Canelo vs Callum Smith at 168 lbs - who takes this and how ?

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Canelo vs Callum Smith at 168 lbs - who takes this and how ?

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How would 5′ 8″ / 173cm Canelo would deal with 6′ 3″ / 191cm Callum Smith ? I think there is not a coincidence that Canelo chose to fight Rocky Fielding (wba smw regular champ). Also Canelo fought Callum's brother- Liam Smith.
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Re: Canelo vs Callum Smith at 168 lbs - who takes this and how ?

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He'd be too much for smith

Would wear him down
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This won't be popular but if this fight is at 168 then Smith is too big. Alvarez's punches will just bounce off him. Reach advantage is massive too.

Smith isn't great and can be outboxed but not by Alvarez.

Alvarez would probably still get the decision mind you.
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Re: Canelo vs Callum Smith at 168 lbs - who takes this and how ?

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ewenhay wrote: 06 Oct 2018, 06:52 This won't be popular but if this fight is at 168 then Smith is too big. Alvarez's punches will just bounce off him. Reach advantage is massive too.

Smith isn't great and can be outboxed but not by Alvarez.

Alvarez would probably still get the decision mind you.
Yeah it's a big gap in size advantage but gingerboy is very skilled and powerful. His chin is strong too. He'd get lots of credit if he faces Callum.
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Canelo is significantly smaller, but still he's too much for Smith skill-wise. I guess, the first few rounds can appear to be even, but Canelo will gradually break Smith down to score the decision win.
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Oiky wrote: 06 Oct 2018, 05:57 He'd be too much for smith

Would wear him down
I'm really not sure you actually know your boxing. Do you actually know how giant sized Smith is? To suggest Canelo would wear him down is odd.
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DrDuke wrote: 06 Oct 2018, 09:19 Canelo is significantly smaller, but still he's too much for Smith skill-wise. I guess, the first few rounds can appear to be even, but Canelo will gradually break Smith down to score the decision win.
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liamlion wrote: 06 Oct 2018, 09:36
Oiky wrote: 06 Oct 2018, 05:57 He'd be too much for smith

Would wear him down
I'm really not sure you actually know your boxing. Do you actually know how giant sized Smith is? To suggest Canelo would wear him down is odd.
Body shots

Not odd at all

Do you really believe smith gives canelo all sorts of trouble
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liamlion wrote: 06 Oct 2018, 09:36
Oiky wrote: 06 Oct 2018, 05:57 He'd be too much for smith

Would wear him down
I'm really not sure you actually know your boxing. Do you actually know how giant sized Smith is? To suggest Canelo would wear him down is odd.
Let's not act like Callum is comparable to a prime Froch or Ward. Canelo at 168 would be very well built. It would be like a dozer vs a tall tree. Also there is a gap in skills, speed, etc in favor of Canelo.
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apollo creed wrote: 06 Oct 2018, 10:01
liamlion wrote: 06 Oct 2018, 09:36
Oiky wrote: 06 Oct 2018, 05:57 He'd be too much for smith

Would wear him down
I'm really not sure you actually know your boxing. Do you actually know how giant sized Smith is? To suggest Canelo would wear him down is odd.
Let's not act like Callum is comparable to a prime Froch or Ward. Canelo at 168 would be very well built. It would be like a dozer vs a tall tree. Also there is a gap in skills, speed, etc in favor of Canelo.
exactly how I see it, don't care what anyone says smith gets worn down
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Oiky wrote: 06 Oct 2018, 10:04
apollo creed wrote: 06 Oct 2018, 10:01
liamlion wrote: 06 Oct 2018, 09:36

I'm really not sure you actually know your boxing. Do you actually know how giant sized Smith is? To suggest Canelo would wear him down is odd.
Let's not act like Callum is comparable to a prime Froch or Ward. Canelo at 168 would be very well built. It would be like a dozer vs a tall tree. Also there is a gap in skills, speed, etc in favor of Canelo.
exactly how I see it, don't care what anyone says smith gets worn down
"don't care what anyone says" is an excellent premise for discussion. Why bother coming here, if the only opinion that matters is your own?
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adislav123 wrote: 06 Oct 2018, 11:34
Oiky wrote: 06 Oct 2018, 10:04
apollo creed wrote: 06 Oct 2018, 10:01

Let's not act like Callum is comparable to a prime Froch or Ward. Canelo at 168 would be very well built. It would be like a dozer vs a tall tree. Also there is a gap in skills, speed, etc in favor of Canelo.
exactly how I see it, don't care what anyone says smith gets worn down
"don't care what anyone says" is an excellent premise for discussion. Why bother coming here, if the only opinion that matters is your own?
I read all opinions and accept everyone has an opinion, I mean I don't care more in the sense that whatever people say about what smith can and can't do I still see canelo beating him , not that my opinion is the only one that matters just that other opinions won't change my opinion :doh: :lol:
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Re: Canelo vs Callum Smith at 168 lbs - who takes this and how ?

