Alexander Povetkin's resume vs Dereck Chisora's resume (both fighting against opponents in each other's resumes)

[Luis Fernando12]

Many individuals seem to hold this blind belief, that Povetkin is somehow UNDOUBTEDLY and INDISUPUTABLY better than Dereck Chisora as a professional boxer. And when asked to justify / substantiate that position, they rely on irrelevant facts, such as Povetkin's amateur accomplishments and his padded wins against a bunch of non-elite heavyweights in the pros (which Dereck Chisora also has roughly an equal number of wins against).

Amateur accomplishments for Povetkin is irrelevant. Since, they occurred in a totally different heavyweight landscape, not comparable to today's, where elite SUPER HEAVYWEIGHTS exist. And also because, they have no relevance to pro success. And since Dereck Chisora never competed in amateur boxing. So the only fair comparison that can be made, is comparing their pro boxing records.

Here are Povetkin's best opponents (in no particular order):

1) Wladimir Klitschko (got beat by)

2) Anthony Joshua (got beat by)

3) Ruslan Chagaev

4) Eddie Chambers

5) Carlos Takam

6) Mike Perez

7) Manuel Charr

8) Mariusz Wach

9) Johann Duhaupas

10) Hasim Rahman

11) Larry Donald

12) Andzrej Wawrzyk

13) Marco Huck

14) Chris Byrd


Here are Dereck Chisora's best opponents (in no particular order):

1) Vitali Klitschko (got beat by)

2) Tyson Fury (got beat by X2)

3) David Haye (got beat by)

4) Kubrat Pulev (got beat by)

5) Dillian Whyte (won / drew, but got robbed on the scorecards)

6) Robert Helenius (won, but got robbed on the scorecards)

7) Carlos Takam

8) Malik Scott

9) Kevin Johnson

10) Danny Williams


Yes, Dereck Chisora holds more losses, but pretty much every one Chisora lost to LEGITIMATELY (outside of Agit Kabayel), would arguably be favored to beat Alexander Povetkin.

Dereck Chisora's level of opposition has been FAR BETTER than Alexander Povetkin's. Which is why he has more losses. The combination of Vitali Klitschko, Tyson Fury, David Haye and Kubrat Pulev are far better than Povetkin's 2 best opponents in Wladimir Klitschko and Anthony Joshua.

if we just look at their wins and ignore their losses, then both have wins over similar level of opposition.

An argument can be made, that Chisora would beat any, and every opponent Povetkin EVER beat in his ENTIRE pro career. Whilst an argument can also be made, that Povetkin would lose to EVERY heavyweight, that LEGITIMATELY beat Chisora (outside of Agit Kabayel).

Vitali Klitschko would box Povetkin's head off.

Tyson Fury would box Povetkin's ears off.

David Haye would arguably BLAST Povetkin out of the ring in SUPER QUICK TIME.

Kubrat Pulev would jab Povetkin to death.


Whilst Chisora would do to low level heavyweights like Manuel Charr, Mike Perez, Mariusz Wach, Andzrej Wawrzyk and etc. What he roughly did to Carlos Takam. Literally exposing Povetkin's ENTIRE pro career then and there.

Povetkin has a manufactured, and a fraudulent / deceptive career, based on beating leftovers of other boxers. basically, fighting opponents after they already have been beaten and exposed by someone else. And avoiding ELITES of the division, more than Chisora had. Which is why his record DECEPTIVELY only looks better, when in reality, it isn't.

[Rob3_142]

The OP lost all integrity when it said Chisora was 'robbed by Whyte.

[Ossyrules]

chagaev win is better than any win Del Boy has achieved. And it was for a WT, so yeah Povetkin has a better record and achieved more

Are you a fury fan OP?

[dagilechia]

Povetkin got much better resume, he is more skilled and just better fighter, and he lost only to #1 fighters at the time he fought them. If you dont see that you must be stupid/blind/trolling.

Since both turned to pros, i have never seen any ranking that had Del Boy ranked above of Povetkin.

[greg]

..with all due respect this thread makes little sense to me..

