Imagine GGG winning back three mw titles till 40 y/o ! It would be an ATG move! Jacobs, Andrade and Canelo/Jermall

[apollo creed]

I can see this thing happen and here's why. In the last fight with Canelo, GGG showed a lot of skills i.e boxing on the backfoot and landing clean shots. GGG showed his gas tank is still at a good level.

GGG vs Andrade - I would favor GGG
GGG vs Jacobs - Hard fight but I think GGG would win it.
GGG vs Canelo - Hard to beat Canelo without T/K.O him.
GGG vs Jermall - Here is a big question mark because Mall is unproven at the top level and I don't know how good he is?!

[Cent0089]

Cheering for him but i dont think hes able to defeat Alvarez at this point of his career. He should fight Brant, Andrade and then beat the crap out of Saunders. I think he can beat all 3 of them. Then retire.

[apollo creed]

Cheering for him but i dont think hes able to defeat Alvarez at this point of his career. He should fight Brant, Andrade and then beat the crap out of Saunders. I think he can beat all 3 of them. Then retire.

Yeah

[tiny_acres]

3 huge fights over 18 to 24 months?
At his age?
That's asking a bunch

[Enlightened-One]

Imagine GGG winning back three mw titles till 40 y/o ! It would be an ATG move! Jacobs, Andrade and Canelo/Jermall

Two days ago, Abel Sanchez ruled out the possibility of bouts between GGG and hungry up-and-coming lions like Jacobs, Andrade, Charlo and Saunders, because they’re “young fighters” that “bring nothing to the table” and they also needed to “prove themselves” in order to “earn the right” to share the ring with Golovkin.

Sanchez also stated that only box office fights “make sense” at this late stage of Gennady’s career, so name recognition is a key consideration factor.

Finally, Abel also didn’t sound too keen on GGG facing Callum Smith, because Gennady is small middleweight and “168lbs is a big stretch for him”.

I can easily share a video where you can see the man himself saying these things if anyone fancies challenging me on this!

This is obviously a complete turnaround on Team GGG’s previous long-time boasts, whereby they persistently claimed that Golovkin was able to compete against and also beat the very best fighter's in their natural habitat, ranging from 154lbs to 175lbs. They also said that Gennady was even dominating cruiserweights in sparring.

It’s kind of ironic how times have changed!

• Is Golovkin “ducking” Andrade, Charlo, Saunders and arguably Jacobs, because of his preference to chase bigger paydays?

• Did Team GGG lie all along about Golovkin’s ability to compete in all the weight classes ranging from 154lbs to 175lbs, because he’s never once attempted to justify his boasts by actually proving it?

I don’t want to portray myself as a “hater”, but I surely can’t be the only human being on this planet that accurately recalls Abel Sanchez’s contradictory statements?

Didn’t GGG’s die-hard fans aggressively ridicule Gennady’s peers for doing the same thing Abel Sanchez claims that Golovkin is choosing to do right now?

Ami I being unreasonable or am I simply stating the obvious?

[apollo creed]

3 huge fights over 18 to 24 months?
At his age?
That's asking a bunch

You can't say that GGG looked bad or average in the Canelo rematch to suggest he aged overnight.

[apollo creed]

Imagine GGG winning back three mw titles till 40 y/o ! It would be an ATG move! Jacobs, Andrade and Canelo/Jermall

Two days ago, Abel Sanchez ruled out the possibility of bouts between GGG and hungry up-and-coming lions like Jacobs, Andrade, Charlo and Saunders, because they’re “young fighters” that “bring nothing to the table” and they also needed to “prove themselves” in order to “earn the right” to share the ring with Golovkin.

Sanchez also stated that only box office fights “make sense” at this late stage of Gennady’s career, so name recognition is a key consideration factor.

Finally, Abel also didn’t sound too keen on GGG facing Callum Smith, because Gennady is small middleweight and “168lbs is a big stretch for him”.

I can easily share a video where you can see the man himself saying these things if anyone fancies challenging me on this!

This is obviously a complete turnaround on Team GGG’s previous long-time boasts, whereby they persistently claimed that Golovkin was able to compete against and also beat the very best fighter's in their natural habitat, ranging from 154lbs to 175lbs. They also said that Gennady was even dominating cruiserweights in sparring.