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The size will not matter. If Canelo is there at the final bell he will win a decision.
You can not win on the judges scorecard against Canelo :witzend:
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Okidoki oiky!👌Don't know if it was brought up already, guess yes, but how do you guy's think a fight canelo vs. Roberto Duran (the leonard/hagler/hearns version) would play out?
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I'd want to see this fight.
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smith should win this fight if he boxed clever and used his strengths , saul has got great experience fighting top fighters which smith doesn't, ill go smith ko
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DrDuke wrote: 06 Oct 2018, 09:19 Canelo is significantly smaller, but still he's too much for Smith skill-wise. I guess, the first few rounds can appear to be even, but Canelo will gradually break Smith down to score the decision win.
i think smith moves well for big man, and i think he has got fast hands and powerful, he dont throw ones, he throws combos . be surprised saul hears the bell. and iam huge saul fan
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brilo33 wrote: 06 Oct 2018, 15:25
DrDuke wrote: 06 Oct 2018, 09:19 Canelo is significantly smaller, but still he's too much for Smith skill-wise. I guess, the first few rounds can appear to be even, but Canelo will gradually break Smith down to score the decision win.
i think smith moves well for big man, and i think he has got fast hands and powerful, he dont throw ones, he throws combos . be surprised saul hears the bell. and iam huge saul fan
Canelo's chin is very good.
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DrDuke wrote: 06 Oct 2018, 15:31
brilo33 wrote: 06 Oct 2018, 15:25
DrDuke wrote: 06 Oct 2018, 09:19 Canelo is significantly smaller, but still he's too much for Smith skill-wise. I guess, the first few rounds can appear to be even, but Canelo will gradually break Smith down to score the decision win.
i think smith moves well for big man, and i think he has got fast hands and powerful, he dont throw ones, he throws combos . be surprised saul hears the bell. and iam huge saul fan
Canelo's chin is very good.
no doubt best about ,i thinking body as canelo will have to chase smith ,and use a lot of energy to get up close in range . smith has a good jab
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im not really sure that canelo would have to chase smith, id think theres a good chance canelo would get moving and make smith come forward. smith has a lot of strengths but foot speed isnt one of them btw, hes much sharper and faster with his hands then feet

would be real interesting, canelos p4p better i think but hed be giving up a lot of size and smith is a handy fighter himself
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I guess, if Smith will impose too much threat during the fight, Canelo will switch to GGG bout #1 mode, he will make Smith miss a lot and eventually outbox him.
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DrDuke wrote: 06 Oct 2018, 16:02 I guess, if Smith will impose too much threat during the fight, Canelo will switch to GGG bout #1 mode, he will make Smith miss a lot and eventually outbox him.
I tend to agree with that. Canelo will jump on his bike and will get a decision.
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He can do whatever the fick he wants fighting in vegas. He's the fornicating face of boxing and backed by corrupt shitmachine goldenboy, all he has to do is put in an acceptable effort and manage to stay on his feet. Go up, get the decision/belt/3 weight champ. Vacate. as he get's older he even could take the light-heavy belt & become 4 weight champ, but doesn´t change the fact that he´s a natural middleweight, the division he´s the most competitive in.
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Callum Smith to dangerous for Golden Boys liking hence the fight with the regular :lol: World Champ Rocky Fielding who not to long ago would have been called the mandatory or number 1 contender and what makes this Canelo v Fielding fight stink is that Smith already blew away Fielding in a single round nearly 3 years ago when they fought :brick: BUT AYE GOOD LUCK ROCKY AND HAPPY FOR YOU AND YOUR FAMILY FOR THE GOOD $$$$ MONEY AND THE HUGE OPPURTUNITY :bag:
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Re: Canelo vs Callum Smith at 168 lbs - who takes this and how ?

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apollo creed wrote: 06 Oct 2018, 05:26Canelo vs Callum Smith at 168 lbs - who takes this and how ?
These guys aren't going to fight each other anytime soon. It’s not going to happen before the start of 2020 at the very earliest.

Canelo is simply testing the waters at 168lbs, whilst taking the “easy” route to becoming a three-weight world champion (of sorts).

GBP will inevitably market the Alvarez-Fielding bout as a career-defining legacy fight, in order to justify another PPV event, and Canelo will almost certainly return to 160lbs immediately afterwards.

If Canelo does indeed face Callum Smith from 2020 onwards, don’t be surprised to see him demand that the Brit engage in a severely weight-draining 164lbs catchweight bout.

If Canelo fought Callum Smith during Cinco de Mayo 2020, then the Mexican would be facing a physically huge thirty-year old 6’ 3” man (that is accustomed to temporarily shifting an awful lot of weight in order to drain himself to make 168lbs) suffering greatly and also be at a huge disadvantage whilst trying his upmost to make 164lbs instead.

In that scenario, I’d favour Canelo to score a late stoppage victory or win a very wide decision. :TU:
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