PS. I just slightly modified the wording

[Mexi-Box]

Even the eye-test favors Povetkin. Outside of the foul-fest Klitschko fight (which should've been a DQ win in favor of Povetkin), he gave Joshua one of his toughest fights, and without a doubt, a younger version would've stopped Joshua.

[tiny_acres]

Many individuals seem to hold this blind belief, that Povetkin is somehow UNDOUBTEDLY and INDISUPUTABLY better than Dereck Chisora as a professional boxer. And when asked to justify / substantiate that position, they rely on irrelevant facts, such as Povetkin's amateur accomplishments and his padded wins against a bunch of non-elite heavyweights in the pros (which Dereck Chisora also has roughly an equal number of wins against).

Amateur accomplishments for Povetkin is irrelevant. Since, they occurred in a totally different heavyweight landscape, not comparable to today's, where elite SUPER HEAVYWEIGHTS exist. And also because, they have no relevance to pro success. And since Dereck Chisora never competed in amateur boxing. So the only fair comparison that can be made, is comparing their pro boxing records.

Here are Povetkin's best opponents (in no particular order):

1) Wladimir Klitschko (got beat by)

2) Anthony Joshua (got beat by)

3) Ruslan Chagaev

4) Eddie Chambers

5) Carlos Takam

6) Mike Perez

7) Manuel Charr

8) Mariusz Wach

9) Johann Duhaupas

10) Hasim Rahman

11) Larry Donald

12) Andzrej Wawrzyk

13) Marco Huck

14) Chris Byrd


Here are Dereck Chisora's best opponents (in no particular order):

1) Vitali Klitschko (got beat by)

2) Tyson Fury (got beat by X2)

3) David Haye (got beat by)

4) Kubrat Pulev (got beat by)

5) Dillian Whyte (won / drew, but got robbed on the scorecards)

6) Robert Helenius (won, but got robbed on the scorecards)

7) Carlos Takam

8) Malik Scott

9) Kevin Johnson

10) Danny Williams


Yes, Dereck Chisora holds more losses, but pretty much every one Chisora lost to LEGITIMATELY (outside of Agit Kabayel), would arguably be favored to beat Alexander Povetkin.

Dereck Chisora's level of opposition has been FAR BETTER than Alexander Povetkin's. Which is why he has more losses. The combination of Vitali Klitschko, Tyson Fury, David Haye and Kubrat Pulev are far better than Povetkin's 2 best opponents in Wladimir Klitschko and Anthony Joshua.

if we just look at their wins and ignore their losses, then both have wins over similar level of opposition.

An argument can be made, that Chisora would beat any, and every opponent Povetkin EVER beat in his ENTIRE pro career. Whilst an argument can also be made, that Povetkin would lose to EVERY heavyweight, that LEGITIMATELY beat Chisora (outside of Agit Kabayel).

Vitali Klitschko would box Povetkin's head off.

Tyson Fury would box Povetkin's ears off.

David Haye would arguably BLAST Povetkin out of the ring in SUPER QUICK TIME.

Kubrat Pulev would jab Povetkin to death.


Whilst Chisora would do to low level heavyweights like Manuel Charr, Mike Perez, Mariusz Wach, Andzrej Wawrzyk and etc. What he roughly did to Carlos Takam. Literally exposing Povetkin's ENTIRE pro career then and there.

Povetkin has a manufactured, and a fraudulent / deceptive career, based on beating leftovers of other boxers. basically, fighting opponents after they already have been beaten and exposed by someone else. And avoiding ELITES of the division, more than Chisora had. Which is why his record DECEPTIVELY only looks better, when in reality, it isn't.

Did Povetkin rape your puppy or something?
Why all of the posts of hate?
The guy was/is a legitimate top 5 contender who is bow old but very capable.
He's a good fighter no matter what you argue

[Lackeos]

Povetkin would've beat Whyte, beat Kabayel, handily beat Helenius, and been 50/50 against Pulev and Haye. If Povetkin had fought Chisora's opponents, he would've been 33-4 (Vitali, Fury x2, and 1 loss to either Haye or Pulev).

[Lennox]

I wonder what goes on in someones head sometimes to try and compare the two.

