Joe Joyce

[diddy]

This guy has bricks in his gloves. Abel Sanchez needs to teach him how to come in behind the jab better. He's 32 years old I believe so he's not young. You get the sense he would achieve a much higher level if he was busier with the jab. He's a physical specimen but slow. Kiladze is taking way too many shots in this fight.

[jamamb]

kildze should retire or fight at a lower level, way too much punishment vs joyce, kownacki, and hunter (and a ktfo to kalenga)

lol now watch him be ajagbas next opponent

[Best Coast]

kildze should retire or fight at a lower level, way too much punishment vs joyce, kownacki, and hunter (and a ktfo to kalenga)

lol now watch him be ajagbas next opponent

I actually wouldnt mind seeing Kiladze in with Ajagba. Iago's last 3 losses all lasted 5 rounds or more. I wouldnt be surprised if Ajagba could take him out in 2 or 3. Regardless of how long he might last with Ajagba it would be a good measuring stick for Efe.

[jamamb]

kiladzes brain could do without more of these poundings. 3 punishing beatings in a row. ajagba would surely ko him too

very painful year for him!

[Ricky]

I like Joyce but he needs to step it up, fast. I'm not sure why he left it so late to turn pro but bowling over tomato cans won't serve much purpose at his age. I hope they make the Chisora fight.

[joshj909]

Looks like the rumours of him facing Ortiz have come back to Haymon reality

Are there any Americans that give credit to a fighter for beating Washington? because i would only rank him at David Price sort of level which is not a big deal at all.

[Rob3_142]

I think I would be satisfied with Washington in his 6th fight.

The American is far from a world beater, but if Joyce can knock him over, it'll be a step in the right direction.

[Ossyrules]

Washington is a good fight for Joyce. Former world title challenger. Caused wilder some issues for a few rounds. Natural step up for joyce

[joshj909]

I think I would be satisfied with Washington in his 6th fight.

The American is far from a world beater, but if Joyce can knock him over, it'll be a step in the right direction.

My concern comes down to this claim:

I think only Wilder or Miller could believe that Washington is a "huge name"

[Enlightened-One]

Joe Joyce looked has looked slow, awkward and clumsy in all of his last three outings.

He's getting fast-tracked, due to being 33 years of age, but against the terribly dire Iago Kiladze, he demonstrated very little skill, he didn’t know how to cut the ring off, his footwork was poor and his jab was almost non-existent. The Brit cluelessly chased the Georgian around the ring in straight lines, whilst throwing a lot of slow crude telegraphed looping shots.

Abel Sanchez has got his work cut out for him, because the Brit’s defence was extremely porous against Iago Kiladze. He is being asked to perform miracles, by teaching an old slow crude cumbersome clueless dog a lot of new tricks and I don’t believe that any trainer, regardless of their track-record, will be able to achieve that truly ambitious goal.

Joe Joyce hasn’t demonstrated anything inside the ring to justify the amount of hype he’s received.

I don’t envisage the Brit accomplishing very much in the sport, because I’m becoming increasingly convinced about him eventually being regarded as the second coming of Michael Grant, but with far less talent and mobility than the previously hyped-up American.

If the sport of boxing was more akin to ‘Rock 'Em Sock 'Em Robots’, rather than being a ‘Sweet Science’, then Joe Joyce would inevitably gain much more success.

I hope I’m wrong though. I’d like to see the Brit improve, but I just don’t think he can.

[littlepug]

Joe Joyce looked has looked slow, awkward and clumsy in all of his last three outings.

He's getting fast-tracked, due to being 33 years of age, but against the terribly dire Iago Kiladze, he demonstrated very little skill, he didn’t know how to cut the ring off, his footwork was poor and his jab was almost non-existent. The Brit cluelessly chased the Georgian around the ring in straight lines, whilst throwing a lot of slow crude telegraphed looping shots.

Abel Sanchez has got his work cut out for him, because the Brit’s defence was extremely porous against Iago Kiladze. He is being asked to perform miracles, by teaching an old slow crude cumbersome clueless dog a lot of new tricks and I don’t believe that any trainer, regardless of their track-record, will be able to achieve that truly ambitious goal.

Joe Joyce hasn’t demonstrated anything inside the ring to justify the amount of hype he’s received.

I don’t envisage the Brit accomplishing very much in the sport, because I’m becoming increasingly convinced about him eventually being regarded as the second coming of Michael Grant, but with far less talent and mobility than the previously hyped-up American.

If the sport of boxing was more akin to ‘Rock 'Em Sock 'Em Robots’, rather than being a ‘Sweet Science’, then Joe Joyce would inevitably gain much more success.

I hope I’m wrong though. I’d like to see the Brit improve, but I just don’t think he can.

Im inclined to agree, i will be shocked if Joyce beats anyone with world class skills.

[tiny_acres]

If he is serious about wanting a title shot in the next 18 months. He has to step it up in competition. Someone with a proven chin.
Get some rounds in.
These knock outs look great on paper but there is no way to gauge him

[adislav123]

I'm inclined to say he would give any of the top guys, excluding wilder, (whom i, for all i know bout boxing & that won't be much, as hard as i try to like him, just can't consider top-level, beaten up & out by ortiz, beaten up by duhaupas, kept in check by washington, szplika, he pulled of the lucky shot, loading up from jerusalem, he has comic value, i give him that, still i don't like the guy, not one bit, him who kept that belt in ransom, extorting it on guys who wouldn't come near a title-defense without shady shit going on) problems, if he beats them, we will see if he steps up, i don't know!

