K. Pulev vs. H. Fury

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Re: K. Pulev vs. H. Fury

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Apparently Fury was coming into the fight with a cut, I didn't know that coming in.
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Re: K. Pulev vs. H. Fury

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he started the fight already cut?
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Re: K. Pulev vs. H. Fury

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jamamb wrote: 31 Oct 2018, 23:55 he started the fight already cut?
That's what Peter Fury says.
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Re: K. Pulev vs. H. Fury

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Triggered my memory, I think the same thing happened to Antonio Margarito coming into the Miguel Cotto rematch.
I remember they were talking of cancelling Cotto v Margarito 2 a week or two before the event because I went to that fight in NYC.
I remember sitting ringside when I saw Margarito's eye puffing up and thinking there's no way they will let him go on.
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Re: K. Pulev vs. H. Fury

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He had micro-stitching on a cut he got in training. They tried to get a postponement but the IBF said no which meant either they went through with the fight or Hughie lost his mandatory (sic), by which I think they meant he would have lost his right to contest the IBF's final eliminator.

Obviously they were hoping the repairs would hold but it wasn't to be. His cutman did a magnificent job and the cut didn't really impact on the result or did it? In hindsight I've rather dismissed it as a factor but maybe that's being a little unfair on Hughie because getting cut so badly so early must have had a psychological effect.

I don't know if that would explain his lack of energy though, which seemed to me to be the singlemost important factor in his defeat. I was expecting that stamina would be a massive advantage for the man of 24 compared to the man of 37 but his apparent inability to match Pulev for energy was crucial. I know nerves can drain endurance faster than exertion so maybe the cut caused Hughie a lot of anxiety / nervous energy? What do you think?
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Re: K. Pulev vs. H. Fury

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A micro cut right
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Re: K. Pulev vs. H. Fury

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I agree with Peter Fury’s evaluation of the bout.

Hughie’s cut seemed very bad at the end of the second round, which led to the Brit being uncharacteristically aggressive during round three.

He appeared to abandon his game-plan and was desperately trying to force the stoppage, based on the instructions his father gave him between rounds, resulting in him being gassed for the remainder of the fight.

Hughie entered the fight carrying the eye injury and the psychological impact of having to overcome such an obstacle clearly hindered him severely. It ruined his fight.

Kubrat Pulev was the better fighter on the night and deserved the win. The Bulgarian performed well and probably would have won the fight even if Fury had never been injured, but I strongly suspect that the bout would have been a much more competitive affair without the cut being an influencing factor.

The 24-year-old Hughie Fury has to learn from his mistakes in this fight and try to come back stronger. I doubt the Brit will ever become a world beater, but he’s almost certainly capable of eventually becoming a top-ten world-rated fighter.
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Re: K. Pulev vs. H. Fury

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Evander wrote: 31 Oct 2018, 23:58
jamamb wrote: 31 Oct 2018, 23:55 he started the fight already cut?
That's what Peter Fury says.
The UK commentators of the fight mentioned the fact the eye injury existed beforehand. Fury's camp lobbied the IBF as well.
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Re: K. Pulev vs. H. Fury

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I will not question the previous eye injury.
But team Hughie needs to not give Hughie false hope using excuses.
Tell him how much of a crap performance was. Don't lay the blame on the injury. Go back to the drawing board. Work on following completely through with the jab and not have it fall short 90% of the time.
Have him work on combos and head movement.
No they'll just keep blaming his performance on anything except the truth. He is regressing not progressing.
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Re: K. Pulev vs. H. Fury

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I rather get the impression Tiny, that Hughie is not the sort that would benefit from that approach. He is a Fury but he is nothing like Tyson, Peter, or John. I think he's the quiet introvert type who probably responds better to the arm around the shoulder than getting yellied at.

That'll be 200 dollars please. Book your next session with my secretary on your way out :D
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Re: K. Pulev vs. H. Fury

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The only thing that understands boxing in H Fury is his feet. Given footwork is like dancing. H Fury needs to give up boxing and start dancing. I want to see him in swan lake!
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Re: K. Pulev vs. H. Fury

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when pulev throws a jab he brings his right hand out in front of his face to parry a counter jab.

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so you can slip his jab through the space next to your right ear and over your right shoulder and hook around his parry hand.

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or you can throw your jab, create his counter jab, and hook off of your jab around his parry hand.

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Re: K. Pulev vs. H. Fury

Post by Ilya Muromets »

Huh? Those aren't vids of Pulev.

Yeah me too, Candy. I don't respond at all well to people yelling in my face (I found that out for sure the first 10 seconds in boot camp!) but a friendly arm around the shoulder, very different. Hughie doesn't punch that hard. You can't lesrn that (I was the opposite, i punched very hard but otherwise i didn't know wth i was doing. Combine me and Hughie and then you would be cooking with gas!)
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Re: K. Pulev vs. H. Fury

Post by brilo33 »

to be fair it was a bad cut, but i was still really disappointed in fury , he land a big shot and didn't follow it up, did the same thing all night stuck out left out as a pole not a jab and threw a wild shot and missed with the right or just backed in to a corner , i dont think he is finished, i think he needs a change maybe a new coach or a little time out the ring , come back hungry ,
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