Povetkin has been in the top 3 since October 2010 his record is 16-2 v top 50 opponents.

Chisora is 7-8 against top 50 opponents highest ranked he beat was Takam 12. Povetkin has beaten 5 top 10 fighters.

[Luis Fernando12]

Many individuals seem to hold this blind belief, that Povetkin is somehow UNDOUBTEDLY and INDISUPUTABLY better than Dereck Chisora as a professional boxer. And when asked to justify / substantiate that position, they rely on irrelevant facts, such as Povetkin's amateur accomplishments and his padded wins against a bunch of non-elite heavyweights in the pros (which Dereck Chisora also has roughly an equal number of wins against).

Amateur accomplishments for Povetkin is irrelevant. Since, they occurred in a totally different heavyweight landscape, not comparable to today's, where elite SUPER HEAVYWEIGHTS exist. And also because, they have no relevance to pro success. And since Dereck Chisora never competed in amateur boxing. So the only fair comparison that can be made, is comparing their pro boxing records.

Here are Povetkin's best opponents (in no particular order):

1) Wladimir Klitschko (got beat by)

2) Anthony Joshua (got beat by)

3) Ruslan Chagaev

4) Eddie Chambers

5) Carlos Takam

6) Mike Perez

7) Manuel Charr

8) Mariusz Wach

9) Johann Duhaupas

10) Hasim Rahman

11) Larry Donald

12) Andzrej Wawrzyk

13) Marco Huck

14) Chris Byrd


Here are Dereck Chisora's best opponents (in no particular order):

1) Vitali Klitschko (got beat by)

2) Tyson Fury (got beat by X2)

3) David Haye (got beat by)

4) Kubrat Pulev (got beat by)

5) Dillian Whyte (won / drew, but got robbed on the scorecards)

6) Robert Helenius (won, but got robbed on the scorecards)

7) Carlos Takam

8) Malik Scott

9) Kevin Johnson

10) Danny Williams


Yes, Dereck Chisora holds more losses, but pretty much every one Chisora lost to LEGITIMATELY (outside of Agit Kabayel), would arguably be favored to beat Alexander Povetkin.

Dereck Chisora's level of opposition has been FAR BETTER than Alexander Povetkin's. Which is why he has more losses. The combination of Vitali Klitschko, Tyson Fury, David Haye and Kubrat Pulev are far better than Povetkin's 2 best opponents in Wladimir Klitschko and Anthony Joshua.

if we just look at their wins and ignore their losses, then both have wins over similar level of opposition.

An argument can be made, that Chisora would beat any, and every opponent Povetkin EVER beat in his ENTIRE pro career. Whilst an argument can also be made, that Povetkin would lose to EVERY heavyweight, that LEGITIMATELY beat Chisora (outside of Agit Kabayel).

Vitali Klitschko would box Povetkin's head off.

Tyson Fury would box Povetkin's ears off.

David Haye would arguably BLAST Povetkin out of the ring in SUPER QUICK TIME.

Kubrat Pulev would jab Povetkin to death.


Whilst Chisora would do to low level heavyweights like Manuel Charr, Mike Perez, Mariusz Wach, Andzrej Wawrzyk and etc. What he roughly did to Carlos Takam. Literally exposing Povetkin's ENTIRE pro career then and there.

Povetkin has a manufactured, and a fraudulent / deceptive career, based on beating leftovers of other boxers. basically, fighting opponents after they already have been beaten and exposed by someone else. And avoiding ELITES of the division, more than Chisora had. Which is why his record DECEPTIVELY only looks better, when in reality, it isn't.

Did Povetkin rape your puppy or something?
Why all of the posts of hate?
The guy was/is a legitimate top 5 contender who is bow old but very capable.
He's a good fighter no matter what you argue

It's called 'constructive criticism'! I don't like it when boxers get overrated beyond what they deserve. So it's a matter of exposing the truth about those overrated boxers and revealing how they really should be ranked / rated, based on facts and evidence, which is based on their records / feats,

As such, Povetkin does not deserve to be ranked / rated much, if AT ALL higher than Dereck Chisora.

