Joshua's Power ... Rank it 1 to 10

[Heretic]

Gassiev has very good power but not 10. He doesen't have many one hit KO's. Just one if I remember right. Rest of hes stoppages have been by landing few back to back flush shots.

[candyslim]

First we would need to agree what having power of 10 means.

Someone said earlier that 10% of boxers have power of 10. I don't see it that way. Power of 10 is the max power that boxer can have. Or at least very close to it. So by my definition only very few boxers have power of 10. Guys like Lemieux and Kudryashov come to mind. I think that Wilder hits harder than Joshua.

For me Joshua is probably 9. Very good power but there is people who hit even harder. Especially pound for pound.

No, most fighters will be somewhere in the middle numbers. Eights will be well represented but far fewer than sevens, nines somewhat rare, and tens very scarce indeed. A ten must be achievable or the scale is effectively 1 - 9 but it shouldn't be such that (because ten is the maximum) you can have two fighters scoring ten yet one seems much harder hitting than the other.

I'd score Wilder a ten. He seems to me to be the hardest puncher currently active. Where does he stand in the all-time hardest hitting boxers - now there's a question, eh?

Gassiev may well be a ten as a cruiserweight but his punches are sure to have a lesser impact against men of 250 lbs than those of 200. I'd guess he would be about eight at heavyweight.

[Heretic]

First we would need to agree what having power of 10 means.

Someone said earlier that 10% of boxers have power of 10. I don't see it that way. Power of 10 is the max power that boxer can have. Or at least very close to it. So by my definition only very few boxers have power of 10. Guys like Lemieux and Kudryashov come to mind. I think that Wilder hits harder than Joshua.

For me Joshua is probably 9. Very good power but there is people who hit even harder. Especially pound for pound.

No, most fighters will be somewhere in the middle numbers. Eights will be well represented but far fewer than sevens, nines somewhat rare, and tens very scarce indeed. A ten must be achievable or the scale is effectively 1 - 9 but it shouldn't be such that (because ten is the maximum) you can have two fighters scoring ten yet one seems much harder hitting than the other.

I'd score Wilder a ten. He seems to me to be the hardest puncher currently active. Where does he stand in the all-time hardest hitting boxers - now there's a question, eh?

Gassiev may well be a ten as a cruiserweight but his punches are sure to have a lesser impact against men of 250 lbs than those of 200. I'd guess he would be about eight at heavyweight.

You see it just like I do.

[candyslim]

No mystery heretic. We are both sensible and reasonable men that have a firm grip on reality.

Most of the time, anyway

[Heretic]

No mystery heretic. We are both sensible and reasonable men that have a firm grip on reality.

Most of the time, anyway

[Luis Fernando12]

As I already stated, anyone with 10/10 power should be able to KO ANY and EVERY opponent, if they land flush power punches. This means, no opponent should / could EVER be TOO DURABLE for them to KO. If even one opponent has the durability to take flush power punches from a boxer, then they can never be qualified to have 10/10 power.

Deontay Wilder doesn't qualify to have 10/10 power. Since Johann Duhaupas was too durable for Wilder's power to be sufficient enough to drop, never mind KO him.

Anthony Joshua also doesn't qualify. Since his own power wasn't sufficient enough to even drop Joseph Parker.

Wladimir Klitschko doesn't qualify either. Since Ross Purity was too durable for Wlad's power to be sufficient enough to drop Purity, along with many other opponents Wladimir Klitschko faced, that he couldn't even drop, never mind KO.

Even Julian Jackson doesn't qualify. Since his power wasn't sufficient enough to breach the durability of Mike McCallum and Gerald Mclellan, who ate his punches like candy.

In other words, 10/10 power is currently a myth. No such boxer exists today that has genuine 10/10 power.

[candyslim]

Does that not suggest to you that your criterion - that a 10/10 fighter ought to be able to knock anyone out clean everytime - is unreasonable?

On any scale of 1 to 10, the 10 has to be achievable or the scale becomes 1 - 9. If no one qualifies as a 10 then you need to review your expectations, surely.

[ValMar]

Does that not suggest to you that your criterion - that a 10/10 fighter ought to be able to knock anyone out clean everytime - is unreasonable?

On any scale of 1 to 10, the 10 has to be achievable or the scale becomes 1 - 9. If no one qualifies as a 10 then you need to review your expectations, surely.

You are right !

[Lackeos]

The way I define a 1-10 power scale is...

1 - 4: You are either in a coma, dead, or paralyzed. Either way, you can't even move your arms, let alone exert a non-zero amount of force with your arms.
5 - 6: Realistic levels of power that human boxers are actually capable of.
7: You can literally one-punch KO any other boxer in history, including opponents with a 6/10 chin (6/10 is basically the strongest chin that any human has ever had).
8: You literally kill every opponent with the first punch you land.
9: One head punch will decapitate the opponent's head and send it sailing into the crowd.
10: Even a blocked punch would cause the opponent to explode into a million tiny pieces of guts.

