Wilder AJ Whyte = superior genetics?

[guysecretan]

When you consider they all started boxing at 18 or later. This is incredibly late to start a sport and become the best in the world. There are not many sports where you can achieve this especially one that requires quite a lot of technical ability. Wilder still displays his lack of technical finesse but makes up for it with sheer power. Do these fighters simply have the best genetics (not in a racist sense).

[Lackeos]

Are they related or something?

Joshua, Fury, Wilder, both Klitschkos, and Lewis were successful for more or less the same reasons -- elite height, elite reach, elite athleticism (except in Fury's case), great hand speed, and great skill. These sort of physical gifts are best optimized if you have a constant, long, accurate jab. If a big fighter doesn't have good hand speed or doesn't bother to jab every single time the opponent invades his space, then the reach advantage diminishes. These fighters also all generally had great sparring partners (e.g. Joshua and Fury sparred, Wladimir and Wilder sparred, Wladimir and Vitali sparred, Lennox and Mike Tyson sparred, etc.).

Dillian Whyte is not elite, but he's a good contender. He's not that inexperienced, as he's been a pro boxer for 7 years, a pro fighter for 10 years, and he's been boxing longer than that. He also beat Anthony Joshua in the amateurs and sparred David Haye and Vitali.

[ValMar]

Yes, definitely.

[littlepug]

When you consider they all started boxing at 18 or later. This is incredibly late to start a sport and become the best in the world. There are not many sports where you can achieve this especially one that requires quite a lot of technical ability. Wilder still displays his lack of technical finesse but makes up for it with sheer power. Do these fighters simply have the best genetics (not in a racist sense).

They are good athletes but not exactly natural boxers, Joshua ahead of Wilder but still a way behind the likes of Holmes/Ali/Lewis who all flowed like water, being the best in a bad era means little, it just means you dont have to improve your skills because the competition is so poor.

[Thomastearns]

When you consider they all started boxing at 18 or later. This is incredibly late to start a sport and become the best in the world. There are not many sports where you can achieve this especially one that requires quite a lot of technical ability. Wilder still displays his lack of technical finesse but makes up for it with sheer power. Do these fighters simply have the best genetics (not in a racist sense).

They are good athletes but not exactly natural boxers, Joshua ahead of Wilder but still a way behind the likes of Holmes/Ali/Lewis who all flowed like water, being the best in a bad era means little, it just means you dont have to improve your skills because the competition is so poor.

Yes, truly natural boxers tend to have started earlier. Someone like Duran, who seemed so at ease in a boxing ring, was already fighting as a pro by 16. Ali never looked uncomfortable in a boxing ring and some of that must have rubbed off on Holmes. Luckily for Larry, none of his one time employers less than Spartan mid 70s preparation did.

I'm sure both Wilder and Joshua are trying their utmost to improve their skills into getting the job done, but right now there is no great stylist in the division. At first glance at the current scene you might think it's more a matter of size first, skill second, and careful matchmaking third.

Luis Ortiz is possibly the most technically skilled heavyweight out there currently, whilst Fury is easily the best mover. If you could somehow combine the talents of both...

[fanman]

fury is more skilled than ortiz.

[oogiebe]

When you consider they all started boxing at 18 or later. This is incredibly late to start a sport and become the best in the world. There are not many sports where you can achieve this especially one that requires quite a lot of technical ability. Wilder still displays his lack of technical finesse but makes up for it with sheer power. Do these fighters simply have the best genetics (not in a racist sense).

They are good athletes but not exactly natural boxers, Joshua ahead of Wilder but still a way behind the likes of Holmes/Ali/Lewis who all flowed like water, being the best in a bad era means little, it just means you dont have to improve your skills because the competition is so poor.

Yes, truly natural boxers tend to have started earlier. Someone like Duran, who seemed so at ease in a boxing ring, was already fighting as a pro by 16. Ali never looked uncomfortable in a boxing ring and some of that must have rubbed off on Holmes. Luckily for Larry, none of his one time employers less than Spartan mid 70s preparation did.

I'm sure both Wilder and Joshua are trying their utmost to improve their skills into getting the job done, but right now there is no great stylist in the division. At first glance at the current scene you might think it's more a matter of size first, skill second, and careful matchmaking third.

Luis Ortiz is possibly the most technically skilled heavyweight out there currently, whilst Fury is easily the best mover. If you could somehow combine the talents of both...

Interesting points! I agree that Ortiz is probably the most technically skilled. Really liked your points on this.