Billy Joe Saunders fails drug test (talk about hitting rock bottom)
Re: Billy Joe Saunders fails drug test (talk about hitting rock bottom)
So first canelo gets no real punishment for his fail and now a failed test that somehow isn't a fail. fornicating sport is a joke.
Re: Billy Joe Saunders fails drug test (talk about hitting rock bottom)
i just dont get the whole argument that under bbbc and uk rules its fine, so therefore no biggie. the fights not in uk and he agreed to vada testing and conditions
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ya bjs called him a pedo
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So let me get this right.
VADA tested him and he tested positive for a drug that is on their banned list but isn’t banned in either the U.K. or Massachusetts? And it’s somehting he’s allowed to use except on the day of the fight?
So this is a complete non-story?
Dan Rafael needs to be careful breaking stories like that.
VADA tested him and he tested positive for a drug that is on their banned list but isn’t banned in either the U.K. or Massachusetts? And it’s somehting he’s allowed to use except on the day of the fight?
So this is a complete non-story?
Dan Rafael needs to be careful breaking stories like that.
Re: Billy Joe Saunders fails drug test (talk about hitting rock bottom)
what are the massachussets rules? what do they follow
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Re: Billy Joe Saunders fails drug test (talk about hitting rock bottom)
To get a message to you? It's only words; Joe wins again.
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Re: Billy Joe Saunders fails drug test (talk about hitting rock bottom)
I went to a Boots pharmacy in Sheffield last week. In front of me in the queue was Brother Awad. He was buying a Vicks spray. He could of easily bought the rub, but he seemed desperate for the spray.
I’m not pointing fingers but he didn’t sound bunged up and he had mischief in his eyes.
I’m not pointing fingers but he didn’t sound bunged up and he had mischief in his eyes.
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Re: Billy Joe Saunders fails drug test (talk about hitting rock bottom)
It can’t be that much of a non-story, Hearn said yesterday it’s 50-50 that Saunders will get stripped of his title. All comes down to what the Massachusetts commission decides apparently.Covfefe wrote: ↑28 Sep 2018, 20:09 So let me get this right.
VADA tested him and he tested positive for a drug that is on their banned list but isn’t banned in either the U.K. or Massachusetts? And it’s somehting he’s allowed to use except on the day of the fight?
So this is a complete non-story?
Dan Rafael needs to be careful breaking stories like that.
Interview is here, BJS stuff starts around 6:30:
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Re: Billy Joe Saunders fails drug test (talk about hitting rock bottom)
PredatorHayds wrote: ↑29 Sep 2018, 04:42 I went to a Boots pharmacy in Sheffield last week. In front of me in the queue was Brother Awad. He was buying a Vicks spray. He could of easily bought the rub, but he seemed desperate for the spray.
I’m not pointing fingers but he didn’t sound bunged up and he had mischief in his eyes.
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I love Kalle Sauerland's interview bomb at about 9:50!Boxerbeetle wrote: ↑29 Sep 2018, 04:53It can’t be that much of a non-story, Hearn said yesterday it’s 50-50 that Saunders will get stripped of his title. All comes down to what the Massachusetts commission decides apparently.Covfefe wrote: ↑28 Sep 2018, 20:09 So let me get this right.
VADA tested him and he tested positive for a drug that is on their banned list but isn’t banned in either the U.K. or Massachusetts? And it’s somehting he’s allowed to use except on the day of the fight?
So this is a complete non-story?
Dan Rafael needs to be careful breaking stories like that.
Interview is here, BJS stuff starts around 6:30:
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Re: Billy Joe Saunders fails drug test (talk about hitting rock bottom)
I fvcking love Kallecmdenny wrote: ↑29 Sep 2018, 07:30I love Kalle Sauerland's interview bomb at about 9:50!Boxerbeetle wrote: ↑29 Sep 2018, 04:53It can’t be that much of a non-story, Hearn said yesterday it’s 50-50 that Saunders will get stripped of his title. All comes down to what the Massachusetts commission decides apparently.Covfefe wrote: ↑28 Sep 2018, 20:09 So let me get this right.
VADA tested him and he tested positive for a drug that is on their banned list but isn’t banned in either the U.K. or Massachusetts? And it’s somehting he’s allowed to use except on the day of the fight?
So this is a complete non-story?
