MMA

Onetimeonly · Post by **Onetimeonly** » 29 Oct 2018, 08:31

JCS wrote: ↑29 Oct 2018, 01:12 Seems like OneFC is quickly becoming an org where fighters take their careers to die. Their location and strange divisional structure doesn't help.. They have to be bleeding money...

I read they're 7 or 8 times more popular than the UFC in Asia. They have American TV coming.

Onetimeonly · Post by **Onetimeonly** » 29 Oct 2018, 08:32

jujigatame wrote: ↑28 Oct 2018, 23:01
Onetimeonly wrote: ↑28 Oct 2018, 21:13 I love it, been over that guy for a long time and he'll make a lot more money there. Win/win.
It's not a win at all if you give half a poo about the legitimacy of the sport and the best fights being made.

That's far from true.

jujigatame · Post by **jujigatame** » 29 Oct 2018, 09:35

Onetimeonly wrote: ↑29 Oct 2018, 08:32
jujigatame wrote: ↑28 Oct 2018, 23:01
Onetimeonly wrote: ↑28 Oct 2018, 21:13 I love it, been over that guy for a long time and he'll make a lot more money there. Win/win.
It's not a win at all if you give half a poo about the legitimacy of the sport and the best fights being made.
That's far from true.

It's 100% true. An all-time great of the sport finally loses his title to a razor-thin split decision, and instead of giving him an immediate rematch, you release him? It's a disgrace and a tremendous loss for any real MMA fan.

Oiky · Post by **Oiky** » 29 Oct 2018, 10:23

Ufc have pulled a dogs stroke there with dj

ironbeard · Post by **ironbeard** » 29 Oct 2018, 11:20

jujigatame wrote: ↑29 Oct 2018, 09:35
Onetimeonly wrote: ↑29 Oct 2018, 08:32
jujigatame wrote: ↑28 Oct 2018, 23:01

It's not a win at all if you give half a poo about the legitimacy of the sport and the best fights being made.
That's far from true.
It's 100% true. An all-time great of the sport finally loses his title to a razor-thin split decision, and instead of giving him an immediate rematch, you release him? It's a disgrace and a tremendous loss for any real MMA fan.

They were (obviously) looking for any excuse to punish him for speaking his mind.

punchoutsb · Post by **punchoutsb** » 29 Oct 2018, 12:04

In my opinion none of this would have happened if DJ had fought TJ. I’m as far away from the “he ducked him”camp as you can be, but between that and his unjustified money gripes he definitely didn’t do himself any favors in the front office.

JCS · Post by **JCS** » 29 Oct 2018, 12:12

Onetimeonly wrote: ↑29 Oct 2018, 08:31
JCS wrote: ↑29 Oct 2018, 01:12 Seems like OneFC is quickly becoming an org where fighters take their careers to die. Their location and strange divisional structure doesn't help.. They have to be bleeding money...
I read they're 7 or 8 times more popular than the UFC in Asia. They have American TV coming.

Not sure about that statistic.. but even if true, I'm sure time zones and geography have huge influences on that..

And I'm sure Badminton is more popular in Asia than ice hockey... amongst other things...

Onetimeonly · Post by **Onetimeonly** » 29 Oct 2018, 17:17

JCS wrote: ↑29 Oct 2018, 12:12
Onetimeonly wrote: ↑29 Oct 2018, 08:31
JCS wrote: ↑29 Oct 2018, 01:12 Seems like OneFC is quickly becoming an org where fighters take their careers to die. Their location and strange divisional structure doesn't help.. They have to be bleeding money...
I read they're 7 or 8 times more popular than the UFC in Asia. They have American TV coming.
Not sure about that statistic.. but even if true, I'm sure time zones and geography have huge influences on that..

And I'm sure Badminton is more popular in Asia than ice hockey... amongst other things...

Of course, getting up at 5 am to stream fighters they've never heard of isnt high on Americans list. I think they have several billion followers in social media outlets. They have plenty of money. Johnson will do better there

Onetimeonly · Post by **Onetimeonly** » 29 Oct 2018, 17:19

jujigatame wrote: ↑29 Oct 2018, 09:35
Onetimeonly wrote: ↑29 Oct 2018, 08:32
jujigatame wrote: ↑28 Oct 2018, 23:01

It's not a win at all if you give half a poo about the legitimacy of the sport and the best fights being made.
That's far from true.
It's 100% true. An all-time great of the sport finally loses his title to a razor-thin split decision, and instead of giving him an immediate rematch, you release him? It's a disgrace and a tremendous loss for any real MMA fan.

It's a win for Johnson because he'll make more money. It's a win for me because I don't care about any fight he'd have past the tj fight he won't take.

jujigatame · Post by **jujigatame** » 29 Oct 2018, 20:47

I can't imagine not caring to watch one of the GOAT MMA fighters fight a trilogy bout after losing his first fight in 7 years. But to each his own I suppose.

Onetimeonly · Post by **Onetimeonly** » 30 Oct 2018, 12:52

That fight sucked, the only drama to me was if he would lose. Glad he did, good riddance. Though he has earned the larger paydays.

jujigatame · Post by **jujigatame** » 30 Oct 2018, 19:26

I certainly don't agree that the fight sucked., and as an MMA fan it's pretty mind-boggling to me that anyone can say "good riddance" to an all-time great who is still a top 10 P4P fighter.

