Rigondeaux vs Inoue (122) 2019. Who wins ?

[ValMar]

What do you think about this potential fight ? Who wins ? How ?
I expect Inoue winning WBSS tournament at bantam and move up after that.
Is Rigo still among the best ? Nobody knows.

[littlepug]

What do you think about this potential fight ? Who wins ? How ?
I expect Inoue winning WBSS tournament at bantam and move up after that.
Is Rigo still among the best ? Nobody knows.

why do you expect Inoue to move up ?

[ValMar]

What do you think about this potential fight ? Who wins ? How ?
I expect Inoue winning WBSS tournament at bantam and move up after that.
Is Rigo still among the best ? Nobody knows.

why do you expect Inoue to move up ?

....In order to face Rigo..............

[DrDuke]

Rigo isn't getting better with aging and being out of competition. Inoue is a monster in prime, he'll win by KO.

[littlepug]

What do you think about this potential fight ? Who wins ? How ?
I expect Inoue winning WBSS tournament at bantam and move up after that.
Is Rigo still among the best ? Nobody knows.

why do you expect Inoue to move up ?

....In order to face Rigo..............

Silly move if his body aint ready, would rather see him dominate at bantam, about time we saw a boxer lockdown a division again.

[Deleted_Scenes]

Rigo isn't getting better with aging and being out of competition. Inoue is a monster in prime, he'll win by KO.

This.

His last (only?) win of note was 5 1/2 years ago now.

[Ruthless-RKO]

Inoue already skipped a weight. Would have been 4 weight champion by now.

[ezhmael]

I'm going with Rigo. Let's see how he'll take the WBSS competitors before we can judge if he can take El Chacal

[jamamb]

too bad for inoue he didnt get roman before wangek did, that wouldve been a huge win for him

id think inoue would probably win

[jamamb]

What do you think about this potential fight ? Who wins ? How ?
I expect Inoue winning WBSS tournament at bantam and move up after that.
Is Rigo still among the best ? Nobody knows.

why do you expect Inoue to move up ?

....In order to face Rigo..............

rigos not really a big enough name or at this point win to force a guy to move up. almost 40, no wins in 2.5 years, no belt, not a draw, no longer unbeaten...

what makes you think inoue would move up just to fight him?

[jamamb]

btw people, check out rigos record , beaten absolutely f@ck all in the last 5 years. at his age , and inactivity, and last showing, momentum isnt on his side

[Luis Fernando12]

Inoue is overrated! Has beaten a bunch of low level boxers, and now people think he can KO the elites when he hasn't proven himself at that level.

The biggest problem for Guillermo Rigondeaux is his age. However, I'd expect a prime Rigondeaux to stop Inoue. Whereas if Rigondeaux is still, even as good as he was against Lomachenko, I'd expect him to beat Inoue via decision.

Let's not forget that Lomachenko is a very special boxer with very special skills. Nobody has ever done to Rigondeaux, what Lomachenko did in terms of landing as many punches (particularly the jab) whilst also neutralizing his offense.

The Rigondeaux that lost to Lomachenko, would in my opinion, beat pretty much every other guy below 130 pounds. No other boxer has, or even comes close to Lomachenko's offensive skills in terms of footwork, feints and punch variation / selection. Inoue doesn't even come close to Lomachenko.

If Rigondeaux has significantly declined since his loss to Lomachenko, then maybe Inoue wins. However, if it's the same Rigondeaux of last year, I expect him to beat Inoue via decision, after experiencing some shaky moments.

Inoue just isn't that good! Some good matchmaking has made him look good. Especially his power. This happens to many boxers who look to have monstrous punching power against low level opponents but once they step up, and sometimes it only takes a slight step up, their power and their overall boxing abilities get utterly exposed.

[jamamb]

inoues beaten multiple guys who would be among rigos top wins. he has a much better recent resume too and destroyed good fighters whod never been stopped. hes not only got power, but excellent speed, punch variety, and combos to body and head. hes a very sharp puncher and not a sloppy one, or a guy who only picks single shots

a lot of ppl dont seem to realise how shallow rigos wins are, and hes beaten pretty much crap in the last 5 years. in fact its going on 6 years since the donaire fight, which is b y far his biggest win.