It’s kind of ironic how times have changed!

• Is Golovkin “ducking” Andrade, Charlo, Saunders and arguably Jacobs, because of his preference to chase bigger paydays?

• Did Team GGG lie all along about Golovkin’s ability to compete in all the weight classes ranging from 154lbs to 175lbs, because he’s never once attempted to justify his boasts by actually proving it?

I don’t want to portray myself as a “hater”, but I surely can’t be the only human being on this planet that accurately recalls Abel Sanchez’s contradictory statements?

Didn’t GGG’s die-hard fans aggressively ridicule Gennady’s peers for doing the same thing Abel Sanchez claims that Golovkin is choosing to do right now?

Ami I being unreasonable or am I simply stating the obvious?

Go to sleep old man.

[Enlightened-One]

Imagine GGG winning back three mw titles till 40 y/o ! It would be an ATG move! Jacobs, Andrade and Canelo/Jermall

Two days ago, Abel Sanchez ruled out the possibility of bouts between GGG and hungry up-and-coming lions like Jacobs, Andrade, Charlo and Saunders, because they’re “young fighters” that “bring nothing to the table” and they also needed to “prove themselves” in order to “earn the right” to share the ring with Golovkin.

Sanchez also stated that only box office fights “make sense” at this late stage of Gennady’s career, so name recognition is a key consideration factor.

Finally, Abel also didn’t sound too keen on GGG facing Callum Smith, because Gennady is small middleweight and “168lbs is a big stretch for him”.

I can easily share a video where you can see the man himself saying these things if anyone fancies challenging me on this!

This is obviously a complete turnaround on Team GGG’s previous long-time boasts, whereby they persistently claimed that Golovkin was able to compete against and also beat the very best fighter's in their natural habitat, ranging from 154lbs to 175lbs. They also said that Gennady was even dominating cruiserweights in sparring.

It’s kind of ironic how times have changed!

• Is Golovkin “ducking” Andrade, Charlo, Saunders and arguably Jacobs, because of his preference to chase bigger paydays?

• Did Team GGG lie all along about Golovkin’s ability to compete in all the weight classes ranging from 154lbs to 175lbs, because he’s never once attempted to justify his boasts by actually proving it?

I don’t want to portray myself as a “hater”, but I surely can’t be the only human being on this planet that accurately recalls Abel Sanchez’s contradictory statements?

Didn’t GGG’s die-hard fans aggressively ridicule Gennady’s peers for doing the same thing Abel Sanchez claims that Golovkin is choosing to do right now?

Ami I being unreasonable or am I simply stating the obvious?

Go to sleep old man.

You sound like a GGG die-hard fan that is deeply frustrated and slightly embarrassed about being powerless to undermine anything that I’ve written, so instead of challenging the argument, you resort to attempting to attack the arguer.

Good for you kid! It’s good to see you conceding defeat like this!

[tiny_acres]

3 huge fights over 18 to 24 months?
At his age?
That's asking a bunch

You can't say that GGG looked bad or average in the Canelo rematch to suggest he aged overnight.

Not suggesting that at all.
But you know as well as I do it would take a minimum of 18 to 24 months to make 3 title fights.
How well will GGG look in 2 years. I'm just saying it is a lot to ask of any aging fighter

[SFW]

Golovkin would have to stop Canelo, it doesn't seem like he can do that so getting even older makes that even less likely to happen. It's a shame. He clearly beat Dopey the first fight. Was even the 2nd fight coming on stronger than the prime superstar down the stretch. The cheater got rewarded, when Golovkin should have never lost his titles to begin with. Now that should bother people more than the silly boasting and talk to drum up press hyping potential fights creating noise. That stuff should be expected by now, but it seems like some folks got their invisible clipboard out more concerned with being right about one person choosing to give a complete pass to another. Sadly, the vanity that drives that bias clouds these particular asshole's brains. Stacking quotes like your preparing for a deposition in one guys case, sniffling apologist for a lying cheating caught red handed rat in another case. That's just silly. And why nobody cares, even when the argument is solid, to bother with prejudice long winded drivel. Now bow your heads, let us pray. Pray that we all eventually live up to our online handles, for one. Maybe pray for more honest judging as well, God knows we don't get it like we should. And obviously pray for a Canelo-Golovkin 3 as we might finally see Golovkin actually lose.