Impractical Poster · Post by **Impractical Poster** » 30 Oct 2018, 20:27

jujigatame wrote: ↑28 Oct 2018, 23:01
Onetimeonly wrote: ↑28 Oct 2018, 21:13 I love it, been over that guy for a long time and he'll make a lot more money there. Win/win.
It's not a win at all if you give half a poo about the legitimacy of the sport and the best fights being made.

In a way surprising that they did a trade, and for Askrin given the history between him and Dana. But also not surprising in letting DJ go. Despite his dominance, he never brought the numbers. For this reason, he was expendable. I'm sure he wasn't receiving the pay to match his talent anyhow. He will probably get treated a lot better over at 1.

And as good as he was, his fights lacked drama and excitement, for the most part.... for me anyhow.

Tinnie · Post by **Tinnie** » 31 Oct 2018, 02:15

Impractical Poster wrote: ↑30 Oct 2018, 20:27
In a way surprising that they did a trade, and for Askrin given the history between him and Dana. But also not surprising in letting DJ go. Despite his dominance, he never brought the numbers. For this reason, he was expendable. I'm sure he wasn't receiving the pay to match his talent anyhow. He will probably get treated a lot better over at 1.

And as good as he was, his fights lacked drama and excitement, for the most part.... for me anyhow.

Dana is happy to use anyone in the short term, if it means he creates more money for the company. Remember his feud with Tito?.... well Dana won in the end there.... milked every dollar of publicity out of him before letting him go.....

I think Mighty Mouse was lacking a true rival..... of all the champions i think he is the one that fights closest to his natural weight...... he's not one of these animals rehydrating 20 pounds over night...... I dont blame him if he didnt want to step up to Dillashaw........ his departure does however raise the question if the ufc are going to persist with the 125 division in the long run.....

Personally i think there should be a balance...... but with the current environment, its seems like more and more fighters are clammering to be loader and more crass than everyone around them, trying to get noticed..... most of them come off as ignorant idiots...... DJ should be UFC royalty,.....

jujigatame · Post by **jujigatame** » 31 Oct 2018, 19:50

It seems like for last few years the UFC has gotten less and less concerned with keeping all the top fighters in each division, and the product is suffering for it. DJ is just the latest example. Mousasi, Bader, Davis, MacDonald, Machida, Alvarez, Henderson, the list goes on.

I used to buy like 5-10 PPVs per year, now it's more like 2.

Oiky · Post by **Oiky** » 31 Oct 2018, 20:33

Ufc is doing something wrong lately that’s for sure

Impractical Poster · Post by **Impractical Poster** » 31 Oct 2018, 23:34

Conor brought a lot of bad ju-ju with him when joining the UFC.

jujigatame · Post by **jujigatame** » 01 Nov 2018, 09:49

I mean it's not entirely their fault. Jones and McGregor really screwed up 2 of the historically strongest divisions with their antics. But it does feel like management decisions are increasingly being made with financial considerations in mind over sporting ones.

Tinnie · Post by **Tinnie** » 01 Nov 2018, 18:16

Anyone see the footage of Stephan Bonnar being arrested for driving drunk? Looks proper out of it!

Apparently found an empty bottle of vodka, painkillers and an ar-15 in his car

.... all the ingredients for a happy ending eh

Impractical Poster · Post by **Impractical Poster** » 01 Nov 2018, 18:23

Tinnie wrote: ↑01 Nov 2018, 18:16 Anyone see the footage of Stephan Bonnar being arrested for driving drunk? Looks proper out of it!

Apparently found an empty bottle of vodka, painkillers and an ar-15 in his car .... all the ingredients for a happy ending eh

I noticed Bonnar had gone off the deep end in the lead up to the Ortiz fight. Doesn't surprise me.

Tinnie · Post by **Tinnie** » 01 Nov 2018, 21:09

Impractical Poster wrote: ↑01 Nov 2018, 18:23
Tinnie wrote: ↑01 Nov 2018, 18:16 Anyone see the footage of Stephan Bonnar being arrested for driving drunk? Looks proper out of it!

Apparently found an empty bottle of vodka, painkillers and an ar-15 in his car .... all the ingredients for a happy ending eh
I noticed Bonnar had gone off the deep end in the lead up to the Ortiz fight. Doesn't surprise me.

I never paid enough attention to notice tbh. I remember watching him in TUF 1 and thought he came across as a right knucklehead.

Tinnie · Post by **Tinnie** » 03 Nov 2018, 22:31

Great win for Adesayna

Impractical Poster · Post by **Impractical Poster** » 04 Nov 2018, 00:01

Weidman-Souza was a dandy!!!!

Was rooting for Weidman, but can't say anything bad about that performance. Great fight!

Tinnie · Post by **Tinnie** » 04 Nov 2018, 00:04

Great clash of striking styles. Weidman was slightly ahead i thought at the time i thought. Jacare classy in victory.

Baby Face Finster · Post by **Baby Face Finster** » 04 Nov 2018, 00:08

Miragliotta should get a lot of flack for not stopping that fight when Weidman went down. Lucky for Weidman that Jacare is a really classy sportsman and didn't want to hit him with one more truly punishing blow.

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