2.5 years without a win (that was over travy dickens lol), almost 40, hasnt been very active, etc....ya, momentums not with rigo against this type of much younger, active talent. and lets remember hes a guy who while still rate as a p4p elite got floored twice by amagasa. now hed been around 5 years older and vs a much better japanese

[squiggy]

Inoue is overrated! Has beaten a bunch of low level boxers, and now people think he can KO the elites when he hasn't proven himself at that level.

The biggest problem for Guillermo Rigondeaux is his age. However, I'd expect a prime Rigondeaux to stop Inoue. Whereas if Rigondeaux is still, even as good as he was against Lomachenko, I'd expect him to beat Inoue via decision.

Let's not forget that Lomachenko is a very special boxer with very special skills. Nobody has ever done to Rigondeaux, what Lomachenko did in terms of landing as many punches (particularly the jab) whilst also neutralizing his offense.

The Rigondeaux that lost to Lomachenko, would in my opinion, beat pretty much every other guy below 130 pounds. No other boxer has, or even comes close to Lomachenko's offensive skills in terms of footwork, feints and punch variation / selection. Inoue doesn't even come close to Lomachenko.

If Rigondeaux has significantly declined since his loss to Lomachenko, then maybe Inoue wins. However, if it's the same Rigondeaux of last year, I expect him to beat Inoue via decision, after experiencing some shaky moments.

Inoue just isn't that good! Some good matchmaking has made him look good. Especially his power. This happens to many boxers who look to have monstrous punching power against low level opponents but once they step up, and sometimes it only takes a slight step up, their power and their overall boxing abilities get utterly exposed.

Everybody understands that Loma is special, but what exactly impresses you about what Rigo accomplished against him? Was it the ten jabs he landed, or the five power punches?

You don't know that Inoue "just isn't that good" because he hasn't faced P4P elites. We don't know either way. I think he's way too good for 2019 Rigo.

[Luis Fernando12]

Inoue is overrated! Has beaten a bunch of low level boxers, and now people think he can KO the elites when he hasn't proven himself at that level.

The biggest problem for Guillermo Rigondeaux is his age. However, I'd expect a prime Rigondeaux to stop Inoue. Whereas if Rigondeaux is still, even as good as he was against Lomachenko, I'd expect him to beat Inoue via decision.

Let's not forget that Lomachenko is a very special boxer with very special skills. Nobody has ever done to Rigondeaux, what Lomachenko did in terms of landing as many punches (particularly the jab) whilst also neutralizing his offense.

The Rigondeaux that lost to Lomachenko, would in my opinion, beat pretty much every other guy below 130 pounds. No other boxer has, or even comes close to Lomachenko's offensive skills in terms of footwork, feints and punch variation / selection. Inoue doesn't even come close to Lomachenko.

If Rigondeaux has significantly declined since his loss to Lomachenko, then maybe Inoue wins. However, if it's the same Rigondeaux of last year, I expect him to beat Inoue via decision, after experiencing some shaky moments.

Inoue just isn't that good! Some good matchmaking has made him look good. Especially his power. This happens to many boxers who look to have monstrous punching power against low level opponents but once they step up, and sometimes it only takes a slight step up, their power and their overall boxing abilities get utterly exposed.

Everybody understands that Loma is special, but what exactly impresses you about what Rigo accomplished against him? Was it the ten jabs he landed, or the five power punches?

You don't know that Inoue "just isn't that good" because he hasn't faced P4P elites. We don't know either way. I think he's way too good for 2019 Rigo.

Rigondeaux's inability and incompetence against Lomachenko, was down to Lomachenko's brilliance / class, not down to him being a bad boxer (relative to everyone else below 130 pounds).

Based on my eye test, Inoue isn't that good. He makes a lot of fundamental flaws / errors and is FAR, and I mean FAR inferior and FAR more flawed than Nonito Donaire (a guy Rigondeaux practically shutout).

I guess you could be right, that the current Rigo is totally shot and isn't as good as he was before. But Rigondeaux doesn't even have to be at his ABSOLUTE best to beat Inoue. The Rigondeaux from the Lomachenko fight alone, is barely even going to get touched by Inoue. Keep in mind, the astronomical difference in offensive skills, between Inoue and Lomachenko. Nobody ever penetrated Rigondeaux's defense as effectively, and as frequently as Lomachenko did. And nobody else below 130 pounds could in my opinion. Not even Inoue. Simply because, he doesn't have the offensive skills in terms of feinting, punch accuracy, punching variation, punch selection and timing that Lomachenko possesses. Lomachenko is LEAGUES, and I mean LEAGUES above Inoue in offensive skills.

