wilder - fury

[ewenhay]

Am I the only one who thinks Fury can stop Wilder?

He can wear him down. Fury has always been active in his fights and has a good output. He can last a decent pace for the full 12. Throw in his significant weight advantage and he could drain Wilder before stopping him late

Wilder can definitely be stopped. Those who bring up Fury's early knockdown forget Wilder has been on the floor too.

Wilder is also in with someone who is quick enough and big enough to take advantage of his technical deficiencies this time too.

Most seem to think Wilder is nailed on to knock Fury out. But most thought Klitschko would knock him out too.

[candyslim]

@ LillywhiteE14: No there a quite a few seriously deluded people on here

[man]

Am I the only one who thinks Fury can stop Wilder?

for me it is totally open, this one could
go either way.

[man]

Tyson you're prostituting your status as the lineal champion never beaten in the ring, and a massive unification payout against Joshua by rushing back, when you're 80% to take on a task you can complete successfully if you're 95%+

If I'm wrong (and I do hope I am) then I will be back here with an apology, but I think you are fool to take on Wilder this year.

i was surprised by this quick move without
a really meaningful tuneup. credit where
credit is due, it is a gutsy move which he
did not have to make.

good thing for us boxing fans is that the top
three start mixing it up.

[Boxerbeetle]

Am I the only one who thinks Fury can stop Wilder?

He can wear him down. Fury has always been active in his fights and has a good output. He can last a decent pace for the full 12. Throw in his significant weight advantage and he could drain Wilder before stopping him late

I’d be extremely surprised tbh, I think Fury’s only feasible way of winning is to make it a snooze fest. I just can’t see him landing enough to stop Wilder.

[Ilya Muromets]

@ LillywhiteE14: No there a quite a few seriously deluded people on here

I resemble that remark!

[adislav123]

If wilder wins one round against fury, for real not on the scorecards, i will stop posting shit on here at once and forever. I know, i know, not that it would matter at all if i leave, just to underline my confidence in fury absolutely toying with wilder for as long as it may last

[SenorPipino]

Am I the only one who thinks Fury can stop Wilder?

He can wear him down. Fury has always been active in his fights and has a good output. He can last a decent pace for the full 12. Throw in his significant weight advantage and he could drain Wilder before stopping him late

I’d be extremely surprised tbh, I think Fury’s only feasible way of winning is to make it a snooze fest. I just can’t see him landing enough to stop Wilder.

That's absolutely what Fury will attempt to do. Make it a snoozefest.

Just like with with Klitschko.

What's Fury going to do? Bang with the best pure puncher in the game?

He'll drape his huge frame over Wilder. Clinch and grab. Push down. Try to use his weight advantage to wear out the champion.

Until Wilder explodes and takes Fury out of his misery, it has all the makings of a dreadful fight.

Some think Fury might take Wilder out? How many drinks for you today? Malignaggi would have a better chance.

Boos and whistles will ring throughout Staples December 1.

Fury fought scared against an aging Klitschko.

It's hard to imagine him being any less terrified of the potent Wilder.

[Best Coast]

Am I the only one who thinks Fury can stop Wilder?

He can wear him down. Fury has always been active in his fights and has a good output. He can last a decent pace for the full 12. Throw in his significant weight advantage and he could drain Wilder before stopping him late

I’d be extremely surprised tbh, I think Fury’s only feasible way of winning is to make it a snooze fest. I just can’t see him landing enough to stop Wilder.

That's absolutely what Fury will attempt to do. Make it a snoozefest.

Just like with with Klitschko.

What's Fury going to do? Bang with the best pure puncher in the game?

He'll drape his huge frame over Wilder. Clinch and grab. Push down. Try to use his weight advantage to wear out the champion.

Until Wilder explodes and takes Fury out of his misery, it has all the makings of a dreadful fight.

Some think Fury might take Wilder out? How many drinks for you today? Malignaggi would have a better chance.

Boos and whistles will ring throughout Staples December 1.

Fury fought scared against an aging Klitschko.

It's hard to imagine him being any less terrified of the potent Wilder.

You nailed it on Fury's best strategy. That's why Wilder needs to concentrate on taking him out early...in the first few rounds. Fury needs a few rounds to get warmed up. Both times he's been dropped (Cunningham in 2013, Pajkic in 2011) it was in the 2nd round, both times with overhand rights > one of Wilder's best punches.

[candyslim]

Tyson you're prostituting your status as the lineal champion never beaten in the ring, and a massive unification payout against Joshua by rushing back, when you're 80% to take on a task you can complete successfully if you're 95%+

If I'm wrong (and I do hope I am) then I will be back here with an apology, but I think you are fool to take on Wilder this year.

i was surprised by this quick move without
a really meaningful tuneup. credit where
credit is due, it is a gutsy move which he
did not have to make.

good thing for us boxing fans is that the top
three start mixing it up.

