WBA Welterweight title mess.

stujones · Post by **stujones** » 09 May 2006, 18:03

Not on about the Hatton vs Collazo fight, but the aftermath.

We have Oktay Urkal who has been a long waiting mandatory.

Now we have TWO fights currently scheduled as eliminators.

Joel Julio vs Carlos Quintana (which I've mentioned before)

and Paul Williams vs Walter Mattthyse on the excellent 27th of May HBO card (featuring Jhonny Gonzales vs Fernando Montiel).

BubiScholz · Post by **BubiScholz** » 10 May 2006, 02:22

......To date, the WBA has withheld sanctioning of the fight because Collazo's mandatory defense against #1 ranked contender Oktay Urkal is due. However, moments ago an agreement was reached between Sauerland Event general manager Chris Meyer representing Urkal and Fight Academy's Richard Poxon representing Hatton. "The winner must face Oktay Urkal within 120 days of May 13," Meyer told Fightnews.com. "Of course, this must be approved by the WBA." With the cooperation of Urkal, it is expected that the WBA will now approve Saturday's Collazo-Hatton fight.
Tuesday, May 9 2006

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The Hitman vs Ali aus Kreuzberg !!!!!!!!!

Bring on that fight!!!!!!!!!!!

pasty_spud · Post by **pasty_spud** » 10 May 2006, 02:40

and where is the fight with urkal gonig to take place??? cos he can't fight in the states??

jeej · Post by **jeej** » 10 May 2006, 03:34

What are the odds of Hatton giving up the belt to fight Gatti instead?

Autobarn · Post by **Autobarn** » 10 May 2006, 03:45

I'm pretty certain Hatton will give up the title to fight Margarito or Baldomir

jeej · Post by **jeej** » 10 May 2006, 03:52

The guys behind Hatton's "American Adventure" seem to be pretty caught up in the idea of Gatti then PBF. Guess we'll see.

numpty · Post by **numpty** » 10 May 2006, 04:46

I cant honestly see him fighting Urkal if he wins!

Makes the whole point of becoming 'WBA champ' a bit of a mockery!

BubiScholz · Post by **BubiScholz** » 10 May 2006, 04:59

Yasasin, Oktay!

I see Oktay giving the Hitman a tough fight, he has a great heart and a good chin. Anyway I see a late TKO by Hatton but it would be a great European matchup, maybe at the Waldbühne in Berlin (Open Air Arena) with 20 - 30,000 spectators. There would also be some money for the Hitman and more and more fans in Europe´s biggest boxing market.......

Come over Ricky!!! After the MEN experience I would love to see him again.

Smit · Post by **Smit** » 10 May 2006, 05:01

I think he might fight Urkal for an 'easy' fight (wouldn't be easy but he might see it that way). If Floyd fights DLH then he wont be available til sometime in 2007. Gatti wont be available til sometime next year either so he's going to have to fight someone before then.

Autobarn · Post by **Autobarn** » 10 May 2006, 05:17

jeej wrote:The guys behind Hatton's "American Adventure" seem to be pretty caught up in the idea of Gatti then PBF. Guess we'll see.

maybe. but FA don't seem the most organized. Hatton-Collazo and Woods-Delisle 2 were almost not going to be santioned as world title fights. before Collazo was chosen, there was that endless rigmarole where it came to the point that no one gave a shit who the opponent was.

Gatti won't want to fight another elite fighter. Mayweather obliterated him and he has an opening due to Baldomir. I think Baldomir beats him anyway. Gatti never wanted anything to do with Tszyu either.

Mayweather isn't going to be the easiest fighter to negotiate with (neither is hatton, it would seem), and maybe hatton needs a couple of fights beforehand. I say Margarito as he was overlooked during the big welter showdowns (Mosley, Forrest, Mayorga, Spinks, Judah) and must be screaming for a big fight. Also, I'm sure HB would approve of him as it'd be an action fight

johnswan1 · Post by **johnswan1** » 10 May 2006, 05:30

Urkal will not be a part of the HBO three fight deal so why would Hatton be bothered fighting him.

Max Molyneux · Post by **Max Molyneux** » 10 May 2006, 05:35

How is Urkal the Mandatory when he's fought no eliminators?

MightyWarrior · Post by **MightyWarrior** » 10 May 2006, 05:44

No way will Hatton take on Urkal if he wins the WBA strap - too boring a fight, just like the MBaye fight for example.
The face first Gatti is much more likely option - assuming he actualy wins the Collazo fight that is.

And none of them will fancy Joel Julio at the moment, as no one is sure just how good he actualy is.

And I seriously doubt they'll take on the very dangerous Margarito - too big & too good.

boxingchat · Post by **boxingchat** » 10 May 2006, 06:31

Max Molyneux wrote:How is Urkal the Mandatory when he's fought no eliminators?

Has Hatton ever fought at 147?

hitman_hatton1 · Post by **hitman_hatton1** » 10 May 2006, 06:45

MightyWarrior wrote:And none of them will fancy Joel Julio at the moment, as no one is sure just how good he actualy is.

quintana will beat julio, mark my words.

remember seeing quintana on ch5 a few months back and i was very impressed with him.

hitman_hatton1 · Post by **hitman_hatton1** » 10 May 2006, 06:48

boxingchat wrote:
Max Molyneux wrote:How is Urkal the Mandatory when he's fought no eliminators?

Has Hatton ever fought at 147?

urkal won the european title and has good backing over in germany. plus he fought for the wba title 3 times before.

MightyWarrior · Post by **MightyWarrior** » 10 May 2006, 07:02

hitman_hatton1 wrote:
MightyWarrior wrote:And none of them will fancy Joel Julio at the moment, as no one is sure just how good he actualy is.
quintana will beat julio, mark my words.

remember seeing quintana on ch5 a few months back and i was very impressed with him.

Yeah that looks a terrific 50/50 cross roads fight. Two unbeaten punchers - I see Quintana flattened the boxer who KO'd Collazo too, so has to be a serious threat to the much hyped Colombian banger.
HBO televise....when's that PPV boxing channel up & running over here? What are they waiting for, Doomsday??

stujones · Post by **stujones** » 10 May 2006, 07:06

The Paul Williams vs Walter Matthyse bout also looks like a 50:50 one.. Think HBO are also covering it... Great card that one, if your a fan of the lower weights.

Max Molyneux · Post by **Max Molyneux** » 10 May 2006, 17:03

boxingchat wrote:
Max Molyneux wrote:How is Urkal the Mandatory when he's fought no eliminators?

Has Hatton ever fought at 147?

When he was fighting his first 10 fights against journymen waming up yeah.

My question was how Urkal was mandatory though.

Neri · Post by **Neri** » 11 May 2006, 01:03

I really have no interest in seeing Hatton-Urkal.

I've been very impressed with Julio, so if hitman is right this Quintana must really be something.