Who really wins Joshua v wilder fight?

[Connor19996]

Who you do you think would actually win the fight?

Is it a 50/50 fight?

Wanna hear it opinions

[dagilechia]

Wilder is more explosive but Joshua is better all-round boxer. Wilder has advantage in dynamics but Joshua is physically stronger.

AJ proved that he has the ability to adjust to current situation in the ring. Some say that Wilder is more unpredictable but i think that actually AJ is more-dimensional fighter.

Both have more or less proved chin but in that aspect AJ seems slighty better imo also i think that Wilder is easier to hit - he is more elusive, AJ is rather stiff but he has better guard. Wilder is pretty open, when he turns on his windmill i can see AJ counter him and put on his bum.

Wilder is faster, moves faster but AJ moves smarter - footwork is AJs advantage.

AJ is technically better and more precise fighter. He throws better more creative combinations from more angles.

Wilder will have slight height and reach advantage but i doubt that it will play significant role.

Wilder has also better stamina - but will he pressure AJ enough to tire him? I doubt that. Anyway, stamina is Wilder's advantage.

Wilder has a punchers chances, i can't see him winning on points. He lost rounds to Szpilka or Washington. AJ can knock him out too but if the fight goes the distance (which is unlikely but possible) AJ will be awarded the decision.

So i think that AJ is not huge but clear favourite.

Wilder's strenght is his explosive right hand. Joshua has more ways to win this fight.

[oogiebe]

Wilder is more explosive but Joshua is better all-round boxer. Wilder has advantage in dynamics but Joshua is physically stronger.

AJ proved that he has the ability to adjust to current situation in the ring. Some say that Wilder is more unpredictable but i think that actually AJ is more-dimensional fighter.

Both have more or less proved chin but in that aspect AJ seems slighty better imo also i think that Wilder is easier to hit - he is more elusive, AJ is rather stiff but he has better guard. Wilder is pretty open, when he turns on his windmill i can see AJ counter him and put on his bum.

Wilder is faster, moves faster but AJ moves smarter - footwork is AJs advantage.

AJ is technically better and more precise fighter. He throws better more creative combinations from more angles.

Wilder will have slight height and reach advantage but i doubt that it will play significant role.

Wilder has a punchers chances, i can't see him winning on points. He lost rounds to Szpilka or Washington. AJ can knock him out too but if the fight goes the distance (which is unlikely but possible) AJ will be awarded the decision.

So i think that AJ is not huge but clear favourite.

Wilder's strenght is his explosive right hand. Joshua has more ways to win this fight.

Nice post. I agree with much of what you say here. I have one scenario in my head that has Wilder establishing his jab with AJ's lack of head movement. If that is the case, I can see Wilder taking him out mid rounds...else...AJ.

[Oiky]

I'd bet on Joshua , but if wilder got one of them big shots off it'd be all over for Joshua , like said above, wilder is more explosive will Joshua is the better boxer

Joshua's lack of lateral movement could be a bad thing in a wilder fight

[Boxing Writer]

Wilder is more explosive but Joshua is better all-round boxer. Wilder has advantage in dynamics but Joshua is physically stronger.

AJ proved that he has the ability to adjust to current situation in the ring. Some say that Wilder is more unpredictable but i think that actually AJ is more-dimensional fighter.

Both have more or less proved chin but in that aspect AJ seems slighty better imo also i think that Wilder is easier to hit - he is more elusive, AJ is rather stiff but he has better guard. Wilder is pretty open, when he turns on his windmill i can see AJ counter him and put on his bum.

Wilder is faster, moves faster but AJ moves smarter - footwork is AJs advantage.

AJ is technically better and more precise fighter. He throws better more creative combinations from more angles.

Wilder will have slight height and reach advantage but i doubt that it will play significant role.

Wilder has a punchers chances, i can't see him winning on points. He lost rounds to Szpilka or Washington. AJ can knock him out too but if the fight goes the distance (which is unlikely but possible) AJ will be awarded the decision.

So i think that AJ is not huge but clear favourite.

Wilder's strenght is his explosive right hand. Joshua has more ways to win this fight.

Great analysis! Which tactics, in your opinion, will be more effective for Joshua to win this fight - box him from the distance or try to put him under pressure from the first round? Because Wilder will fight like he always does.

[ironbeard]

Wilder has Fury to worry about. If he were to poleax the gypsy, Wilder’s confidence going into the AJ fight would make it very interesting.

AJ has to be favored though, especially over there.

[DrDuke]

We can probably never know that. The Gypsy King is coming for Wilder and Wilder can become irrelevant after that. Everyone will talk about the British derby of Fury and Joshua. Of course, The Gypsy King will take what's his. And actually that can revive the interest for Wilder-Joshua, it will sound like a good eliminator for Fury rematch.

