Different Types of Punchers in Boxing?

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Enlightened-One
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Different Types of Punchers in Boxing?

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I’d like to discuss a topic that I have briefly mentioned on different threads, which relates to the defining the various types of punchers competing in the sport of boxing.

The objective is to produce a definition of a “big puncher”. Is it solely the brute force a fighter can generate behind a single shot (i.e. the mass of their fist multiplied by the velocity of their arm movement) or is it more about the success rate of achieving stoppage victories? And if it’s neither of those, then should we classify punch types instead?

For instance, to plagiarise the terminology used by Stephen "Breadman" Edwards, puncher’s can be categorised accordingly:

Electric Slasher:
• Deontay Wilder

Heavy handed Debilitator:
• Murat Gassiev
• Genady Golovkin
• Mikey Garcia
• Errol Spence Jr.

Speed Thudder:
• Adonis Stevenson
• Anthony Joshua
• Monster Inuoe”
• Gervonta Davis

Swordsmen:
• Krusher Kovalev

Where:

Swordsmen = Punches where their sharpness results in delayed reactions (like Thomas Hearns). You don't see their shots thrown, so they land like a sucker punch.

Heavy handed debilitator = Heavy handed boom, boom, boom type punches that ruins their opponents (like Marvin Hagler and Julio Cesar Chavez Jr.)

Electric Slashers = Throws slashing, punishing shots. They need their entire bodies to generate the electric energy (like: Ray Leonard, Shane Mosley, Manny Pacquiao, Roy Jones etc.). For instance, you couldn't class George Foreman as an "Electric Slasher", because he didn't need to use the leverage of his entire body (like Wilder does) to generate the power behind his shots. He sort of just let his hands go whilst standing upright.

Speed Thudders = The best puncher ever when you combine power, accuracy, technique and punch delivery (like Joe Louis, Bob Foster, Julian Jackson, Roberto Duran, Mike Tyson)

Bludgeon Crew = This is usually a man strong enough to punch through anything (like George Foreman). It doesn’t matter if their opponents hands are up or not. Punchers like this don’t care what they hit because they hurt and break everything (like Sonny Liston, David Tua, Marcos Maidana, Gerald McClellan, Earnie Shavers etc.). The difference between a "Heavy handed Debilitator" and a member of the "Bludgeon Crew" relates to the fact that those classified as the former are usually fundamentally sound (i.e. GGG, Hagler), whereas members of the latter simply punch very hard, whilst adopting an unrefined fighting style (i.e. Foreman, Maidana).

For example:

• A skilled fighter like GGG lacks the sword-like speed of a "Swordsmen", so he should be classed as a "Heavy Handed Debilitator", because his opponents are covering up and bracing for the onslaught.

Therefore, I don’t classify a “big puncher” using one-dimensional criteria, because stoppages can be forced in a variety of ways, such as via a one-punch KO achieved by a lightning-fast straight right hand thrown with surgical precision or resulting from the cumulative effect of consecutively-landed heavy blows.

Thoughts? :-?
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Post by Boxerbeetle »

I don’t really have anything to add, but certainly agree there are different types of punchers.

I’ve always been fascinated by guys like Foreman who could generate so much power without seemingly putting much effort into his shots.
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I remember, you've posted this in the comments of some other thread, then we've modified it a bit. A good classification, it describes everything well.
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DrDuke wrote: 09 Oct 2018, 11:11 I remember, you've posted this in the comments of some other thread, then we've modified it a bit. A good classification, it describes everything well.
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That's it, all very hard punchers, different kinds of delivery,however you classify/call them but surely not on a 8, 9, 10 scale, that's for videogames, doesn't apply in reality whatsoever.
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Very good post.
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when you see a big man hit a heavy bag in the gym you know he is heavy handed cause his punches make the bag jump. you hear the chain bounce up and down and you see the bag do a hiccup. for most guys the bag just sways smoothly when hit. but the physics for a heavy handed big man are different. their punches have a thump.
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Post by Ricky »

Wtf is this hocus pocus? Are you trying to turn boxing into pokemon? Terrible post.

'Swordsman'... :doh:
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Post by greg »

..what about arm punchers like Vitali Klitschko (about 90% KO ratio)? Where would they belong?
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You have all the basics settled, speed, power, technique.

But what will make you a better puncher is to actually convince yourself to be heavy handed. Try to visualize your fist being made of iron, weighing 5 fornicate! 15 pounds!, your fist is a wrecking ball on a stick and at will you aim it at & effortlessly through the target with your whole body as the driving force behind it.

