring, and a massive unification payout against Joshua by rushing back, when you're 80% to take on a task you can complete successfully if you're 95%+

If I'm wrong (and I do hope I am) then I will be back here with an apology, but I think you are fool to take on Wilder this year.

[lillywhite14]

Am I the only one who thinks Fury can stop Wilder?

He can wear him down. Fury has always been active in his fights and has a good output. He can last a decent pace for the full 12. Throw in his significant weight advantage and he could drain Wilder before stopping him late