Whyte v Ortiz

Spiker · Post by **Spiker** » 12 Oct 2018, 03:56

I’m hearing this is happening in December is there any merit to this? I’m hoping so as it’s a better fight than going over old ground with Chisora

Oiky · Post by **Oiky** » 12 Oct 2018, 03:57

I don't think edward has the balls to put it on

Spiker · Post by **Spiker** » 12 Oct 2018, 04:27

Well that’s what I thought too. Would be a good pre Christmas fight if it does become true.

skanksta · Post by **skanksta** » 12 Oct 2018, 05:28

Oiky wrote: ↑12 Oct 2018, 03:57 I don't think edward has the balls to put it on

Why ?
Whyte would be favourite to win.

fightfan95 · Post by **fightfan95** » 12 Oct 2018, 05:30

Think this would be a great fight. I'd rather see this than the Chisora rematch.

However, I think the likelihood of the Chisora rematch is a higher possibility than the Ortiz fight.

Oiky · Post by **Oiky** » 12 Oct 2018, 05:40

skanksta wrote: ↑12 Oct 2018, 05:28
Oiky wrote: ↑12 Oct 2018, 03:57 I don't think edward has the balls to put it on
Why ?
Whyte would be favourite to win.

I know, id back Whyte, just don't reckon Hearn will make this fight , he has other ideas for Whyte I reckon , like chisora rematch

skanksta · Post by **skanksta** » 12 Oct 2018, 05:59

Oiky wrote: ↑12 Oct 2018, 05:40
skanksta wrote: ↑12 Oct 2018, 05:28
Oiky wrote: ↑12 Oct 2018, 03:57 I don't think edward has the balls to put it on
Why ?
Whyte would be favourite to win.
I know, id back Whyte, just don't reckon Hearn will make this fight , he has other ideas for Whyte I reckon , like chisora rematch

ok, well I'll disagree with something else then...

I know it's fun to bash 'Fast Eddie' but is Whyte vs Del Boy really a worse fight than Oritz ?

I'd probablyprefer to see Whyte vs Ortiz, but Whyte vs Del 1 was one of the best UK fights of the last few years

Awesome battle, no clear winner. (I had DB 115-113) and we ALL want to see the pre-fight trash talk.

Those two just can't help themselves !

Oiky · Post by **Oiky** » 12 Oct 2018, 06:05

skanksta wrote: ↑12 Oct 2018, 05:59
Oiky wrote: ↑12 Oct 2018, 05:40
skanksta wrote: ↑12 Oct 2018, 05:28

Why ?
Whyte would be favourite to win.
I know, id back Whyte, just don't reckon Hearn will make this fight , he has other ideas for Whyte I reckon , like chisora rematch
ok, well I'll disagree with something else then...

I know it's fun to bash 'Fast Eddie' but is Whyte vs Del Boy really a worse fight than Oritz ?
I'd probablyprefer to see Whyte vs Ortiz, but Whyte vs Del 1 was one of the best UK fights of the last few years
Awesome battle, no clear winner. (I had DB 115-113) and we ALL want to see the pre-fight trash talk.
Those two just can't help themselves !

I wouldlnt mind either fight pal but, like you, I'd prefer Whyte-Ortiz

skanksta · Post by **skanksta** » 12 Oct 2018, 06:27

Eddie should make Whyte vs Ortiz, but hire DelBoy to do the Cuban's trash-talking

MarkMcBurney · Post by **MarkMcBurney** » 12 Oct 2018, 06:29

skanksta wrote: ↑12 Oct 2018, 05:59
Oiky wrote: ↑12 Oct 2018, 05:40
skanksta wrote: ↑12 Oct 2018, 05:28

Why ?
Whyte would be favourite to win.
I know, id back Whyte, just don't reckon Hearn will make this fight , he has other ideas for Whyte I reckon , like chisora rematch
ok, well I'll disagree with something else then...

I know it's fun to bash 'Fast Eddie' but is Whyte vs Del Boy really a worse fight than Oritz ?
I'd probablyprefer to see Whyte vs Ortiz, but Whyte vs Del 1 was one of the best UK fights of the last few years
Awesome battle, no clear winner. (I had DB 115-113) and we ALL want to see the pre-fight trash talk.
Those two just can't help themselves !

I don't think many people are arguing that Whyte v Chisora 2 would be entertaining, but making it a standalone PPV fight is an utter nonsense IMO. Whyte v Ortiz is a little more interesting IMO but still not a standalone PPV fight.

Oiky · Post by **Oiky** » 12 Oct 2018, 07:01

They aren't standalone Ppv fights na but you can bet they will be it's just boxing these days

Boxerbeetle · Post by **Boxerbeetle** » 12 Oct 2018, 13:21

Definitely not a PPV fight. If I was Hearn, I’d consider putting it (or a similar fight) on regular Sky and then promoting the fvck out of it on SSN, just to damage the BT PPV.

tiny_acres · Post by **tiny_acres** » 12 Oct 2018, 13:24

Boxerbeetle wrote: ↑12 Oct 2018, 13:21 Definitely not a PPV fight. If I was Hearn, I’d consider putting it (or a similar fight) on regular Sky and then promoting the fvck out of it on SSN, just to damage the BT PPV.