[ewenhay]

I'm inclined to say he would give any of the top guys, excluding wilder, (whom i, for all i know bout boxing & that won't be much, as hard as i try to like him, just can't consider top-level, beaten up & out by ortiz, beaten up by duhaupas, kept in check by washington, szplika, he pulled of the lucky shot, loading up from jerusalem, he has comic value, i give him that, still i don't like the guy, not one bit, him who kept that belt in ransom, extorting it on guys who wouldn't come near a title-defense without shady poo going on) problems, if he beats them, we will see if he steps up, i don't know!

I think that might be a world record for the most words contained within brackets in a single sentence!

[JOEY DAWEJKO]

I would love to knock this big stuff out! They called me to fight him before, then refused a fight with me. They know I am way to tough for him, and they are giving him easy fights. If he wants to be a real man, he should fight me. His agent said he would knock me out. I told him to bet me my purse he couldn’t touch me! Let’s see what happens lol

[tiny_acres]

I would love to knock this big stuff out! They called me to fight him before, then refused a fight with me. They know I am way to tough for him, and they are giving him easy fights. If he wants to be a real man, he should fight me. His agent said he would knock me out. I told him to bet me my purse he couldn’t touch me! Let’s see what happens lol

You've got a decent chin. That's more a step up than what he's been fighting.
I'd watch it

[jamamb]

washington is a good next fight for joyce, a fringe contending guy who won some rounds vs wilder and can box and move a bit early. beating him would shoot joyce up to the top 20 or so

joey wouldve been better then kiladze, having gone the distance vs mansour and jennings, and ideally it wouldve been that fight last night and then onto washington next

[Rob3_142]

I'm inclined to say he would give any of the top guys, excluding wilder, (whom i, for all i know bout boxing & that won't be much, as hard as i try to like him, just can't consider top-level, beaten up & out by ortiz, beaten up by duhaupas, kept in check by washington, szplika, he pulled of the lucky shot, loading up from jerusalem, he has comic value, i give him that, still i don't like the guy, not one bit, him who kept that belt in ransom, extorting it on guys who wouldn't come near a title-defense without shady poo going on) problems, if he beats them, we will see if he steps up, i don't know!

I think that might be a world record for the most words contained within brackets in a single sentence!

This.

[DrDuke]

Kiladze fight had an obvious outcome. Washington next? Well, sounds interesting. It will be a step up in opposition level for sure.

[Rob3_142]

I think I would be satisfied with Washington in his 6th fight.

The American is far from a world beater, but if Joyce can knock him over, it'll be a step in the right direction.

My concern comes down to this claim:

I think only Wilder or Miller could believe that Washington is a "huge name"

Yeah but how many times we seen this before? The way 'world class or 'huge fight' is the thrown about is nothing short of embarrassing.

They should be fined for saying these things, only to offer up another tin can

[Kilsby]

Joyce has a punch but he won't go far unless he meets a champion with low punch resistance.

He is wide open, he throws wide punches. Someone with timing will shove a right cross right down his pipe and it will be lights out.

Once this happens, he won't have the same confidence and it's too late to teach an old dog new tricks.

I already know the ending.

[Ossyrules]

Joe Joyce looked has looked slow, awkward and clumsy in all of his last three outings.

He's getting fast-tracked, due to being 33 years of age, but against the terribly dire Iago Kiladze, he demonstrated very little skill, he didn’t know how to cut the ring off, his footwork was poor and his jab was almost non-existent. The Brit cluelessly chased the Georgian around the ring in straight lines, whilst throwing a lot of slow crude telegraphed looping shots.

Abel Sanchez has got his work cut out for him, because the Brit’s defence was extremely porous against Iago Kiladze. He is being asked to perform miracles, by teaching an old slow crude cumbersome clueless dog a lot of new tricks and I don’t believe that any trainer, regardless of their track-record, will be able to achieve that truly ambitious goal.

Joe Joyce hasn’t demonstrated anything inside the ring to justify the amount of hype he’s received.

I don’t envisage the Brit accomplishing very much in the sport, because I’m becoming increasingly convinced about him eventually being regarded as the second coming of Michael Grant, but with far less talent and mobility than the previously hyped-up American.

If the sport of boxing was more akin to ‘Rock 'Em Sock 'Em Robots’, rather than being a ‘Sweet Science’, then Joe Joyce would inevitably gain much more success.

I hope I’m wrong though. I’d like to see the Brit improve, but I just don’t think he can.

Is there loads of hype around joyce? It’s a subjective matter but in my opinion, the noise surrounding him is moderate.

Joyce may not go on to be a world champion, but he can still have a good career. He’s big, fit and punches hard, which is more than a lot of heavyweights out there. He can achieve a good career still and with some finesse in smoothing off some rawness, well there’s been worse guys competing for world titles imo

[Best Coast]

Joyce needs lots of work and at age 33 needs to step up the comp. Washington would be a good next step for him.

I think his trainer Abel Sanchez is somewhat overrated and I'm not sure Abel can help get Joe get to the point where he can win a world title. He's got lots of work and a relatively short time frame in which to do it.

[candyslim]

If I were Joyce's management I'd want to try and get him in the ring with Luis Ortiz. It would be risky because Luis can dig and would be able to out-box Joe for a few rounds. I'd be gambling that Joe is tough enough to take what Ortiz can throw at him and would come on strong as the fight goes on. There is a risk because Joe has been KOed - Sergei Kuzmin achieved it as an amateur. There may have been others but I don't follow the amateurs too closely.

His stamina is good whereas that is now a weakness of the 39 - 49 year old Ortiz so I'd be banking on a late stoppage for Joyce.

A win over Ortiz would announce his arrival very nicely. Now he's in the Haymon camp that would put him in line for a shot at the PBC Heavyweight Title ... Oh what a faux pas, I mean the WBC title don't I?

[diddy]

Ortiz would beat Joyce's ass.