Jarrell Miller vs. Fres Oquendo - November 17, 2018?

Who wins?

Poll ended at 18 Nov 2018, 03:40

Miller - Decision
1
4%
Miller - K/TKO
25
93%
DRAW
0
No votes
Oquendo - K/TKO
1
4%
Oquendo - Decision
0
No votes
 
Total votes: 27

Ruthless-RKO
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Jarrell Miller vs. Fres Oquendo - November 17, 2018?

Post by Ruthless-RKO »

Jarrell Miller is less than two weeks removed from quickly knocking out a 41-year-old former contender.

Now the heavyweight’s handlers are working on matching Miller against a 45-year-old contender who hasn’t fought in four years. And this time, Miller will fight for one of the WBA’s three heavyweight titles.

Multiple sources have informed BS.com that negotiations are moving toward the finalization of a deal for Miller to face Fres Oquendo on November 17 at Boardwalk Hall in Atlantic City, New Jersey. If, as expected, the deal is completed, Miller and Oquendo will fight for the WBA world heavyweight title in the main event of DAZN card.

Eddie Hearn, one of Miller’s promoters, also has tried to arrange a bout between Miller and WBA interim champion Trevor Bryan (20-0, 14 KOs). Hearn has made more progress with Oquendo’s handlers than with Don King, Bryan’s promoter.

For Oquendo, meeting Miller finally would afford him the WBA title shot the Panama-based sanctioning organization legally owes him.

Chicago’s Oquendo (37-8, 24 KOs) was supposed to challenge Manuel Charr (31-4, 17 KOs) for the WBA world heavyweight title September 29 in Cologne, Germany. That fight was canceled on short notice because Charr tested positive for two anabolic steroids, drostanolone and trenbolone, and was stripped that championship.
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Re: Jarrell Miller vs. Fres Oquendo - November 17, 2018?

Post by DrDuke »

Miller will suffer from the Oquendo curse and will withdraw because of some doping scandal. Sure, he will try to say, that those PEDs were in chicken meat of the KFC, where he spends all his training camps, but that won't work and Oquendo will remain without an opponent once again. But if the fight will take place, Miller will win in an Adamek fight fashion.
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Re: Jarrell Miller vs. Fres Oquendo - November 17, 2018?

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It's the worst fight i can think of but at least it will end the Oquendo's soap opera.
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Re: Jarrell Miller vs. Fres Oquendo - November 17, 2018?

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dagilechia wrote: 20 Oct 2018, 04:05 It's the worst fight i can think of but at least it will end the Oquendo's soap opera.
This is the only positive thing.
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Re: Jarrell Miller vs. Fres Oquendo - November 17, 2018?

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we should all be appluading this tbh, lets end the fres ordeal :lol:
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Re: Jarrell Miller vs. Fres Oquendo - November 17, 2018?

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I see this ending in round 1.

Oquendo had always been Fat Fres to me, not Fast Fres. He has been training for the last 4 years no doubt. But will (hopefully) get flattened here.
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Re: Jarrell Miller vs. Fres Oquendo - November 17, 2018?

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jamamb wrote: 20 Oct 2018, 04:20 we should all be appluading this tbh, lets end the fres ordeal :lol:
Yes lets get it over.
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Re: Jarrell Miller vs. Fres Oquendo - November 17, 2018?

Post by Perseus »

I hope this will finally put an end to the Oquendo/WBA mess.

This fight could go the distance..............if the rumour about Miller negotiating pizza delivery to his corner after each round is true he will want to go the full 12 rounds.
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Re: Jarrell Miller vs. Fres Oquendo - November 17, 2018?

Post by Tony1244 »

I'd be :witzend: if this was a prime Fres, but of course it isn't unless there is something miraculous about Fres.

Miller by KO here. Both in their prime? Possibly a draw.
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Re: Jarrell Miller vs. Fres Oquendo - November 17, 2018?