[ValMar]

Inoue is overrated! Has beaten a bunch of low level boxers, and now people think he can KO the elites when he hasn't proven himself at that level.

The biggest problem for Guillermo Rigondeaux is his age. However, I'd expect a prime Rigondeaux to stop Inoue. Whereas if Rigondeaux is still, even as good as he was against Lomachenko, I'd expect him to beat Inoue via decision.

Let's not forget that Lomachenko is a very special boxer with very special skills. Nobody has ever done to Rigondeaux, what Lomachenko did in terms of landing as many punches (particularly the jab) whilst also neutralizing his offense.

The Rigondeaux that lost to Lomachenko, would in my opinion, beat pretty much every other guy below 130 pounds. No other boxer has, or even comes close to Lomachenko's offensive skills in terms of footwork, feints and punch variation / selection. Inoue doesn't even come close to Lomachenko.

If Rigondeaux has significantly declined since his loss to Lomachenko, then maybe Inoue wins. However, if it's the same Rigondeaux of last year, I expect him to beat Inoue via decision, after experiencing some shaky moments.

Inoue just isn't that good! Some good matchmaking has made him look good. Especially his power. This happens to many boxers who look to have monstrous punching power against low level opponents but once they step up, and sometimes it only takes a slight step up, their power and their overall boxing abilities get utterly exposed.

Everybody understands that Loma is special, but what exactly impresses you about what Rigo accomplished against him? Was it the ten jabs he landed, or the five power punches?

You don't know that Inoue "just isn't that good" because he hasn't faced P4P elites. We don't know either way. I think he's way too good for 2019 Rigo.

Rigondeaux's inability and incompetence against Lomachenko, was down to Lomachenko's brilliance / class, not down to him being a bad boxer (relative to everyone else below 130 pounds).

Based on my eye test, Inoue isn't that good. He makes a lot of fundamental flaws / errors and is FAR, and I mean FAR inferior and FAR more flawed than Nonito Donaire (a guy Rigondeaux practically shutout).

I guess you could be right, that the current Rigo is totally shot and isn't as good as he was before. But Rigondeaux doesn't even have to be at his ABSOLUTE best to beat Inoue. The Rigondeaux from the Lomachenko fight alone, is barely even going to get touched by Inoue. Keep in mind, the astronomical difference in offensive skills, between Inoue and Lomachenko. Nobody ever penetrated Rigondeaux's defense as effectively, and as frequently as Lomachenko did. And nobody else below 130 pounds could in my opinion. Not even Inoue. Simply because, he doesn't have the offensive skills in terms of feinting, punch accuracy, punching variation, punch selection and timing that Lomachenko possesses. Lomachenko is LEAGUES, and I mean LEAGUES above Inoue in offensive skills.

Interesting, but it seems that I agree with you, at least 90 %....................

[jamamb]

okay, but on the other hand:

-rigo is almost 40 now, which is ancient for the lower weights
-hes only won a single fight in the last 2.5 years (and that was vs crap)
-the donaire win that got him much of his credibility was 6 years ago
-he was dropped 2x by amagasa, down by donaire, hurt 2x by marroquin, only barely got past cordoba, hardly unhittable
-he did f@ck all vs loma and quit. rigo is hardly the only fighter to maybe take an early round off loma.

so basically, rigo has shown some realy good boxing skill years ago indeed, but momentum is not with him at all and hes very old for the lower weights already. hes also not nearly as untouchable or fantastic as some make out. hes had issues with several opponents and some much much worse then inoue

basically, in 2019, i think inoue is too fresh and has the abilities to beat rigo handily

[ValMar]

Jamamb, Loma is the super-champion, for me he (at 126/130) is something like Bolt (100/200).
At 135 ? It might be, something like Bolt at 400.

Rigo is a little bit chinny, and he passed his prime evidently, but he is still very, very dangerous, and Inoue has never faced any fighter like Loma............