[Luis Fernando12]

Povetkin would've beat Whyte, beat Kabayel, handily beat Helenius, and been 50/50 against Pulev and Haye. If Povetkin had fought Chisora's opponents, he would've been 33-4 (Vitali, Fury x2, and 1 loss to either Haye or Pulev).

Whtye would ABSOLUTELY, and I mean, ABSOLUTELY slaughter Alexander Povetkin. That isn't a fight I'd even like to see, purely for the sake of Povetkin's health and safety.

Whyte punches significantly harder than Povetkin. Evident by their respective performances against Anthony Joshua. Whyte also performed far better against Anthony Joshua (despite also being injured during the fight).

Povetkin landed multiple, maximum powered punches flush on Anthony Joshua's face / body / head, but they had practically no affect whatsoever. Joshua barely even looked bothered by those relatively weak punches.

One clean left hook was all it took from Whyte, to totally stun Joshua out of his core.

Even in durability, Whyte showed far greater durability against Joshua than Povetkin did. Povetkin got caught by one right hand, and was stunned, then subsequently dropped with few follow up punches.

Meanwhile, Whyte took constant flush and clean power punches from Anthony Joshua for 7 rounds. And even though Whyte was injured, Joshua still had to hit Whyte with a ton more punches than the number of punches he needed to hit Povetkin with, until he incapacitated / dropped Whyte to the canvas. Even whilst Whyte was stunned in the 7th round, Joshua had to work harder and land more punches to finally drop Whyte. Whilst Povetkin couldn't even handle half the number of punches that Joshua landed.

Whyte's durability makes it look like Povetkin has chin worse than a glass.

And Povetkin is not beating Fury. Not in a million years!

[Luis Fernando12]

I wonder what goes on in someones head sometimes to try and compare the two.

Povetkin has been in the top 3 since October 2010 his record is 16-2 v top 50 opponents.

Chisora is 7-8 against top 50 opponents highest ranked he beat was Takam 12. Povetkin has beaten 5 top 10 fighters.

Chisora's level of opposition > Povetkin's level of opposition. Chisora faced more ELITE opponents than Povetkin has.

Povetkin has made a career out of cherry picking opponents, who have already lost / been exposed by someone else. How many unbeaten opponents does Povetkin have in his record? Eddie Chambers? Andzrej Wawrzyk?

If Povetkin was such a top fighter, then why didn't the likes of Charles Martin and Bermane Stiverne need to go through Alexander Povetkin by needing to fight and beat him first, to become champions during the era Povetkin was fighting in?

[dagilechia]

I think it is time to stop to feed this troll. He said that Gvozdyk arguably beats Povetkin.

[Heretic]

Here I am feeding the troll once again



Haey vs Povetkin would be 50/50 fight.
Pulev vs Povetkin I would favor Povetkin. Pulev is not knocking Povetkin out and Povetkin is hard to outpoint in a fair fight.
Fury vs Povetkin I see Fury as a favorite here but Povetkin does have a chance in this fight. Furys chin is not granite and Povetkin can bang so he has a punchers chance 75/25 fight.
Povetkin would have murdered Helenius. Chisora was in all sorts of trouble against one handed Helenius.
Vitali would beat Povetkin silly but he would do that to pretty much anyone outside of the very best HW boxers ever.


And then the other way around...

Remeber that Kabayel beat Chisora? Byrd and Chambers both could too that too. 50/50 fights.
Perez and Chagaev are both tough opponents. Both are better boxers than Chisora. Chisora has great chin and stamina so both fights would be really hard for all involved. 50/50 fights again.

So against those guys Chisora would go 2 and 2.

Out of the 13 three stars or better fights on Chisoras Boxrec record hes 5 wins and 8 losses.

For Povetkin the three stars or better stats are 19 fights 17 wins and 2 losses.

End of comparison

[Gnome]

Povetkin would've beat Whyte, beat Kabayel, handily beat Helenius, and been 50/50 against Pulev and Haye. If Povetkin had fought Chisora's opponents, he would've been 33-4 (Vitali, Fury x2, and 1 loss to either Haye or Pulev).