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Ruthless-RKO wrote: 20 Oct 2018, 03:40 Chicago’s Oquendo (37-8, 24 KOs) was supposed to challenge Manuel Charr (31-4, 17 KOs) for the WBA world heavyweight title September 29 in Cologne, Germany. That fight was canceled on short notice because Charr tested positive for two anabolic steroids, drostanolone and trenbolone, and was stripped that championship.
As of today Charr is still the WBA (Regular) heavyweight champion. Check their website.
He hasn't been stripped......................yet.
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Re: Jarrell Miller vs. Fres Oquendo - November 17, 2018?

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SteveO wrote: 20 Oct 2018, 10:15
Ruthless-RKO wrote: 20 Oct 2018, 03:40 Chicago’s Oquendo (37-8, 24 KOs) was supposed to challenge Manuel Charr (31-4, 17 KOs) for the WBA world heavyweight title September 29 in Cologne, Germany. That fight was canceled on short notice because Charr tested positive for two anabolic steroids, drostanolone and trenbolone, and was stripped that championship.
As of today Charr is still the WBA (Regular) heavyweight champion. Check their website.
He hasn't been stripped......................yet.
That or WBA don't update their website.
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Re: Jarrell Miller vs. Fres Oquendo - November 17, 2018?

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There hasn't been an official announcement from the WBA stating that Charr has been stripped as far as I'm aware.
Their website states that his status is 'under review'.
I imagine we will know what's happening pretty soon.
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Re: Jarrell Miller vs. Fres Oquendo - November 17, 2018?

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SteveO wrote: 20 Oct 2018, 12:52 There hasn't been an official announcement from the WBA stating that Charr has been stripped as far as I'm aware.
Their website states that his status is 'under review'.
I imagine we will know what's happening pretty soon.
Did Charr ask for a 2nd sample?
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Re: Jarrell Miller vs. Fres Oquendo - November 17, 2018?

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I would pass out from laughter if Oquendo knocked Miller out.
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Re: Jarrell Miller vs. Fres Oquendo - November 17, 2018?

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chuck9788 wrote: 20 Oct 2018, 12:59 I would pass out from laughter if Oquendo knocked Miller out.
It would be the absolute worst thing for boxing. Could you imagine waiting another 4 and a half years for the rematch
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Re: Jarrell Miller vs. Fres Oquendo - November 17, 2018?

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Unfortunate.
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Re: Jarrell Miller vs. Fres Oquendo - November 17, 2018?

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Ruthless-RKO wrote: 20 Oct 2018, 12:57 Did Charr ask for a 2nd sample?
I assume so. It would make sense to wait for the results of that. Hence the delay.
It is understandable that the WBA don't want to be involved in any further legal problems given the Oquendo debacle.
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Re: Jarrell Miller vs. Fres Oquendo - November 17, 2018?

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#FREETHEWBAHEAVYWEIGHTBELT
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Re: Jarrell Miller vs. Fres Oquendo - November 17, 2018?

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chuck9788 wrote: 20 Oct 2018, 13:38 #FREETHEWBAHEAVYWEIGHTBELT
I think they are free. Everybody seems to have one :lol:
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Re: Jarrell Miller vs. Fres Oquendo - November 17, 2018?

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Conflicting reports:
Hearn said Bryan didn't want the fight. So who would that leave Miller with? Chisora? Jennings? Guillermo Jones? Chris Lovejoy?
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Re: Jarrell Miller vs. Fres Oquendo - November 17, 2018?

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From purely a mathematical perspective, if Jarrell Miller actually ends up fighting Fres Oquendo on the 17th November, then the average age of his last seven opponents (on the date he faced them) would equate to 38 years and 10 months old, which I feel is pretty bad compared to the youthfulness of these world-rated heavyweights:

• Deontay Wilder (33 years of age)
• Tyson Fury (30 years and two months)
• Anthony Joshua (29 years)
• Dillian Whyte (30 years and six months)
• Joseph Parker (26 years and nine months)
• Adam Kownacki (29 years and seven months)
• Hughie Fury (24 years and one month)
• Andy Ruiz Jr. (29 years and one month)

If Jarrell Miller keeps facing old men, then how on earth will he be able to adapt when he’s forced to share the ring with one of the world-rated hungry young athletic lions, especially considering the fact he’s become accustomed to overcoming shot veterans? :-?
Last edited by Enlightened-One on 23 Oct 2018, 09:04, edited 1 time in total.
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Re: Jarrell Miller vs. Fres Oquendo - November 17, 2018?

