Victor Ortiz vs. John Molina - September 30, 2018

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Expect fireworks when former welterweight champion "Vicious'' Victor Ortiz meets hard-hitting former title challenger John Molina Jr. on Sunday, September 30 in the 12-round main event of Premier Boxing Champions on FS1 and FOX Deportes live from Citizens Business Bank Arena in Ontario, California.

Televised coverage begins at 9 p.m. ET/6 p.m. PT and will feature a stacked lineup of undercard attractions leading up to the action-packed main event.

Tickets for the event, which is promoted by TGB Promotions and Ringstar Sports, go on sale tomorrow, August 24 at 12 p.m. PT and can be purchased at Ticketmaster.com.

Ortiz (32-6-3, 25 KOs) is an all-action boxer-puncher who comes to fight and is always in exciting battles. The 31-year-old southpaw has one of the best resumes of anyone in the welterweight division having been in against Floyd Mayweather, Andre Berto twice, Lamont Peterson, Luis Collazo and Marcos Maidana. Ortiz, who was born in Garden City, Kansas and now lives in Ventura, California, is coming off a majority draw against Devon Alexander in February.

Molina (30-7, 24 KOs) has never backed down from a challenge and has been in the ring with some of the best boxers from lightweight to welterweight during his career. The 35-year-old from Covina, California beat a fierce Ruslan Provodnikov by unanimous decision in 2016. Another standout battle from Molina's career saw him drop former welterweight champion Lucas Matthysse twice before losing on an 11th round knockout. In his last fight he scored a fourth round TKO victory over Ivan Redkach in a back-and-forth bout from December on FS1.

[jamamb]

john molinas real name is john steven? i didnt know that

hard to believe ortiz only just turned 31, been a pro for almost half his life now

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john molinas real name is john steven? i didnt know that

hard to believe ortiz only just turned 31, been a pro for almost half his life now

These kinda calibre fights are the ones thst turn out with some excitement. Ortiz should take this. Shame he never reached his full potential. At 31, unfortnately, he’s likely finished at top level. But wins against guys like Molina may put him title opportunities.

Unless, he’s in a ‘who needs him club’ which I doubt. Surely, Spence, Porter, Garcia, Thurman all believe they can easily beat Ortiz.

[gilgamesh]

john molinas real name is john steven? i didnt know that

hard to believe ortiz only just turned 31, been a pro for almost half his life now

These kinda calibre fights are the ones thst turn out with some excitement. Ortiz should take this. Shame he never reached his full potential. At 31, unfortnately, he’s likely finished at top level. But wins against guys like Molina may put him title opportunities.

Unless, he’s in a ‘who needs him club’ which I doubt. Surely, Spence, Porter, Garcia, Thurman all believe they can easily beat Ortiz.

I'm not so sure Molina can't beat him.

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I'm not so sure Molina can't beat him.

I guess that’s what makes it better..

[SenorPipino]

Not really a high profile bout. Neither guy is ever going to be a world champion.

But it still figures to be an entertaining brawl. They both will come to fight.

Right now I haven't figured out who will win.

[gilgamesh]

Not really a high profile bout. Neither guy is ever going to be a world champion.

But it still figures to be an entertaining brawl. They both will come to fight.

Right now I haven't figured out who will win.

Ortiz is lighter on his feet, but Molina hits hard enough to drop anybody in his weight class, and we all know Ortiz has a tendency to quit once he's been cracked hard.

He's officially done it twice in bouts, and technically done it 3 times. Against Luis Collazo he went down, and looked like he clearly COULD'VE gotten up, and just didn't.

He showed heart in the 1st Andre Berto bout, but basically no other time that I can recall has he ever shown heart like that.

[SenorPipino]

Not really a high profile bout. Neither guy is ever going to be a world champion.

But it still figures to be an entertaining brawl. They both will come to fight.

Right now I haven't figured out who will win.

Ortiz is lighter on his feet, but Molina hits hard enough to drop anybody in his weight class, and we all know Ortiz has a tendency to quit once he's been cracked hard.

He's officially done it twice in bouts, and technically done it 3 times. Against Luis Collazo he went down, and looked like he clearly COULD'VE gotten up, and just didn't.

He showed heart in the 1st Andre Berto bout, but basically no other time that I can recall has he ever shown heart like that.

That's an accurate appraisal all the way around.

I guess I've never liked Molina's style. He always appears stiff and robotic.

But he usually gives a better effort in fights where he encounters adversity than Ortiz.

Ortiz might dog it if he's not in control.

Molina might get hurt but he doesn't quit. He fights back.

Except, however, for that strangely passive performance against Broner where Molina did next to nothing and never appeared interested in fighting.

But he did have those gutsy performances against Redkach and Provodnikov in recent years, so he still appears interested in fighting.

I thought that Ortiz appeared very faded in his fortunate draw with Alexander.

He seemed to have trouble getting his punches off and the ones that did land carried little power.

So he might be ripe for a retirement fight.

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BxNtn have picked this up in the UK.

Looks like DeGale will be shown on telly.

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Don’t know what this means for his fight..

[tiny_acres]

Don’t know what this means for his fight..

Rumored to be cancelled later today

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Don’t know what this means for his fight..

Rumored to be cancelled later today

Is the event still going ahead?

[tiny_acres]

Don’t know what this means for his fight..