Smart move hitting the competition where it hurts.

keirw · Post by **keirw** » 12 Oct 2018, 14:17

The problem with Whyte vs Chisora is that both men are expecting a 7 figure payday from it, which sky wont cough up without PPV.

Ortiz is a tougher fight for Whyte, but will probably want less money. It will still end up on PPV, but on the plus side, Ortiz's smaller purse should leave more funds for a better undercard (in theory).

Nightmare Roy · Post by **Nightmare Roy** » 12 Oct 2018, 14:31

Boxerbeetle wrote: ↑12 Oct 2018, 13:21 Definitely not a PPV fight. If I was Hearn, I’d consider putting it (or a similar fight) on regular Sky and then promoting the fvck out of it on SSN, just to damage the BT PPV.

Wether it's ppv or free view, it's obviously what he's doing anyway having it on the same night.

Boxerbeetle · Post by **Boxerbeetle** » 12 Oct 2018, 14:46

Nightmare Roy wrote: ↑12 Oct 2018, 14:31
Boxerbeetle wrote: ↑12 Oct 2018, 13:21 Definitely not a PPV fight. If I was Hearn, I’d consider putting it (or a similar fight) on regular Sky and then promoting the fvck out of it on SSN, just to damage the BT PPV.
Wether it's ppv or free view, it's obviously what he's doing anyway having it on the same night.

Well yeah, but he runs the risk of that backfiring if he puts on a PPV that’s significantly weaker than the BT one - and Whyte-Ortiz is definitely weaker imo. So I think he’d be better off putting on a strong card on regular Sky and attracting viewers that way.

lillywhite14 · Post by **lillywhite14** » 12 Oct 2018, 15:36

Whyte wins this and he is undoubtedly number 3 in the division behind Joshua and the Fury/Wilder winner.

smiling assassin · Post by **smiling assassin** » 12 Oct 2018, 15:46

whytes as game as they come and will fight anyone but He's just not world level, Ortiz that fought Wilder takes him apart

tiny_acres · Post by **tiny_acres** » 12 Oct 2018, 16:16

smiling assassin wrote: ↑12 Oct 2018, 15:46 whytes as game as they come and will fight anyone but He's just not world level, Ortiz that fought Wilder takes him apart

100% agree with you

Stuarty · Post by **Stuarty** » 12 Oct 2018, 18:19

If Ortiz is prepare properly then he beats Whyte but if there's any weaknesses at all then Whyte will grind him down and exploit any chinks!

Is it 22nd Dec? Most hardcore fans would choose the BT PPV that night.....

Ruthless-RKO · Post by **Ruthless-RKO** » 12 Oct 2018, 18:37

Why has December become the money month? Why can’t some just wait til Jan then fight 3 times next year?

KiwiRider · Post by **KiwiRider** » 12 Oct 2018, 20:34

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑12 Oct 2018, 18:37 Why has December become the money month? Why can’t some just wait til Jan then fight 3 times next year?

Why can't you accept some guys want to pig out at Christmas and perhaps have to spend time with their families- thus don't have a hope of making weight until February at least

skanksta · Post by **skanksta** » 13 Oct 2018, 09:38

tiny_acres wrote: ↑12 Oct 2018, 13:24
Boxerbeetle wrote: ↑12 Oct 2018, 13:21 Definitely not a PPV fight. If I was Hearn, I’d consider putting it (or a similar fight) on regular Sky and then promoting the fvck out of it on SSN, just to damage the BT PPV.
Smart move hitting the competition where it hurts.

yeah - very sneaky !

Loads of people would watch Whyte v Chisora for free over Wilder vs Fury PPV.

Plus..., why does every big(ish) fight suddenly have to be PPV ?

There's still a fair bit of money in selling out the O2 (sure it would) and selling the fight overseas etc - enough for everyone to get paid, Shirley ?

tiny_acres · Post by **tiny_acres** » 13 Oct 2018, 09:41

skanksta wrote: ↑13 Oct 2018, 09:38
tiny_acres wrote: ↑12 Oct 2018, 13:24
Boxerbeetle wrote: ↑12 Oct 2018, 13:21 Definitely not a PPV fight. If I was Hearn, I’d consider putting it (or a similar fight) on regular Sky and then promoting the fvck out of it on SSN, just to damage the BT PPV.
Smart move hitting the competition where it hurts.
yeah - very sneaky ! Loads of people would watch Whyte v Chisora for free over Wilder vs Fury PPV.

Plus..., why does every big(ish) fight suddenly have to be PPV ?
There's still a fair bit of money in selling out the O2 (sure it would) and selling the fight overseas etc - enough for everyone to get paid, Shirley ?

I'm sick of what they pass off as PPV fights.
Back in the day we saw better fights on USA Tuesday night fights.
It's a shame because they limit their growth as a sport

brilo33 · Post by **brilo33** » 13 Oct 2018, 11:50

Hope it happenes good fight i go for a fit ortize bit the old boy aint got much left .I like whyte he could defo break him down and win

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