[dagilechia]

Wilder is more explosive but Joshua is better all-round boxer. Wilder has advantage in dynamics but Joshua is physically stronger.

AJ proved that he has the ability to adjust to current situation in the ring. Some say that Wilder is more unpredictable but i think that actually AJ is more-dimensional fighter.

Both have more or less proved chin but in that aspect AJ seems slighty better imo also i think that Wilder is easier to hit - he is more elusive, AJ is rather stiff but he has better guard. Wilder is pretty open, when he turns on his windmill i can see AJ counter him and put on his bum.

Wilder is faster, moves faster but AJ moves smarter - footwork is AJs advantage.

AJ is technically better and more precise fighter. He throws better more creative combinations from more angles.

Wilder will have slight height and reach advantage but i doubt that it will play significant role.

Wilder has a punchers chances, i can't see him winning on points. He lost rounds to Szpilka or Washington. AJ can knock him out too but if the fight goes the distance (which is unlikely but possible) AJ will be awarded the decision.

So i think that AJ is not huge but clear favourite.

Wilder's strenght is his explosive right hand. Joshua has more ways to win this fight.

Great analysis! Which tactics, in your opinion, will be more effective for Joshua to win this fight - box him from the distance or try to put him under pressure from the first round? Because Wilder will fight like he always does.

Well, this a very hard question. But in my opinion, AJ should put Wilder under pressure, not crazy pressure but should constantly go forward. To me it seems that Wilder doesn't like pressure, especially pressure from big and significantly stronger fighter. Of course AJ must be cautious when moving forward because of this freaking Wilder's right hand.

Wilder has longer reach, it's not a big difference and i don't think it matters at all, but i think that pressure is better option for AJ than boxing from the outside because the longer it lasts the better for Wilder - i forgot to add that stamina is one of Wilder's main advantage. AJ might win most of rounds and evetually get caught late.

If AJ puts him under pressure, then due to difference in physical strenght even punches that will land on Wilder's skinny hands will do some job and will have some impact.

To me it seems that AJ is easier to hit when you get close to him (aka Povetkin) but not too easy to get caught from the distance (he is different, better fighter after Klitschko fight, more experienced, smarter) and i doubt that Wilder will try to get close too often, he will rather wait for a counter or moment of deconcentration.

Constantly moving forward with high guard and throwing mostly straight punches - that is what i believe AJ should do. He must "break" Wilder systematically moving and throwing fair amount of punches (not too much though because gassing out is something that AJ needs to avoid at all cost)

Considering AJs atrributes i believe that this is the best tactic.

Btw i dont think that Miller is a great fighter but with his attributes i give him a lot of chances vs Wilder - if he can stand Wilder's power (which we still don't know if he can but as far as i know he was never down in any fighting formula) he can literally "break" him moving forward like a tank with high guard and throwing. In Miller's case, getting close and landing to the body is the key, i expect AJ to throw rather to the head.

[Nightmare Roy]

AJ, he's got over 40 lbs wright advantage, is a better boxer, has fought much better opponents etc etc.

[baron_otto]

For me AJ should win - he's the bigger man and a better boxer. However I do have a nagging doubt that the outcome isn't as obvious as it seems as Wilder has a big equaliser in his right hand. I guess its a question of whether AJ can stop Wilder landing the clean big shot.

[bigman1968]

We’ll never know, becouse we’ll not see prime AJ vs prime DW-((( Hearns just will not allow it...
He’ll wait for two more years, waiting DW declining ( he is 33 now) and getting less explosive....and maybe it will happen.

Meanwhile we’ll see Joshua-White 2/3 and such. As long as fans buy out stadiums and milion ppv - why risk it?-(((

[dagilechia]

I hope that AJ himself will insist on Hearn to make this fight

[Yuzo]

Constantly moving forward with high guard and throwing mostly straight punches - that is what i believe AJ should do. He must "break" Wilder systematically moving and throwing fair amount of punches (not too much though because gassing out is something that AJ needs to avoid at all cost)

marching in with your hands up means he gets to keep his jab extended to preform its primary function. which is to constantly measure you for a right hand.



he throws his right hand two ways.

when your hips are squared up he throws a straight right hand in between your guard.



thats how he knocked out stiverne.

when your hips are three quartered he throws a looping right hand around your guard.



thats how he knocked out liakhovich.

when your hips are squared up, you are protecting your head from round punches, but you are exposing your face to straight right hands in between your guard. when your hips are three quartered, you are taking away the path for a straight right hand, but your head becomes exposed to looping right hands behind your ear.

