Brain anneurism

jamamb
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Re: Brain anneurism

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i remember jermain taylor had a brain bleed from the abrham fight, and yet he still got sanctioned and had several fights after. even won a title back at mw.

of course...look at him now......i dunno if its because of punches to the head, but that brother just aint right
spudder56
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Re: Brain anneurism

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jamamb wrote: 31 Oct 2018, 10:56 i remember jermain taylor had a brain bleed from the abrham fight, and yet he still got sanctioned and had several fights after. even won a title back at mw.

of course...look at him now......i dunno if its because of punches to the head, but that brother just aint right
That’s why the board are the best in the world for safety I could never see anybody who had had a brain bleed being allowed to fight on a board show in the uk
leejonesjnr
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Re: Brain anneurism

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spudder56 wrote: 31 Oct 2018, 12:13
jamamb wrote: 31 Oct 2018, 10:56 i remember jermain taylor had a brain bleed from the abrham fight, and yet he still got sanctioned and had several fights after. even won a title back at mw.

of course...look at him now......i dunno if its because of punches to the head, but that brother just aint right
That’s why the board are the best in the world for safety I could never see anybody who had had a brain bleed being allowed to fight on a board show in the uk
I won’t say who but I know at the very least one boxer has boxed on BBBoC shows following a bleed.
spudder56
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Re: Brain anneurism

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leejonesjnr wrote: 31 Oct 2018, 12:35
spudder56 wrote: 31 Oct 2018, 12:13
jamamb wrote: 31 Oct 2018, 10:56 i remember jermain taylor had a brain bleed from the abrham fight, and yet he still got sanctioned and had several fights after. even won a title back at mw.

of course...look at him now......i dunno if its because of punches to the head, but that brother just aint right
That’s why the board are the best in the world for safety I could never see anybody who had had a brain bleed being allowed to fight on a board show in the uk
I won’t say who but I know at the very least one boxer has boxed on BBBoC shows following a bleed.
What with the full knowledge and blessing of the board mate ?
leejonesjnr
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Re: Brain anneurism

Post by leejonesjnr »

spudder56 wrote: 31 Oct 2018, 12:45
leejonesjnr wrote: 31 Oct 2018, 12:35
spudder56 wrote: 31 Oct 2018, 12:13

That’s why the board are the best in the world for safety I could never see anybody who had had a brain bleed being allowed to fight on a board show in the uk
I won’t say who but I know at the very least one boxer has boxed on BBBoC shows following a bleed.
What with the full knowledge and blessing of the board mate ?
Dunno, I just know a boxer that had a bleed, retired for a while and came back.
I wouldn’t be shocked if the board knew though, when I had two bleeds they didn’t say no, they said ‘have more tests and we will see’.
spudder56
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Re: Brain anneurism

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leejonesjnr wrote: 31 Oct 2018, 12:56
spudder56 wrote: 31 Oct 2018, 12:45
leejonesjnr wrote: 31 Oct 2018, 12:35

I won’t say who but I know at the very least one boxer has boxed on BBBoC shows following a bleed.
What with the full knowledge and blessing of the board mate ?
Dunno, I just know a boxer that had a bleed, retired for a while and came back.
I wouldn’t be shocked if the board knew though, when I had two bleeds they didn’t say no, they said ‘have more tests and we will see’.
Well I was on the area council for about 16 or so years and I had never heard of anybody being allowed to fight again after suffering a bleed on the brain tbh
sparrow_1
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Re: Brain anneurism

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There was an article in BN about 2 months back centring on this. A fighter that featured was Nigel Wright, the former LWW.
I think it was Wright - or quite possibly a kid from Yorkshire, but one of 'em was stopped by the scan. About 6 years later another scan, or a newer interpretation of the original scan (I don't have the article in front of me, sorry) 'revealed' that the irregularity with the blood vessels that was picked up had very likely been there since birth. In the meantime, the guys involved had been through the mill a bit. Depression a commonly mentioned factor.

It must be a real blow to get that drive short-circuited somewhat.

In Wright's case, and I've seen this from another boxer too, the (ex) boxer has said that with what they now know, they'd have come back better versions of themselves (if only they were allowed). Fighter's mentality maybe?

My own view? I'm with the Board. Safety first, even if it sadly means a dream being curtailed. We none of us want to see a tragedy in the ring. Do I believe that the decision is based solely in the fighters' interests? No, I do not. I think that it is based on the Board not wanting to be sued, as it was by Mr Michael Watson's representatives over two decades ago, following which they needed to sell up and relocate to Cardiff, primarily.

This is not to suggest that the Board would knowingly see someone risk becoming badly hurt, only that I think its first consideration is to protect itself.

On a wider point, I think it's a blessing that improvements have been made at BBBoC sanctioned events. Britain, it seems to me, has a long track record of allowing completely preventable tragic events to unfold, that might have been forseen. Hillsborough, the Bradford City fire, the fracas at White Hart Lane where oxygen was not present and where medics were not able to get to the prone fighter (Mr Watson) in a timely fashion - and recently the Grenfell fire.
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