The line between bravery and stupidity is a thin one.

Personally I love the fight Fury v Wilder. I'm also quite fond of bananas, but I don't eat them when they are green as not only are they bloody awful, but it means that's one banana I won't ever get to enjoy when it's ripe,

Bananas are easily replaced. Fights between world level unbeaten heavyweights ... not so much.

[adislav123]

priceless! his stand up act is stage ready if you ask me! honestly, that is some funny shit!

[Thomastearns]

Am I the only one who thinks Fury can stop Wilder?

He can wear him down. Fury has always been active in his fights and has a good output. He can last a decent pace for the full 12. Throw in his significant weight advantage and he could drain Wilder before stopping him late

I’d be extremely surprised tbh, I think Fury’s only feasible way of winning is to make it a snooze fest. I just can’t see him landing enough to stop Wilder.

That's absolutely what Fury will attempt to do. Make it a snoozefest.

Just like with with Klitschko.

What's Fury going to do? Bang with the best pure puncher in the game?

He'll drape his huge frame over Wilder. Clinch and grab. Push down. Try to use his weight advantage to wear out the champion.

Until Wilder explodes and takes Fury out of his misery, it has all the makings of a dreadful fight.

Some think Fury might take Wilder out? How many drinks for you today? Malignaggi would have a better chance.

Boos and whistles will ring throughout Staples December 1.

Fury fought scared against an aging Klitschko.

It's hard to imagine him being any less terrified of the potent Wilder.

It's also hard to imagine anything more than 10% of the entertainment occurring inside the ring, if it actually goes ahead of course. Definitely one that has to be seen to be believed.

Still, the buildup should be good fun, as for once Fury's up against an opponent who can really dish it back.

[Thomastearns]

https://www.independent.co.uk/sport/gen ... 6.html?amp

Still some way to go to match the Mayweather - McGregor pantomime. But we still have 8 weeks left.

[candyslim]

I hope it is more competitive but I'm not holding my breath.

Mayweather knew exactly what he was doing picking McGregor for his megafight opponent, picking the pockets of those dopes who gave the Irishman a chance. Fury is nowhere near that level of no-hoper but Wilder is showing the same kind of intelligence, i mean who wants to risk a fight with a young turk with ambition like Parker, Miller or Whyte for example, when you can fight a 39 year old with a heart condition, and a man with mental health issues, who's abused his body for three years, and who has proved he is as good as he was three years ago by beating Albania's number two cruiserweight, and a man recently knocked out by a washed up Kevin Johnson.

It's fortunate that it hasn't made me cynical.

(To be fair I was very impressed with his performance against Ortiz, he showed real heart and endurance. I'm of the opinion, however that team Wilder were gambling on Ortiz being in terminal decline after his unimpressive displays against Malik Scott and Dave Allen and fighting another cab-driver would have met with howls of derision)

[man]

Tyson you're prostituting your status as the lineal champion never beaten in the ring, and a massive unification payout against Joshua by rushing back, when you're 80% to take on a task you can complete successfully if you're 95%+

If I'm wrong (and I do hope I am) then I will be back here with an apology, but I think you are fool to take on Wilder this year.

i was surprised by this quick move without
a really meaningful tuneup. credit where
credit is due, it is a gutsy move which he
did not have to make.

good thing for us boxing fans is that the top
three start mixing it up.

The line between bravery and stupidity is a thin one.

Personally I love the fight Fury v Wilder. I'm also quite fond of bananas, but I don't eat them when they are green as not only are they bloody awful, but it means that's one banana I won't ever get to enjoy when it's ripe,

Bananas are easily replaced. Fights between world level unbeaten heavyweights ... not so much.

true, but i love the idea that the heaviest
duck of them all faces a guy who does the
opposite.

[man]

priceless! his stand up act is stage ready if you ask me! honestly, that is some funny poo!

not willing to watch that whole thing, but
they really talked one hour ten minutes?

[candyslim]

I love to watch Deontay fight even if he's beating up an easy mark, he is probably even better to watch than Joshua, but I just cannot stand to listen to him spouting his shite about how he's the greatest and how everybody is ducking him.

It's going to get even worse when he ktfos Fury, can you imagine how insufferable he's going to be? It doesn't bear thinking about.

[Quantrax]

Am I the only one who thinks Fury can stop Wilder?

He can wear him down. Fury has always been active in his fights and has a good output. He can last a decent pace for the full 12. Throw in his significant weight advantage and he could drain Wilder before stopping him late

Active? Fury landed an average 7 punches per round against Wlad. That's not an active output .

However I agree that Wilder can be stopped if Fury wears him down as Deontay is clearly vulnerable himself.

[littlepug]

Am I the only one who thinks Fury can stop Wilder?