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• Is Golovkin “ducking” Andrade, Charlo, Saunders and arguably Jacobs, because of his preference to chase bigger paydays?

I wouldn't go as far as to say 'ducking'. He signed to fight Saunders, only for Canelo to tell him he couldn't take the fight. Since BJS failed his drug test, he has nothing to offer. If Golovkin wants his belts back/the WBO he never held, you'd think he'd have to fight Andrade or Jacobs. To be honest, Canelo 3 aside, I don't really see where the bigger paydays are. Charlo, Jacobs, Andrade and Saunders are the biggest names at 160, and likely bring the biggest financial rewards.

• Did Team GGG lie all along about Golovkin’s ability to compete in all the weight classes ranging from 154lbs to 175lbs, because he’s never once attempted to justify his boasts by actually proving it?

I don’t want to portray myself as a “hater”, but I surely can’t be the only human being on this planet that accurately recalls Abel Sanchez’s contradictory statements?

Didn’t GGG’s die-hard fans aggressively ridicule Gennady’s peers for doing the same thing Abel Sanchez claims that Golovkin is choosing to do right now?

Ami I being unreasonable or am I simply stating the obvious?

I wouldn't say they 'lied' about the 154 to 168 thing either. I see that as them trying to attract names to fight him (specifically Mayweather, Froch and Kessler) at a time he was seen as high risk/low reward.

I'm a Golovkin fan who would like to see him continue to face the biggest threats out there. If he's happy to not chase the belt though, he's not really holding back any of the younger fighters anyway. His promotional situation in Germany (placed behind Sturm and Zbik) and the way he was denied shots at Sergio and Cotto's titles did slow down Golovkin's career earlier on.

This is Sanchez talking anyway. He's well known for talking bollocks. If Golovkin does wind down his career avoiding any risks, outside of a 3rd megafight with Canelo, I will call him out on that.

I don't think you're being unfair, but I do think we should wait and see what happens, and criticise (or praise) after the fact, rather than focus too much on what one mouthy trainer is saying right now.

[apollo creed]

3 huge fights over 18 to 24 months?
At his age?
That's asking a bunch

You can't say that GGG looked bad or average in the Canelo rematch to suggest he aged overnight.

Not suggesting that at all.
But you know as well as I do it would take a minimum of 18 to 24 months to make 3 title fights.
How well will GGG look in 2 years. I'm just saying it is a lot to ask of any aging fighter

Well yes it take some time but atm GGG may be seen as a 'facile' valuable scalp for the younger top mws and probably the eagerness to face him is much bigger.

[boxing_rocks]

Young Golovkin was more than willing to fight at 168 (Chavez Jr, Froch) or even higher (Hopkins). Now when he got old and famous (and I am sure has some annoying injuries), situation obviously changed and Abel's words reflect that.

The only lying one in this situation is EO.

[apollo creed]

Young Golovkin was more than willing to fight at 168 (Chavez Jr, Froch) or even higher (Hopkins). Now when he got old and famous (and I am sure has some annoying injuries), situation obviously changed and Abel's words reflect that.

The only lying one in this situation is EO.

Elder One is just typing from his armchair his usually nonsenses. Of course that at that moment GGG was willing to move up in weight for the valuable names like Froch, Kessler or down for FMJ, Cotto and Canelo because Sturm, Martinez and Quillin were avoiding him like plague.

[Thomastearns]

Young Golovkin was more than willing to fight at 168 (Chavez Jr, Froch) or even higher (Hopkins). Now when he got old and famous (and I am sure has some annoying injuries), situation obviously changed and Abel's words reflect that.

The only lying one in this situation is EO.

Exactly. What was said by a trainer of any 30+ fighter 5 years ago has little relevance today.

Whether Gennady Golovkin is the best middleweight on the planet is still of relevance though.

If anyone's ducking anyone fingers should be pointing at Canelo for conveniently moving up to super-middle when there's still much business left at middle. Can anyone see him ever risking Jacobs or even Saunders?

As they say, follow the money. I have no doubt that GGG v Canelo 3 is the ultimate plan. So a couple of filler fights for now will be the likely order of the day.