Rumored to be cancelled later today

Is the event still going ahead?

I've seen numerous RUMORS on other forums.
The card appears to be going ahead and a few fighters are RUMORED to have been contacted as replacement

[DrDuke]

Don’t know what this means for his fight..

Probably Ortiz meant, that he was going to fukk Molina!

[SenorPipino]

Can't imagine that Ortiz will remain on the card, even if he's eventually cleared.

It will take time to sort it out.

I don't believe that the promoters want an accused high profile violent sex criminal in the televised main event.

Neither would the network. Not in today's climate.

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Can't imagine that Ortiz will remain on the card, even if he's eventually cleared.

It will take time to sort it out.

I don't believe that the promoters want an accused high profile violent sex criminal in the televised main event.

Neither would the network. Not in today's climate.

Viewers!!

[SenorPipino]

Can't imagine that Ortiz will remain on the card, even if he's eventually cleared.

It will take time to sort it out.

I don't believe that the promoters want an accused high profile violent sex criminal in the televised main event.

Neither would the network. Not in today's climate.

Viewers!!

That's very true. Viewership would be up.

But FOX would have to decide if an extra rating point or so is worth all the clamor that will be raised (especially by women's groups) by showcasing and rewarding a charged rape suspect.

And I don't even know if Ortiz has any intention of going through with the fight

He would probably prefer to remain low profile.

He is free on a $100,000 bond.

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That's very true. Viewership would be up.

But FOX would have to decide if an extra rating point or so is worth all the clamor that will be raised (especially by women's groups) by showcasing and rewarding a charged rape suspect.

And I don't even know if Ortiz has any intention of going through with the fight

He would probably prefer to remain low profile.

He is free on a $100,000 bond.

Well, it's all alleged right now...

[SenorPipino]

That's very true. Viewership would be up.

But FOX would have to decide if an extra rating point or so is worth all the clamor that will be raised (especially by women's groups) by showcasing and rewarding a charged rape suspect.

And I don't even know if Ortiz has any intention of going through with the fight

He would probably prefer to remain low profile.

He is free on a $100,000 bond.

Well, it's all alleged right now...

Only because he hadn't been convicted.

But I think you can throw out the word "alleged" once a suspect had been arrested and charged.

And Ortiz turned himself in.

It would stun me if Ortiz was in the ring Sunday.

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https://www.BS.com/john-molina ... ed--132204

Cancelled.

[SenorPipino]

Damn.

I was actually looking forward to it for the past couple months.

Not exactly 2 class battlers, but it still figured to be a head knocking slugfest.

Maybe they could bring in Bam Bam Rios as a sub.

[bmilligan]

"I love football but I'll definitely be at the fights because it's unfortunate, it was a bit of a homecoming for myself and a lot of personal friends and family had purchased tickets and there's no refunds there. So I'll definitely be in the house and share the experience with everybody," said Molina.

Ouch no refunds.... That sucks for his friends and family.

[SenorPipino]

"I love football but I'll definitely be at the fights because it's unfortunate, it was a bit of a homecoming for myself and a lot of personal friends and family had purchased tickets and there's no refunds there. So I'll definitely be in the house and share the experience with everybody," said Molina.

Ouch no refunds.... That sucks for his friends and family.

That doesn't seem right. If you purchase tickets for a certain product and that product is suddenly unavailable, you should be automatically entitled to a refund.

If promoters are selling Molina -Ortiz and that falls apart, how can you force fans to pay for something else?

Sounds like bait and switch.

I used to attend the Olympic Auditorium fights quite frequently in the 70s. When any high profile main event was cancelled and I had already purchased tickets early for it, I'd trudge down to 18th and Grand and request a refund.

The box office guys would always counter by offering me a partial refund and a discount on the tickets.

Sometimes if the replacement main event was intriguing, I would accept the offer.

But if not, I stood my ground and received my money back.

Promoters here should do the same. They may be legally obliged.

[chuck9788]

I think fans take a certain risk when they purchase tickets for fighters like Victor Ortiz, Broner. Tyson fury, Tank Davis, etc.. They are unreliable.

It really is difficult to feel bad for people that count on Victor Ortiz for anything. Just ask his family and friends.

[bmilligan]

"I love football but I'll definitely be at the fights because it's unfortunate, it was a bit of a homecoming for myself and a lot of personal friends and family had purchased tickets and there's no refunds there. So I'll definitely be in the house and share the experience with everybody," said Molina.

Ouch no refunds.... That sucks for his friends and family.

That doesn't seem right. If you purchase tickets for a certain product and that product is suddenly unavailable, you should be automatically entitled to a refund.

If promoters are selling Molina -Ortiz and that falls apart, how can you force fans to pay for something else?

Sounds like bait and switch.

I used to attend the Olympic Auditorium fights quite frequently in the 70s. When any high profile main event was cancelled and I had already purchased tickets early for it, I'd trudge down to 18th and Grand and request a refund.

The box office guys would always counter by offering me a partial refund and a discount on the tickets.

Sometimes if the replacement main event was intriguing, I would accept the offer.

But if not, I stood my ground and received my money back.

Promoters here should do the same. They may be legally obliged.

Yup that is the right way to do it!

Wonder if they are trying to strong arm till the last second, might be trying to get a last second replacement!