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Jarrell "the geriatric killer" Miller.

This "fight" makes zero sense. Total waste of time for Miller. I hope he does something more meaningful instead. Fight Chisora... He would be up for it if they pay enough. Helenius would probably take the fight for decent payday. Jennings or Ruiz could be up for it too. Loads of better names out there to climb some rankings.
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Re: Jarrell Miller vs. Fres Oquendo - November 17, 2018?

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Enlightened-One wrote: 23 Oct 2018, 08:02 From purely a mathematical perspective, if Jarrell Miller actually ends up fighting Fres Oquendo on the 17th November, then the average age of his last seven opponents (on the date he faced them) would equate to 38 years and 10 months old, which I feel is pretty bad compared to the youthfulness of these world-rated heavyweights:

• Deontay Wilder (33 years of age)
• Tyson Fury (33 years and two months)
• Anthony Joshua (29 years)
• Dillian Whyte (30 years and six months)
• Joseph Parker (26 years and nine months)
• Adam Kownacki (29 years and seven months)
• Hughie Fury (24 years and one month)
• Andy Ruiz Jr. (29 years and one month)

If Jarrell Miller keeps facing old men, then how on earth will he be able to adapt when he’s forced to share the ring with one of the world-rated hungry young athletic lions, especially considering the fact he’s become accustomed to overcoming shot veterans? :-?
Tyson Fury is 30 years and 2 months
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Re: Jarrell Miller vs. Fres Oquendo - November 17, 2018?

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tiny_acres wrote: 23 Oct 2018, 08:57
Enlightened-One wrote: 23 Oct 2018, 08:02 From purely a mathematical perspective, if Jarrell Miller actually ends up fighting Fres Oquendo on the 17th November, then the average age of his last seven opponents (on the date he faced them) would equate to 38 years and 10 months old, which I feel is pretty bad compared to the youthfulness of these world-rated heavyweights:

• Deontay Wilder (33 years of age)
• Tyson Fury (30 years and two months)
• Anthony Joshua (29 years)
• Dillian Whyte (30 years and six months)
• Joseph Parker (26 years and nine months)
• Adam Kownacki (29 years and seven months)
• Hughie Fury (24 years and one month)
• Andy Ruiz Jr. (29 years and one month)

If Jarrell Miller keeps facing old men, then how on earth will he be able to adapt when he’s forced to share the ring with one of the world-rated hungry young athletic lions, especially considering the fact he’s become accustomed to overcoming shot veterans? :-?
Tyson Fury is 30 years and 2 months
Yep, you're right. Post amended accordingly.
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Re: Jarrell Miller vs. Fres Oquendo - November 17, 2018?

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Enlightened-One wrote: 23 Oct 2018, 09:04
tiny_acres wrote: 23 Oct 2018, 08:57
Enlightened-One wrote: 23 Oct 2018, 08:02 From purely a mathematical perspective, if Jarrell Miller actually ends up fighting Fres Oquendo on the 17th November, then the average age of his last seven opponents (on the date he faced them) would equate to 38 years and 10 months old, which I feel is pretty bad compared to the youthfulness of these world-rated heavyweights:

• Deontay Wilder (33 years of age)
• Tyson Fury (30 years and two months)
• Anthony Joshua (29 years)
• Dillian Whyte (30 years and six months)
• Joseph Parker (26 years and nine months)
• Adam Kownacki (29 years and seven months)
• Hughie Fury (24 years and one month)
• Andy Ruiz Jr. (29 years and one month)

If Jarrell Miller keeps facing old men, then how on earth will he be able to adapt when he’s forced to share the ring with one of the world-rated hungry young athletic lions, especially considering the fact he’s become accustomed to overcoming shot veterans? :-?
Tyson Fury is 30 years and 2 months
Yep, you're right. Post amended accordingly.
As for Miller fighting Oquendo. I wish someone would hurry up and face him before social security kicks in for the guy.
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