Whtye would ABSOLUTELY, and I mean, ABSOLUTELY slaughter Alexander Povetkin. That isn't a fight I'd even like to see, purely for the sake of Povetkin's health and safety.

Whyte punches significantly harder than Povetkin. Evident by their respective performances against Anthony Joshua. Whyte also performed far better against Anthony Joshua (despite also being injured during the fight).

Povetkin landed multiple, maximum powered punches flush on Anthony Joshua's face / body / head, but they had practically no affect whatsoever. Joshua barely even looked bothered by those relatively weak punches.

One clean left hook was all it took from Whyte, to totally stun Joshua out of his core.

Even in durability, Whyte showed far greater durability against Joshua than Povetkin did. Povetkin got caught by one right hand, and was stunned, then subsequently dropped with few follow up punches.

Meanwhile, Whyte took constant flush and clean power punches from Anthony Joshua for 7 rounds. And even though Whyte was injured, Joshua still had to hit Whyte with a ton more punches than the number of punches he needed to hit Povetkin with, until he incapacitated / dropped Whyte to the canvas. Even whilst Whyte was stunned in the 7th round, Joshua had to work harder and land more punches to finally drop Whyte. Whilst Povetkin couldn't even handle half the number of punches that Joshua landed.

Whyte's durability makes it look like Povetkin has chin worse than a glass.

And Povetkin is not beating Fury. Not in a million years!

You're deranged. Povetkin smashes Whyte and Chisora.

[Lennox]

I wonder what goes on in someones head sometimes to try and compare the two.

Povetkin has been in the top 3 since October 2010 his record is 16-2 v top 50 opponents.

Chisora is 7-8 against top 50 opponents highest ranked he beat was Takam 12. Povetkin has beaten 5 top 10 fighters.

Chisora's level of opposition > Povetkin's level of opposition. Chisora faced more ELITE opponents than Povetkin has.

Povetkin has made a career out of cherry picking opponents, who have already lost / been exposed by someone else. How many unbeaten opponents does Povetkin have in his record? Eddie Chambers? Andzrej Wawrzyk?

If Povetkin was such a top fighter, then why didn't the likes of Charles Martin and Bermane Stiverne need to go through Alexander Povetkin by needing to fight and beat him first, to become champions during the era Povetkin was fighting in?

There is probably one other person that agrees with you and his name is Derck Chisora.
Statiscally you might find looking at the last 20 fights for Povetkin and Chisora via www.premierboxingorganisation.com/heavyweight-200 will satisfy your mind. The numbers relate to the ranking of the opponent pre-fight.

[Deleted_Scenes]

Povetkin would've beat Whyte, beat Kabayel, handily beat Helenius, and been 50/50 against Pulev and Haye. If Povetkin had fought Chisora's opponents, he would've been 33-4 (Vitali, Fury x2, and 1 loss to either Haye or Pulev).

I'd go a little further than that.

Povetkin would have gone 1-1 with Fury (beating the green version Chisora gave a tough fight the first time round), and probably would have beaten both Haye (who never really convinced me at heavyweight) and Pulev. 35-2

[Mexi-Box]

Povetkin would've beat Whyte, beat Kabayel, handily beat Helenius, and been 50/50 against Pulev and Haye. If Povetkin had fought Chisora's opponents, he would've been 33-4 (Vitali, Fury x2, and 1 loss to either Haye or Pulev).

I'd go a little further than that.

Povetkin would have gone 1-1 with Fury (beating the green version Chisora gave a tough fight the first time round), and probably would have beaten both Haye (who never really convinced me at heavyweight) and Pulev. 35-2

I think Povetkin beats Fury. You need to have more than a solid jab to deter Povetkin, and Fury doesn't have huge power. After what I saw in the Joshua fight, I don't think Fury beats Povetkin.

Not saying they fight similar but look at the ease in which Povetkin was able to get on the inside and be effective against Joshua. Also, look at the Fury/Cunningham fight. Fury is also vulnerable to overhands, which Povetkin will be throwing all night.

[bigman1968]

Who gives the eff about both of them???

