Oleksandr Usyk vs. Tony Bellew - 10 November 2018

Who wins?

Poll ended at 11 Nov 2018, 07:23

Usyk - Decision
52
36%
Usyk - K/TKO
72
50%
DRAW
1
1%
Bellew - K/TKO
16
11%
Bellew - Decision
2
1%
 
Total votes: 143

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Tony Bellew: Off Limits

November 4, 2018, 6:30pm

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bellew has to fight the bout of his life and leave everything on the line to come close to something resembling a somehow justifiable win.

Ref & judges have to provide a little assistance and Usyk has to get caught & have an absolute horror shit day all around.

I know the following sounds obvious & far easier said than done but bellew has to hurt him, make an impression early, not letting usyk get into his routine.

He has to hit him hard first and keep hitting even if usyk catches him.

If he waits on chances to counterpunch he will wait all night getting beat up in the process.

If he tries to cover up, box behind his jab and occasionaly swings for the knockout usy picks him apart.

Don't know if bellew is capable of catching usyk early & follow through hard but that's the only chance i see to let the ref waive it off and get the win.🤭
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Tony explained his loss to Stevenson to JD Sports “that little fella wont come near me, he’s little, he wouldn’t mess with me anymore “.
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Bellew has no chance in this one. People still underrating Usyk.
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bellew has to go for it. he has to land that sweet left hook and land it early so usyk is wary.

if bellew waits for usyk to lead off it will be a frustrating night for tony...he will lose by ud or stoppage after 7 round.
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He looks slim, maybe 205 now. Really would like to know how heavy they both enter the ring. Sure both over 210 but I think usyk, natural slightly bigger may even come in a few pounds heavier than tony. Usyk top fit for sure, i hope loosing all that weight didn't drain bellew.
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Bellew can hit but if Gassiev and Breidis struggle to hurt Usyk I sincerely doubt Tony can. Usyk is coming in to the fight off the back of an absolute master class against Gassiev. I think he'll thrive fighting over here.
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I'm a self admitted Usyk fanboy and proud but there is a part of me that would like to see Bellew pull this off, he's done very well in his career of late , I wrote him off twice against Haye and twice he proved me wrong, we can harp on about Haye's body breaking down but that's his problem not Bellew's, I thought Bellew was a lot more clinical in the rematch, scored hard heavy legit knockdowns whereas the first fight seemed to be Bellew just bundling the one legged Haye over, beating injured fighters is far from ideal but Bellew just took his opportunity with both hands and now he has a chance of becoming undisputed champ

Usyk's skills are on another level though as are his cojones and temprement, he gave Gassiev such a schooling that he'll never be the same, I thought Usyk easily beat Briedis as well despite most feeling it was close, Usyk's got the punch variety, the movement and boxing brain to give the more conventional Bellew fits, I think Bellew's only real chance is nailing Usyk with that left hook in an exchange, I think Usyk will know this perfectly well though and is too clever to fall into any traps

I think Usyk will just do as Usyk does, plenty movement, plenty combinations and just befuddle Bellew,, my only criticism of Usyk is that he doesn't plant his feet sometimes, that'll come with experience though, Usyk will know Stevenson KO'd Bellew as 175 so he'll be looking for a KO i'd imagine, I reckon he stops Bellew after the middle, I can see Bellew maybe getting saved from a towel after getting busted up
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Ruthless-RKO wrote: 01 Nov 2018, 10:16 This guy is hilarious



:lol:
Great feet and movement :-)
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Roberto! Usyk not planting his feet "sometimes", while punching opponents to bits while switching angles is a bold statement. To suggest it's lack of experience is rightaway hilarious. The man has 400 amateurfights, i guess experience is his least problem.

He's a perfect fighter, at the pinacle of his abilities, doubt there's anything he still has to learn technically.

Of course you never stop to garner experience generally, but i'm sure usyk knows perfectly well when & how to plant his feet.
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There’s someone on this forum who also has boxing dreams.. haha

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Bellew said this is a netural venue in his eyes... it's almost like Manchester isn't 35mins from Liverpool by train lol
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Breidis and Gassiev would both be too much for Bellew. I think both would stop him, possibly sparking him out. I’d favour Dorticos over him too.

Usyk? I’m expecting a lop sided fight that is closer on the scorecards than it really is. Expect a virtual shuout being scored 116-112.
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In order to watch this fight, and pay for it, it needed to have a half decent undercard. It doesn't.
Even though it is only $35 (£17) I don't think it's worth it.
Apart from the main event- can anyone tell me a fight on the undercard that will be good?
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adislav123 wrote: 05 Nov 2018, 08:22 Roberto! Usyk not planting his feet "sometimes", while punching opponents to bits while switching angles is a bold statement. To suggest it's lack of experience is rightaway hilarious. The man has 400 amateurfights, i guess experience is his least problem.

He's a perfect fighter, at the pinacle of his abilities, doubt there's anything he still has to learn technically.

Of course you never stop to garner experience generally, but i'm sure usyk knows perfectly well when & how to plant his feet.
Listen I'm not saying boxing experience as such , Lomachenko had nearly 400 amateur fights as well but we've definitely seen him develop into more of a pro style, he's still got all the movement but sits down a lot more, his first handful of fights is different from how he's been since around the time of the Martinez KO, I think if Usyk was to hang around Cruiserweight I'm sure his punching power would become more apparent, gonna be tough up at Heavyweight though
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lillywhite14 wrote: 05 Nov 2018, 13:14 Breidis and Gassiev would both be too much for Bellew. I think both would stop him, possibly sparking him out. I’d favour Dorticos over him too.

Usyk? I’m expecting a lop sided fight that is closer on the scorecards than it really is. Expect a virtual shuout being scored 116-112.
I agree with these points, although Bellew-Dorticos sounds as a close matchup for me.
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Usyk is surely far too good... but what odds the gobby scouser somehow......somehow....lands a big shot and :zzz:
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Loftgroov wrote: 05 Nov 2018, 17:22 Usyk is surely far too good... but what odds the gobby scouser somehow......somehow....lands a big shot and :zzz:
I've grown to like Bellew over the last few years and i want him to win big on Saturday,tough ask though :maybe:
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Loftgroov wrote: 05 Nov 2018, 17:22 Usyk is surely far too good... but what odds the gobby scouser somehow......somehow....lands a big shot and :zzz:
I can't believe that people actually think Bellew will win the fight. Even if he does land some kind of FLUKE shot it is still a completely horrible prediction to pick him to win. On all known form he should get completely outclassed from first bell to last, if it goes the distance.

For christs sake if I was pushed I would take Usyk to school Joshua and Wilder. I consider it a monumental insult to my intelligence to read anything giving Bellew a realistic chance of winning the fight. As far as I'm concerned, there is no shame whatsoever in getting schooled by Usyk. People need to get realistic about this fight. If Bellew goes the distance I'll consider it a moral victory.
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Re: Oleksandr Usyk vs. Tony Bellew - 10 November 2018

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Got the weekend off so looking forward to this now, even though it's a gross mismatch.

Bellew doesn't even have a punchers chance and would get knocked out vs Gassiev. A step down for Usyk. This will resemble a Lomachenko fight like his bouts vs Martinez or Walters with a totally out-his-depth Tony Bellend getting a 1 sided beating until his corner say enough is enough.
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