Canelo Alvarez-Gennady Golovkin rematch sold 1.1 million PPV buys

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Canelo Alvarez-Gennady Golovkin rematch sold 1.1 million PPV buys

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The rematch between Canelo Alvarez and Gennady Golovkin on Sept. 15 at the T-Mobile Arena in Las Vegas sold approximately 1.1 million pay-per-view buys, multiple industry sources have told ESPN.

That means the fight, a razor-close majority decision victory for Alvarez (50-1-2, 34 KOs) to lift the unified middleweight world title from Golovkin (38-1-1, 34 KOs), generated at least $94 million in domestic linear television sales for the HBO PPV telecast, which had a suggested retail price of $84.95 but had a higher price in most markets for those who ordered in high definition.

The pay-per-view figure was less than the first fight, a massively controversial draw last September, which generated about 1.3 million buys. However, the rematch generated more pay-per-view money because of the higher price of the telecast.

Golden Boy Promotions declined to discuss the figures. HBO cannot release pay-per-view figures without the consent of the lead promoter of the event.

"We will not be releasing overall figures for the fight, but between a terrific gate, a very successful linear (television) pay-per-view buy rate and an explosion in digital pay-per-view sales, Canelo-Golovkin II was a more successful event than its predecessor," Golden Boy said in a statement given to ESPN.

Golden Boy officials said that pay-per-view sales via streaming services was 25 percent more than last year's fight. Additional money was also generated via closed circuit television sales, tickets to see the fight in more than 450 movie theaters around the United States, international television sales, sponsorship deals and fight merchandise.

The live gate figures were released on Monday by the Nevada State Athletic Commission and the fight notched the fourth biggest in boxing and Nevada history. The fight generated $23,473,500 from the sale of 16,732 tickets at the T-Mobile Arena in Las Vegas. The promoters gave away 1,451 complimentary tickets, according to the commission report.

The gate figure for Alvarez-Golovkin II places it behind the first fight last September, also at T-Mobile Arena, which generated $27,059,850 in tickets sales.

The all-time biggest gate was the $72,198,500 for Floyd Mayweather-Manny Pacquiao in 2015 at the MGM Grand Garden Arena in Las Vegas followed by a gate of $55,414,865.79 for Mayweather-Conor McGregor in August 2017 at T-Mobile Arena.

Alvarez, the No. 1 pay-per-view attraction of the post Mayweather/Pacquiao era, has been involved in several pay-per-view events to sell at least 1 million units, including both Golovkin fights as well as bouts with Julio Cesar Chavez Jr. and Mayweather. Alvarez's victory over Miguel Cotto to win the middleweight title for the first time in 2015 did about 900,000 buys.
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Less sales than the first fight.
Canelo has no options for a huge ppv excluding a third fight with GGG.
Who else is he going to draw 1 million buys with? People are growing old of controversy
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So all in all.. The live gate was less than the first bout. However the PPV generated more money, even though there was less buys..

So that's because prices where higher..

So really, the PPV was as successful, if not more successful than the first bout.

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The first bout, the live gate was $27,059,850 from 17,318 tickets sold. 934 complimentary tickets given out, according to the NSAC.

The rematch was $23,473,500 from the sale of 16,732 tickets. The promoters gave away 1,451 complimentary tickets, according to the commission report.
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tiny_acres wrote: 25 Sep 2018, 10:05 Less sales than the first fight.
Canelo has no options for a huge ppv excluding a third fight with GGG.
Who else is he going to draw 1 million buys with? People are growing old of controversy
1.1 million is good, seeing as the PPV price was higher than the first bout. Imagine it was the same price as the first bout? More people would have bought it. The fact that less people bought it, they STILL made more money!

It generated $94 million.. According to ESPN, more than the first bout.
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Ruthless-RKO wrote: 25 Sep 2018, 10:08
tiny_acres wrote: 25 Sep 2018, 10:05 Less sales than the first fight.
Canelo has no options for a huge ppv excluding a third fight with GGG.
Who else is he going to draw 1 million buys with? People are growing old of controversy
1.1 million is good, seeing as the PPV price was higher than the first bout. Imagine it was the same price as the first bout? More people would have bought it. The fact that less people bought it, they STILL made more money!

It generated $94 million.. According to ESPN, more than the first bout.
I acknowledge that.
But I stick by my opinion that Canelo's ppv buys will continue to drop as long as controversy follows.
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tiny_acres wrote: 25 Sep 2018, 10:09 I acknowledge that.
But I stick by my opinion that Canelo's ppv buys will continue to drop as long as controversy follows.
I reckon a third fight hit's less than 1 million, regardless of price.
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spells: number three is already in the
making. most likely at another venue.
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And I was predicting about 2 million, based on the theory that controversy sells. Way off, even if the numbers are later readjusted upwards, as usually happens.