Add some seriously bad intentions & brutality, imagine actually denting in your foe's head with every punch, caving it in completely rearranging his facial features into a bloody pulp.

Accompany your punches with vocal outbursts! Shout from the top of your lungs USHHH!!! TUSHHH!! WHAMM! BAMMM!! BLAMMM!! WHACKK! SMACK! THUDD! BRADDACKKKK! CARRAMBA!! KARRRACHO!!! or CHUCKK! or scream FVCK! FVCK! fornicate! or whatever you like, but let it out!

Breathe!

Let it all out!

Don't load up on your punches, keep em' sweet and short.

Try it!
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adislav123 wrote: 09 Oct 2018, 17:52 You have all the basics settled, speed, power, technique.

But what will make you a better puncher is to actually convince yourself to be heavy handed. Try to visualize your fist being made of iron, weighing 5 eff! 15 pounds!, your fist is a wrecking ball on a stick and at will you aim it at & effortlessly through the target with your whole body as the driving force behind it.

Add some seriously bad intentions & brutality, imagine actually denting in your foe's head with every punch, caving it in completely rearranging his facial features into a bloody pulp.

Accompany your punches with vocal outbursts! Shout from the top of your lungs USHHH!!! TUSHHH!! WHAMM! BAMMM!! BLAMMM!! WHACKK! SMACK! THUDD! BRADDACKKKK! CARRAMBA!! KARRRACHO!!! or CHUCKK! or scream FVCK! FVCK! eff! or whatever you like, but let it out!

Breathe!

Let it all out!

Don't load up on your punches, keep em' sweet and short.

Try it!
Kalan!!
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adislav123 wrote: 09 Oct 2018, 17:52 You have all the basics settled, speed, power, technique.

But what will make you a better puncher is to actually convince yourself to be heavy handed. Try to visualize your fist being made of iron, weighing 5 eff! 15 pounds!, your fist is a wrecking ball on a stick and at will you aim it at & effortlessly through the target with your whole body as the driving force behind it.

Add some seriously bad intentions & brutality, imagine actually denting in your foe's head with every punch, caving it in completely rearranging his facial features into a bloody pulp.

Accompany your punches with vocal outbursts! Shout from the top of your lungs USHHH!!! TUSHHH!! WHAMM! BAMMM!! BLAMMM!! WHACKK! SMACK! THUDD! BRADDACKKKK! CARRAMBA!! KARRRACHO!!! or CHUCKK! or scream FVCK! FVCK! eff! or whatever you like, but let it out!

Breathe!

Let it all out!

Don't load up on your punches, keep em' sweet and short.

Try it!
bob foster used to hit heavy bags with a 1 pound weight in his hand.



he says punching with a 1 pound weight in his hand turned his jab into a brick. you ever hit anything with weights on your hands? your punches get more thump.
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Post by adislav123 »

I used to torture the heavybag with some light ankleweights wrapped tight around the lower part of the gloves! Much more exhausting but yeah a pound or maybe 2 is enough. More weight fucks with your coordination & delivery
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lazboy wrote: 09 Oct 2018, 18:27
adislav123 wrote: 09 Oct 2018, 17:52 You have all the basics settled, speed, power, technique.

But what will make you a better puncher is to actually convince yourself to be heavy handed. Try to visualize your fist being made of iron, weighing 5 eff! 15 pounds!, your fist is a wrecking ball on a stick and at will you aim it at & effortlessly through the target with your whole body as the driving force behind it.

Add some seriously bad intentions & brutality, imagine actually denting in your foe's head with every punch, caving it in completely rearranging his facial features into a bloody pulp.

Accompany your punches with vocal outbursts! Shout from the top of your lungs USHHH!!! TUSHHH!! WHAMM! BAMMM!! BLAMMM!! WHACKK! SMACK! THUDD! BRADDACKKKK! CARRAMBA!! KARRRACHO!!! or CHUCKK! or scream FVCK! FVCK! eff! or whatever you like, but let it out!

Breathe!

Let it all out!

Don't load up on your punches, keep em' sweet and short.

Try it!
Kalan!!
yep its defo him
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Post by adislav123 »

As much as it flatters my little ego, to be considered an alter one of such a monumental cranky pudendum as the late great kalan was. Take a closer look u dumb nuts!

I apologize right away, didn't mean it. Just a fun figure of speech. To the contrary, you are very sweet guys!
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