Are there any flaws in defining the scale this way which would make it an idiotic scale? Should a 1 - 10 scale be defined in such a way that a 10 is realistic and achievable? Should the scale be balanced in some way, so that there are roughly equal amounts of boxers falling into each integer value? Is there any sensible reason why a power scale would be defined such that most boxers fall into a few integer values (like 5) and almost none fall into other integer values (like 10)? If 10 corresponds to some sort of unattainable perfection that no fighter in history has achieved, then isn't it basically a 1 - 9 scale? If Joshua rates a 9 on a 1 to 9 scale, isn't that the same as rating a 10 on a non-idiotic 1 to 10 scale?

[ValMar]

Does that not suggest to you that your criterion - that a 10/10 fighter ought to be able to knock anyone out clean everytime - is unreasonable?

On any scale of 1 to 10, the 10 has to be achievable or the scale becomes 1 - 9. If no one qualifies as a 10 then you need to review your expectations, surely.

You are right !

Lackeos, please read this post again.

[candyslim]

Lackeos agrees with us Valmar. His post is ironic i.e. he is putting forward an exaggerated example of what Luis was saying in order to illustrate the absurdity of Luis's position - LF arguing in favour of.a scale which is impossible to attain full marks in.

I guess he's English. We do like to use irony

[ValMar]

Lackeos agrees with us Valmar. His post is ironic i.e. he is putting forward an exaggerated example of what Luis was saying in order to illustrate the absurdity of Luis's position - LF arguing in favour of.a scale which is impossible to attain full marks in.

I guess he's English. We do like to use irony

Stupid Balkan boy !

[candyslim]

Lackeos agrees with us Valmar. His post is ironic i.e. he is putting forward an exaggerated example of what Luis was saying in order to illustrate the absurdity of Luis's position - LF arguing in favour of.a scale which is impossible to attain full marks in.

I guess he's English. We do like to use irony

Stupid Balkan boy !

Not at all. A process used for working out if a post is ironic:

The post is clearly nuts ...

1) Check to see if it was written by Luis Fernando or someone else with a somewhat unique take on reality. If yes, post can be taken at face value.

2) If it's written by someone who is usually pretty sensible and who really ought to know better, the chances are he is being ironic and meaning exactly the opposite to what has been written. Read it that way. See if it works.

p.s. Luis is clearly correct in his theory about the relative heights of boxers. That is why Julius Long is very close to unbeatable.

Easy, isn't it?

[TooMuch]

I'd say Joshua is 9, Wilder is 10.

[adislav123]

Luis fernando view of boxing is purely fantasy based (titanic behemoths & tiny dwarfs etc.) needs clearly no exaggeration, the original shit (if you're man enough to stomach his litanies, i'm clearly not) is hilarious enough. Btw: qhere is that famed ignore button, just can't find it?

[dagilechia]

Luis fernando view of boxing is purely fantasy based (titanic behemoths & tiny dwarfs etc.) needs clearly no exaggeration, the original poo (if you're man enough to stomach his litanies, i'm clearly not) is hilarious enough. Btw: qhere is that famed ignore button, just can't find it?

You must enter someone's profile (click on the nickname) and there you got the "add foe" button - i guess that's what you're looking for.

[adislav123]

[candyslim]

I'd say Joshua is 9, Wilder is 10.

Not even close. Joshua is 28, Wilder is 32

Joshua's birthday is exactly one week before Wilder's. Happy birthday for next week and the week after, guys.

[Heretic]

I'd say Joshua is 9, Wilder is 10.

Not even close. Joshua is 28, Wilder is 32

Joshua's birthday is exactly one week before Wilder's. Happy birthday for next week and the week after, guys.

Maybe hes talking about the mental age?

[Tony1244]

8

[candyslim]

Ouch. That's harsh Heretic .

[adislav123]

A punch is physics, delivering it in a proper way that means nighty night for your foe needs repetition, going through the same motions from different angles in training 8ver and over again, still a punch removed one inch from the sweet spot you may be able to shake off. A split second, blink of an eye that you see a punch to late or not is the difference if you can take (ride with it or not) it or it takes you out.

The concept of 1-10 punching power scale is usable for boxing computer games only. 6-12, 75-99, 800-1000 whjat the fornicate ever is an artificial power scale, nothing to do with reality.

Take the fun machines that measure punching power: if accurate or not, what i've seen hard punches by non professionals teeing of full force make it go up to 880, 900, 930 what do i know... who cares, what does it matter. My point is: you think wilder's fist full throttle smashed into that pad will make that machine explode, the digits shoe 999!?? Jodhua whacks that shit machine! It shows 899 or 900! how in hell should it make sense stating wilder's power is 10, fury's 9 whatever please!?