It was certainly hyped much better than the first fight. That was a tepid promotion, with the fighters having little interesting to say during the buildup.

This one was all name calling, accusations and disrespect. I think that far more fans were aware of the bout this time.

Any boxing PPV that generates more than 1 million sales is a success.

But this should have done better.
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SenorPipino wrote: 25 Sep 2018, 14:34 And I was predicting about 2 million, based on the theory that controversy sells. Way off, even if the numbers are later readjusted upwards, as usually happens.

It was certainly hyped much better than the first fight. That was a tepid promotion, with the fighters having little interesting to say during the buildup.

This one was all name calling, accusations and disrespect. I think that far more fans were aware of the bout this time.

Any boxing PPV that generates more than 1 million sales is a success.

But this should have done better.
Generated more money from less buys. Due to price. More than a success.
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Fans aren’t going to stick around and pay for bad decisions. Canelo is no Floyd because even with favorable judging, Floyd clearly won most of his fights. Canelo should have 3 more losses on his record and no one wants to pay money to see it happen again. F u Oscar.
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When predictions by Oscar and the "EXPERTS" all suggest it is a 2 million buy fight.
1.1 million is a flop. Sorry but it did not come close to the expectations
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dont even mention oscar, he always wildly exaggerates, says so much nonsense

i think it did okay, almost was 100m in ppv money and made more ppv money then the first, maybe expectations were higher, but it was never a 2m fight, ppl need to realize how rare that is with no floyd
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tiny_acres wrote: 26 Sep 2018, 14:49 When predictions by Oscar and the "EXPERTS" all suggest it is a 2 million buy fight.
1.1 million is a flop. Sorry but it did not come close to the expectations
The All Time record was less than 1 Million buys not too terribly long ago. I'd say anything that does over 1 Million buys especially at 85 bucks a pop is doing pretty goddamn good.

That's over 90 Million dollars. On PPV sales alone.

If 90 Million isn't enough for a successful promotion, then what the hell is?
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gilgamesh wrote: 26 Sep 2018, 15:08
tiny_acres wrote: 26 Sep 2018, 14:49 When predictions by Oscar and the "EXPERTS" all suggest it is a 2 million buy fight.
1.1 million is a flop. Sorry but it did not come close to the expectations
The All Time record was less than 1 Million buys not too terribly long ago. I'd say anything that does over 1 Million buys especially at 85 bucks a pop is doing pretty goddamn good.

That's over 90 Million dollars. On PPV sales alone.
ya, it is, that almost 100m in ppv sales

numbers like 2m are exceptionally rare and involved even bigger draws then canelo
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jamamb wrote: 26 Sep 2018, 15:07 dont even mention oscar, he always wildly exaggerates, says so much nonsense

i think it did okay, almost was 100m in ppv money and made more ppv money then the first, maybe expectations were higher, but it was never a 2m fight, ppl need to realize how rare that is with no floyd
I agree that 2 million is Floyd numbers and Floyd numbers only at this point.
And Oscar doesn't exaggerate. He flat out lies :TU:
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tiny_acres wrote: 26 Sep 2018, 15:10
jamamb wrote: 26 Sep 2018, 15:07 dont even mention oscar, he always wildly exaggerates, says so much nonsense

i think it did okay, almost was 100m in ppv money and made more ppv money then the first, maybe expectations were higher, but it was never a 2m fight, ppl need to realize how rare that is with no floyd
I agree that 2 million is Floyd numbers and Floyd numbers only at this point.
And Oscar doesn't exaggerate. He flat out lies :TU:
I'm pretty sure with No Floyd it's never been done ever. Only Floyd has PPV buys that exceed 2 Mil that I recall. If I'm wrong I'd be happy for someone to point it out.
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Your looking at an estimated 2.5 million buys for Conor on Oct 6th.
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LOL. ODLH thought Canelo-Khan would do around 2m aswel.
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gilgamesh wrote: 26 Sep 2018, 15:08
tiny_acres wrote: 26 Sep 2018, 14:49 When predictions by Oscar and the "EXPERTS" all suggest it is a 2 million buy fight.
1.1 million is a flop. Sorry but it did not come close to the expectations
The All Time record was less than 1 Million buys not too terribly long ago. I'd say anything that does over 1 Million buys especially at 85 bucks a pop is doing pretty goddamn good.

That's over 90 Million dollars. On PPV sales alone.

If 90 Million isn't enough for a successful promotion, then what the hell is?
Half of that goes to networks. 45 mil just on PPV is still very good.
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Ruthless-RKO wrote: 26 Sep 2018, 16:34 LOL. ODLH thought Canelo-Khan would do around 2m aswel.
He probably doesn't actually believe that sh*t. He just REALLY hopes it will.
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