[apollo creed]

Young Golovkin was more than willing to fight at 168 (Chavez Jr, Froch) or even higher (Hopkins). Now when he got old and famous (and I am sure has some annoying injuries), situation obviously changed and Abel's words reflect that.

The only lying one in this situation is EO.

Exactly. What was said by a trainer of any 30+ fighter 5 years ago has little relevance today.

Whether Gennady Golovkin is the best middleweight on the planet is still of relevance though.

If anyone's ducking anyone fingers should be pointing at Canelo for conveniently moving up to super-middle when there's still much business left at middle. Can anyone see him ever risking Jacobs or even Saunders?

As they say, follow the money. I have no doubt that GGG v Canelo 3 is the ultimate plan. So a couple of filler fights for now will be the likely order of the day.

Cinco de Mayo 2019.

[Enlightened-One]

Young Golovkin was more than willing to fight at 168 (Chavez Jr, Froch) or even higher (Hopkins). Now when he got old and famous (and I am sure has some annoying injuries), situation obviously changed and Abel's words reflect that.

The only lying one in this situation is EO.

You’re accusing me of lying, but we’ve had enough discussions about GGG before where I’ve ALWAYS been able to supply evidence to justify my claims.

Do you need me to do it again to prove how Abel Sanchez’s assertions about GGG have completely changed -to the point of hypocrisy?

I know for certain you’ve seen Sanchez previously making claims that are the polar opposite to his most recent statements, which means your accusations about me “lying” are fûckîng laughable to the extreme... unless you’re suffering from some form of dementia... in which case I pity you.

Come on kid, try and prove that my previous post was factually inaccurate? I dare you!

On a side note, was GGG willing to face Andre Ward at 168lbs or did Gennady, Tom Loeffler and Able Sanchez state on videos (and also in emails to Doug Fischer and Dan Rafael) that he’d consider facing the S.O.G. at 164lbs?

[Enlightened-One]

Young Golovkin was more than willing to fight at 168 (Chavez Jr, Froch) or even higher (Hopkins). Now when he got old and famous (and I am sure has some annoying injuries), situation obviously changed and Abel's words reflect that.

The only lying one in this situation is EO.

Elder One is just typing from his armchair his usually nonsenses. Of course that at that moment GGG was willing to move up in weight for the valuable names like Froch, Kessler or down for FMJ, Cotto and Canelo because Sturm, Martinez and Quillin were avoiding him like plague.

GGG flatly refused to either compete at light middleweight or engage in catchweight bouts against Cotto and Canelo. Golovkin even refused an opportunity to face Kell Brook at a 157lbs catchweight.

Your post contains lies! Your claims never happened!

Tom Loeffler never submitted any financial offers to Sturm, Martinez and Quillin to face GGG. You can’t prove otherwise. No one can, because it’s impossible to do so!

Why do you persistently make ludicrous claims that you cannot possibly substantiate?

I eagerly want to see you try your best to provide any sort of evidence to disprove the facts I’ve detailed in this post.

Please bring it on!

[apollo creed]

Young Golovkin was more than willing to fight at 168 (Chavez Jr, Froch) or even higher (Hopkins). Now when he got old and famous (and I am sure has some annoying injuries), situation obviously changed and Abel's words reflect that.

The only lying one in this situation is EO.

Elder One is just typing from his armchair his usually nonsenses. Of course that at that moment GGG was willing to move up in weight for the valuable names like Froch, Kessler or down for FMJ, Cotto and Canelo because Sturm, Martinez and Quillin were avoiding him like plague.

GGG flatly refused to either compete at light middleweight or engage in catchweight bouts against Cotto and Canelo. Golovkin even refused an opportunity to face Kell Brook at a 157lbs catchweight.

Your post contains lies! Your claims never happened!

Tom Loeffler never submitted any financial offers to Sturm, Martinez and Quillin to face GGG. You can’t prove otherwise. No one can, because it’s impossible to do so!

Why do you persistently make ludicrous claims that you cannot possibly substantiate?

I eagerly want to see you try your best to provide any sort of evidence to disprove the facts I’ve detailed in this post.

Please bring it on!

Take a nap elder one. You re tired and delusional as always.