Dan Rafael needs to be careful breaking stories like that.
Interview is here, BJS stuff starts around 6:30:
Re: Billy Joe Saunders fails drug test (talk about hitting rock bottom)
..Kalle's a character
..wonder what kind of nasal spray he's been using 
Re: Billy Joe Saunders fails drug test (talk about hitting rock bottom)
so maybe not just some irresponsibly reported, non-story then, eh?
some fake 'fake news' perhaps?
some fake 'fake news' perhaps?
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Re: Billy Joe Saunders fails drug test (talk about hitting rock bottom)
Oh dear. Shame as it would have been an interesting fight. A bigger draw / more popular guy would probably have gotten away with it.
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ya, great stuff, finnFinn wrote: ↑28 Sep 2018, 11:10Vada have the best screening system so this has flagged up, but the results are passed to the sanctioning bodies who have their list of prohibited drugs. No sanctioning board in boxing prohibits this stimulant during training as it only lasts 12 hours. It’s banned within 24 hours of a fight, basically VADA yellow flagged it and fat Dan broke a false story. It’s a storm in a teacup he’s allowed to take the stimulant and that’s about that.
it was all just a false story by irresponsible dan rafael
and absolutely no one in the world prohibits this substance or will have a problem with it being used.
and 'thats about that', because a fr@ank warren press release said so
no biggie, fight going ahead, it was all just fake news mate!!! lol!
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This new story about the fight being off and Saunders being stripped by the WBO is more leaked bs from fat dan. Completely made up and that’s about that.jamamb wrote: ↑09 Oct 2018, 18:15ya, great stuff, finnFinn wrote: ↑28 Sep 2018, 11:10Vada have the best screening system so this has flagged up, but the results are passed to the sanctioning bodies who have their list of prohibited drugs. No sanctioning board in boxing prohibits this stimulant during training as it only lasts 12 hours. It’s banned within 24 hours of a fight, basically VADA yellow flagged it and fat Dan broke a false story. It’s a storm in a teacup he’s allowed to take the stimulant and that’s about that.
it was all just a false story by irresponsible dan rafael
and absolutely no one in the world prohibits this substance or will have a problem with it being used.
and 'thats about that', because a fr@ank warren press release said so
no biggie, fight going ahead, it was all just fake news mate!!! lol!
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lol, so its all fake about msac denying him a liscense and that?
its all fake that bjs-andrade is off?
lmao, okay finn, its all just a big conspiracy by dan rafael!
its all fake that bjs-andrade is off?
lmao, okay finn, its all just a big conspiracy by dan rafael!
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Re: Billy Joe Saunders fails drug test (talk about hitting rock bottom)
It is odd that there doesn’t seem to be an official statement yet, but even Andrade has retweeted about it so presumably it must be true.Finn wrote: ↑09 Oct 2018, 19:05This new story about the fight being off and Saunders being stripped by the WBO is more leaked bs from fat dan. Completely made up and that’s about that.jamamb wrote: ↑09 Oct 2018, 18:15ya, great stuff, finnFinn wrote: ↑28 Sep 2018, 11:10
Vada have the best screening system so this has flagged up, but the results are passed to the sanctioning bodies who have their list of prohibited drugs. No sanctioning board in boxing prohibits this stimulant during training as it only lasts 12 hours. It’s banned within 24 hours of a fight, basically VADA yellow flagged it and fat Dan broke a false story. It’s a storm in a teacup he’s allowed to take the stimulant and that’s about that.
it was all just a false story by irresponsible dan rafael
and absolutely no one in the world prohibits this substance or will have a problem with it being used.
and 'thats about that', because a fr@ank warren press release said so
no biggie, fight going ahead, it was all just fake news mate!!! lol!
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if it were all just fake i highly doubt warren/bjs etc would be keeping silent about it for now while all sorts of mainstream press and major fight writers say msac denied him and andrade is now fighting this namibian
the wbo pres has talked about it too
the wbo pres has talked about it too
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Everyone knows Dan Raf controls the sanctioning bodies. He personally signed the paperwork allowing Canelo to fight after his failed drugs test and then put £1mil of his own money given to him by Terrance Crawford on Canelo to win on points against GGG. He fell out with BJS and now false story after false story about BJS and if it isn’t a false story he personally signed off the paperwork stopping BJS from fighting. And that’s about that.