Wilder is pretty open, when he turns on his windmill i can see AJ counter him and put on his bum.

he turns on his windmill when you are hurt. but, mostly, he only throws two punches. a jab and a right hand. so those are the punches joshua can try to counter.

he throws his jab just to measure you and he throws his right hand very conservatively. but, there is a moment, in between his jab and his right hand, when he is bringing his jab back and starting to turn into his right hand, when he can be hit.

he throws a bow and arrow jab and right hand.



and can be countered then by a check hook.

[Ilya Muromets]

Some good posts above.

[Cas]

I'd have to favor Joshua at this stage. He is the more pure boxer and smarter than Wilder.

The fight is intriguing as Joshua has looked vulnerable in the past. I do believe Wilder has the power to legitimately knock Joshua spark out which makes it interesting.

I think Joshua at this stage is seasoned and smart enough to realize whats at stake here, and avoid any heavy shots. Wilder is not somebody you want to trade with as he will most likely get the better of you. Joshua has the skills and strategy to deal with Wilder.

Joshua by late stoppage I think in a cagey affair to begin with.

[Enlightened-One]

Who you do you think would actually win the fight?

Based on Eddie Hearn’s assertions about Showtime being the next network to follow HBO by leaving boxing within the next twelve months, coupled with him being adamant that any bout involving AJ must be televised solely by DAZN, then this leads me to believe the likelihood of the Wilder-Joshua bout being extremely remote during 2019 (even though ‘The Bronze Bomber’ doesn’t actually have an exclusive contract with Stephen Espinoza’s network).

I hope I’m wrong, but I feel that network rivalry issues may scupper this bout from being made, at least until the demand for it reaches stratospheric levels (i.e. generating Mayweather-Pacquiao type mega-money).

Showtime have been providing streaming services three years prior to DAZN, so they directly compete with each other.

[fightfan95]

I would have Joshua as favourite. I agree with most people on here that Wilder is more explosive but Joshua is a better all-round fighter. If Joshua could improve his defence and movement he would be very hard to beat.

Wilder knows he just needs to land one of those big shots - both fighters are open all night.

They're both perfect for Fury imo

[Perseus]

Wilder is more explosive but Joshua is better all-round boxer. Wilder has advantage in dynamics but Joshua is physically stronger.

AJ proved that he has the ability to adjust to current situation in the ring. Some say that Wilder is more unpredictable but i think that actually AJ is more-dimensional fighter.

Both have more or less proved chin but in that aspect AJ seems slighty better imo also i think that Wilder is easier to hit - he is more elusive, AJ is rather stiff but he has better guard. Wilder is pretty open, when he turns on his windmill i can see AJ counter him and put on his bum.

Wilder is faster, moves faster but AJ moves smarter - footwork is AJs advantage.

AJ is technically better and more precise fighter. He throws better more creative combinations from more angles.

Wilder will have slight height and reach advantage but i doubt that it will play significant role.

Wilder has also better stamina - but will he pressure AJ enough to tire him? I doubt that. Anyway, stamina is Wilder's advantage.

Wilder has a punchers chances, i can't see him winning on points. He lost rounds to Szpilka or Washington. AJ can knock him out too but if the fight goes the distance (which is unlikely but possible) AJ will be awarded the decision.

So i think that AJ is not huge but clear favourite.

Wilder's strenght is his explosive right hand. Joshua has more ways to win this fight.

Nice analysis.
Basically: Wilder is the superior athlete, AJ is the superior boxer.

Who really wins when they meet?
The fans, it will be awesome while it lasts.

[jmma18]

Joshua would win, he's a better boxer

[jamamb]

ya good post, and i especially agree on aj having more dimensions

the whole 'wilders unorthdoxy and unpredicatbility as a big strength' thing is one of my pet peeves. hes almost always the same pawing jab and then right hand over and over from outside unless hes got a guy hurt, and then its the windmill. but the windmill is often inaccurate and allows guys to go in between his shots and surivive longer. with wilders raw talents and length, its precisely his unorthdoxy (aka sloppyness) that has allowed far less gifted guys to have moments and go rounds

aj to me has a more diverse punch selection , can box or stalk, and is better inside with uppercuts (wlad + whyte knockouts + staggered brezeale with it) and in general with combos.

wilder has better stamina and i think a bit faster hands. they both hit hard enough to ktfo each other but i think ajs got better chances of doing it first.

[jamamb]

and both absolutely smash fury

[Yuzo]

i especially agree on aj having more dimensions

who do you think has better timing?

[fanman]

nice vids yuzo.
somehow i think joshua will just walk through him. solid guard, speed, timing.
it will be exciting anyway when it happens.

[Loki]

AJ takes him to school then puts him to sleep. 100% certain.

[brilo33]

wilder sparks aj