He can wear him down. Fury has always been active in his fights and has a good output. He can last a decent pace for the full 12. Throw in his significant weight advantage and he could drain Wilder before stopping him late

Its certainly possible, Fury needs to fight ugly and turn it into a wrestling match, use his height and weight to push and pull him about, lean on him and push him down, once the sting is out of his tail Fury can get to work properly and stop him late, its still a tough ask though.

[adislav123]

I don't see it that tough an affair, if fury steps out of range & keeps his guard up when wilder loads up on his overhand right bombs that you see coming for a mile, Wilder can't do shit to him. Fury doesn't have to rush in, he could hook of the jab AND step out of range while wilder tries to knock him out the whole fight. He just has to stick & move, keep jabbing away. If we won't see a vastly improved version of wilder, fury will have an easy night. If he decides to rough wilder up on the inside, wrestle him around, even better, he's the much stronger man. I'm trying not to make fun of wilder, but it's hard not to. I just really can't see him giving fury any trouble whatsoever. I might be wrong.

[Tony1244]

I picked Wilder because of his right hand. But I'm not dogmatic here. A Fury victory would not surprise me much.

[Noxy]

My concern about Fury (I‘m a fan) is that he’s not with his uncle anymore. Davison is unproven but I hope he can bring home the bacon.

A win for Tyson and we hit the jackpot (big Josh).

[Enlightened-One]

My concern about Fury (I‘m a fan) is that he’s not with his uncle anymore. Davison is unproven but I hope he can bring home the bacon.

A win for Tyson and we hit the jackpot (big Josh).

If a fighter feels compelled to split from his trainer, especially if they’re a family member, it means that their relationship isn’t working.

Fury has had mental health issues and clearly needed a complete change of scenery. He’s also in his thirties and perhaps it’s his physical and mental preparation that are the areas that he needs to focus on rather than refining his skills, because he’s already a highly-skilled and highly-experienced fighter.

I’m not saying that Tyson wouldn’t be a better fighter with his uncle in his corner, since nobody knows for sure, but this is the situation that Fury is currently faced with.

I personally feel that Peter Fury’s absence won’t significantly affect the outcome of this bout.

[Noxy]

My concern about Fury (I‘m a fan) is that he’s not with his uncle anymore. Davison is unproven but I hope he can bring home the bacon.

A win for Tyson and we hit the jackpot (big Josh).

If a fighter feels compelled to split from his trainer, especially if they’re a family member, it means that their relationship isn’t working.

Fury has had mental health issues and clearly needed a complete change of scenery. He’s also in his thirties and perhaps it’s his physical and mental preparation that are the areas that he needs to focus on rather than refining his skills, because he’s already a highly-skilled and highly-experienced fighter.

I’m not saying that Tyson wouldn’t be a better fighter with his uncle in his corner, since nobody knows for sure, but this is the situation that Fury is currently faced with.

I personally feel that Peter Fury’s absence won’t significantly affect the outcome of this bout.

Aye, but it's not just about Peter's absence. What about Davison? What has he got? I'd never heard of him before he hooked up with Tyson. I'm hoping he knows his game.

[Enlightened-One]

My concern about Fury (I‘m a fan) is that he’s not with his uncle anymore. Davison is unproven but I hope he can bring home the bacon.

A win for Tyson and we hit the jackpot (big Josh).

If a fighter feels compelled to split from his trainer, especially if they’re a family member, it means that their relationship isn’t working.

Fury has had mental health issues and clearly needed a complete change of scenery. He’s also in his thirties and perhaps it’s his physical and mental preparation that are the areas that he needs to focus on rather than refining his skills, because he’s already a highly-skilled and highly-experienced fighter.

I’m not saying that Tyson wouldn’t be a better fighter with his uncle in his corner, since nobody knows for sure, but this is the situation that Fury is currently faced with.

I personally feel that Peter Fury’s absence won’t significantly affect the outcome of this bout.

Aye, but it's not just about Peter's absence. What about Davison? What has he got? I'd never heard of him before he hooked up with Tyson. I'm hoping he knows his game.

Davidson worked with Billy Joe Saunders. I can't say if he's any good or not, but I can't really complain about Fury's physical and pugilistic performances against Sefer Seferi and Francesco Pianeta.

Fury needed the rounds against Pianeta, even though I feel he could have forced an early stoppage.

We’ve seen continuous and steep improvement trajectory in Tyson’s last two comeback bouts and that’s all we can ask for. I don’t know if it’s enough to overcome Deontay Wilder, but I do expect Fury to be much better than we saw him compete during August.

Let's give some credit to Ben Davidson though, because Tyson Fury’s official weight for the Francesco Pianeta fight was 258lbs, which is 18lbs lighter than what he weighed for the Sefer Seferi bout.

This is very close to his mathematically-calculated average weight for all 26 of his bouts that he has competed in to-date, which is 257¼lbs. His average weight during the last five years works out at 262½lbs.

That’s a remarkable physical transformation, especially considering Fury’s 135lbs weight loss! So Davidson is clearly doing something right.