[Luis Fernando12]

Povetkin would've beat Whyte, beat Kabayel, handily beat Helenius, and been 50/50 against Pulev and Haye. If Povetkin had fought Chisora's opponents, he would've been 33-4 (Vitali, Fury x2, and 1 loss to either Haye or Pulev).

Whtye would ABSOLUTELY, and I mean, ABSOLUTELY slaughter Alexander Povetkin. That isn't a fight I'd even like to see, purely for the sake of Povetkin's health and safety.

Whyte punches significantly harder than Povetkin. Evident by their respective performances against Anthony Joshua. Whyte also performed far better against Anthony Joshua (despite also being injured during the fight).

Povetkin landed multiple, maximum powered punches flush on Anthony Joshua's face / body / head, but they had practically no affect whatsoever. Joshua barely even looked bothered by those relatively weak punches.

One clean left hook was all it took from Whyte, to totally stun Joshua out of his core.

Even in durability, Whyte showed far greater durability against Joshua than Povetkin did. Povetkin got caught by one right hand, and was stunned, then subsequently dropped with few follow up punches.

Meanwhile, Whyte took constant flush and clean power punches from Anthony Joshua for 7 rounds. And even though Whyte was injured, Joshua still had to hit Whyte with a ton more punches than the number of punches he needed to hit Povetkin with, until he incapacitated / dropped Whyte to the canvas. Even whilst Whyte was stunned in the 7th round, Joshua had to work harder and land more punches to finally drop Whyte. Whilst Povetkin couldn't even handle half the number of punches that Joshua landed.

Whyte's durability makes it look like Povetkin has chin worse than a glass.

And Povetkin is not beating Fury. Not in a million years!

You're deranged. Povetkin smashes Whyte and Chisora.

Based on what? You mean how he smashed journeymen Christian Hammer and Andriy Rudenko? Where he went 24 rounds against them, and failed to even score a single knockdown?

Care to explain how he can do any worse to Dillian Whyte or Dereck Chisora?

Dillian Whyte has just recently dropped Joseph parker and concussed Lucas Browne. What has Povetkin done RECENTLY, that was more impressive?

[Luis Fernando12]

I wonder what goes on in someones head sometimes to try and compare the two.

Povetkin has been in the top 3 since October 2010 his record is 16-2 v top 50 opponents.

Chisora is 7-8 against top 50 opponents highest ranked he beat was Takam 12. Povetkin has beaten 5 top 10 fighters.

Chisora's level of opposition > Povetkin's level of opposition. Chisora faced more ELITE opponents than Povetkin has.

Povetkin has made a career out of cherry picking opponents, who have already lost / been exposed by someone else. How many unbeaten opponents does Povetkin have in his record? Eddie Chambers? Andzrej Wawrzyk?

If Povetkin was such a top fighter, then why didn't the likes of Charles Martin and Bermane Stiverne need to go through Alexander Povetkin by needing to fight and beat him first, to become champions during the era Povetkin was fighting in?

There is probably one other person that agrees with you and his name is Derck Chisora.
Statiscally you might find looking at the last 20 fights for Povetkin and Chisora via www.premierboxingorganisation.com/heavyweight-200 will satisfy your mind. The numbers relate to the ranking of the opponent pre-fight.

Povetkin has faced multiple opponents who were on their way down, when he fought them. And they were already previously exposed / beaten by someone else. As I asked someone else, how many unbeaten opponents has Povetkin beaten or even faced?

Go ahead and tell me who Povetkin beat, that Chisora won't also beat. And outside of Kabayel, tell me who Povetkin would beat, that Chisora lost against.

[Lennox]

Povetkin beats Dillian Whyte, Pulev, Hughie Fury, Wach, Duhauppas, Miller, Joe Parker, Breazalle, Kownacki, Hammer, Jennings, Hekenius....... all those fighters will probably beat Dereck.

The arguement about unbeaten fighters is always a non sense, it means nothing, plently of 17-5 fighters are better than some 22-0 ones. Dereck at 29-8 is much better than many unbeaten ones.

A lot of Chisoras wins are against very poor fights. Povetkins resume is very high. Povetkin beats most he just struggles with the big heavyweights that are elite. Povetkin is past his best now though, he may or may not fight again, I would say a Luis Ortiz fight or a Wilder fight hes not certain to lose and it is nearly 50-50. Chisora v those is a 5 or 10% chance.

I also think Joe Joyce Yoka, Hgrovic will beat Chisora tomorrow, and they will give Povetkin a good fight and may even win.

Povetkin v Tyson Fury I am really not sure, its fairly 50-50.

[funso banjo baby]

chisora loses to world class boxers

his record doesn't compare with Povetkin's at all.

[Lackeos]

Go ahead and tell me who Povetkin beat, that Chisora won't also beat. And outside of Kabayel, tell me who Povetkin would beat, that Chisora lost against.

Numerous people have already done that. You aren't listening.

[Luis Fernando12]

Povetkin beats Dillian Whyte, Pulev, Hughie Fury, Wach, Duhauppas, Miller, Joe Parker, Breazalle, Kownacki, Hammer, Jennings, Hekenius....... all those fighters will probably beat Dereck.

The arguement about unbeaten fighters is always a non sense, it means nothing, plently of 17-5 fighters are better than some 22-0 ones. Dereck at 29-8 is much better than many unbeaten ones.

A lot of Chisoras wins are against very poor fights. Povetkins resume is very high. Povetkin beats most he just struggles with the big heavyweights that are elite. Povetkin is past his best now though, he may or may not fight again, I would say a Luis Ortiz fight or a Wilder fight hes not certain to lose and it is nearly 50-50. Chisora v those is a 5 or 10% chance.

I also think Joe Joyce Yoka, Hgrovic will beat Chisora tomorrow, and they will give Povetkin a good fight and may even win.

Povetkin v Tyson Fury I am really not sure, its fairly 50-50.

Chisora also beat Whyte. I somehow can't envisage Povetkin at this point in his career, standing up to Whyte's power. Joseph Parker went 12 rounds and took Joshua's best punches without seeing the canvas once. Whilst he couldn't take Whyte's best punches without going down.

Parker's durability > Povetkin's durability. And if Whyte is dropping Parker twice, he is putting Povetkin inside a body bag.

What has Povetkin done recently that has been more impressive than Whyte's recent feats? Whyte put Lucas Browne in a stretcher and dropped Parker twice. Whilst Povetkin went 24 round against Jouryneymen Rudenko and Hammer without a single knockdown against either. Needed 5 rounds to KO a glass jawed David Price who has been stopped far quicker and more brutally by Turkish Erken Tepper. And was unable to even hurt Anthony Joshua with multiple of his best punches landing flush, whilst Whyte with a single left hook, hurt and stunned Joshua more than any punch Povektin landed on Joshua.

Whyte > Povetkin going by recent performances / feats. This isn't even up for debate!


Kubrat Pulev would jab Povetkin's head off. Any above average jab gives Povetkin fits. And Pulev has the best jab in the heavyweight division, especially his power jab. And no, Anthony Joshua's jab isn't above average. Joshua's jab is pretty poor for a super heavyweight. His main strengths are mid-range fighting and not outside boxing with a jab like Wladimir Klitshcko or Kubrat Pulev.

Povetkin is going to have his face rearranged, if not knocked off his head by the end of the fight against Pulev.

Joseph Parker is better if we go by current form. He also beats Povetkin.

Dereck Chisora either beats the rest, or he loses to them, the same way Povetkin does.

Jennings loses in a similar way to Chisora how Takam lost.

Hughie Fury is a question mark. Simply because we don't how much he has improved / will improve.

Chisora already beat Helenius but got robbed. He'll beat Helenius in a rematch and would beat Duhaupas, Kownacki and Brezeale,

Povetkin has always been afraid of unbeaten opponents. He's only faced opponents after they had already been exposed / beaten by someone else. Barring a few exceptions! Why couldn't Povetkin ever be a heavyweight titlist, when Bermane Stiverne and Charles Martins managed it? Why didn't Charles Martin and Bermane Stiverne have to fight Povetkin first, to becme a titlist, if Povetkin was such a top level boxer??

Povetin has a cherry picked and manufactured career.