Top 5 Non-Heavyweight US PPV Boxing Events

johnswan1 · Post by **johnswan1** » 11 May 2006, 04:33

1. Oscar De La Hoya v Felix Trinidad 1,400,000 buys
2. Oscar De La Hoya v Bernard Hopkins 1,000,000 buys
3. Oscar De La Hoya v Shane Mosley II 950,000 buys
4. Oscar De La Hoya v Fernando Vargas 935,000 buys
5. Oscar De La Hoya v Ricardo Mayorga 875,000 buys

Lenny · Post by **Lenny** » 11 May 2006, 04:35

What would Mayweather gain from a De La Hoya fight?

jamesmcdonnell · Post by **jamesmcdonnell** » 11 May 2006, 04:40

Yeah, hard to imagine eh?

I believe also, that the top of that list is only superceded by a very few heavyweight fights, DLH outsells most heavyweight title fights as well. In fact, I may be right in saying that his fight with trinidad is the 2nd highest selling PPV ever.

johnswan1 · Post by **johnswan1** » 11 May 2006, 04:45

Was the highest ever Tyson-Holyfield?

knockout · Post by **knockout** » 11 May 2006, 04:46

jamesmcdonnell wrote:Yeah, hard to imagine eh?

I believe also, that the top of that list is only superceded by a very few heavyweight fights, DLH outsells most heavyweight title fights as well. In fact, I may be right in saying that his fight with trinidad is the 2nd highest selling PPV ever.

yeah, i think only Tyson V Holyfield 2 and/or 1 did better....

johnswan1 · Post by **johnswan1** » 11 May 2006, 04:51

Other figures for comparison:

Jones-Tarver I 302,000 buys
Jones-Tarver II 384,000 buys
Jones-Tarver III 440,000 buys
Jones-Ruiz 602,000 buys
Mayweather-Gatti 360,000 buys
Mayweather-Judah 350,000 buys
Hopkins-Taylor I 370,000 buys
Hopkins-Taylor II 410,000 buys
Hopkins-Trinidad 480,000 buys
Trinidad-Wright 520,000 buys
Trinidad-Vargas 560,000 buys

johnswan1 · Post by **johnswan1** » 11 May 2006, 05:00

Tyson-Holyfield II 1,990,000 buys
Tyson-Lewis 1,800,000 buys

jamesmcdonnell · Post by **jamesmcdonnell** » 11 May 2006, 05:00

Holyfield v Foreman 1.4 Million.
Tyson v Holyfield 2 did 2 million, more than the 1st one.

DLH is a money making machine only outdone by Tyson in the history of boxing, and Ali of course when put into perspective. Without Ali, boxing would never have become the huge industry it now is.

jamesmcdonnell · Post by **jamesmcdonnell** » 11 May 2006, 05:02

johnswan1 wrote:Was the highest ever Tyson-Holyfield?

Yes, their second fight is the biggest ever PPV. Had Foreman and Tyson fought it would have outdone even that, it would probably have done 3 million.

johnswan1 · Post by **johnswan1** » 11 May 2006, 05:06

Do you think DLH-Mayweather would eclipse DLH-Trinidad? I'm not sure it would. Trinidad had such a big following himself, where Mayweather does not. I would guess a DLH-Mayweather match up would do 1,000,000-1,200,000 buys, but mainly because of it being DLHs last fight and the impressive performance against Mayorga.

jamesmcdonnell · Post by **jamesmcdonnell** » 11 May 2006, 05:18

johnswan1 wrote:Do you think DLH-Mayweather would eclipse DLH-Trinidad? I'm not sure it would. Trinidad had such a big following himself, where Mayweather does not. I would guess a DLH-Mayweather match up would do 1,000,000-1,200,000 buys, but mainly because of it being DLHs last fight and the impressive performance against Mayorga.

Agreed, Trinidad was almost as popular as DLH with a rabid puerto rican following. Oscar was more maintstream, with lots of young hispanic girls snail trailing their knickers whenever he fought.

knockout · Post by **knockout** » 11 May 2006, 05:22

jamesmcdonnell wrote:
johnswan1 wrote:Was the highest ever Tyson-Holyfield?
Yes, their second fight is the biggest ever PPV. Had Foreman and Tyson fought it would have outdone even that, it would probably have done 3 million.

shit, 3 million at $50 a pop, thats $150m in US PPV only, plus live gate and international rights.... Tyson and Foreman would have probably got minimum $40m each

Trinidad was very popular... he was in many ways the anti-de la hoya....
Oscar got all the pretty young girls buying PPV... Tito got all the thugz buying PPV

Ulysses · Post by **Ulysses** » 11 May 2006, 05:53

From a financial point of view I think De La Hoya-Margarito would do good numbers and generate some serious $$$ – purely from a Hispanic perspective if the fight was on Mexican Independence day.
For the same reason De La Hoya-Rivera is also do-able, Golden Boy and Don King proved they can work well together and Rivera has been getting rave reviews for his performance against Terra Garcia.

johnswan1 · Post by **johnswan1** » 11 May 2006, 06:33

Ulysses wrote:From a financial point of view I think De La Hoya-Margarito would do good numbers and generate some serious $$$ – purely from a Hispanic perspective if the fight was on Mexican Independence day.
For the same reason De La Hoya-Rivera is also do-able, Golden Boy and Don King proved they can work well together and Rivera has been getting rave reviews for his performance against Terra Garcia.

But Rivera was beaten by Collazo at 147 lbs so if Hatton knocks the shit out of Collazo, Rivera will hardly be seen as a difficult opponent for DLH at 154 lbs. Terra Garcia has only fought on TV twice. The first time he was knocked cold by Travis Simms, the second time he was put down five times so difficult to assess how good he is/was.

steve689 · Post by **steve689** » 11 May 2006, 07:04

jamesmcdonnell wrote:Agreed, Trinidad was almost as popular as DLH with a rabid puerto rican following. Oscar was more maintstream, with lots of young hispanic girls snail trailing their knickers whenever he fought.

You are right about that, i remember sitting next to a Hispanic lovely at the DLH-Hopkins weigh in and she took every opportunity to scream "Oscar!" and wave hysterically.

BubiScholz · Post by **BubiScholz** » 11 May 2006, 07:13

I have heard that more than 50 million hispanics are living in the USA. they are enthusiastic and they love boxing. so it is no surprise that a lot of young chicas and gay chicos buy PPVs.

knockout · Post by **knockout** » 11 May 2006, 07:20

BubiScholz wrote:I have heard that more than 50 million hispanics are living in the USA. they are enthusiastic and they love boxing. so it is no surprise that a lot of young chicas and gay chicos buy PPVs.

LOL at gay chicos...

Fact is aside from baseball the latinos dont make much impact on traditional US team sports where genetically the arent suited ie American football, Basketball and Ice hockey....therefore it probably isnt as appealing for the latinos to watch...

This mean that boxing gets much larger proportion of the latin population tuning in...

Bubi, you are right the US has a lot of "latin people" In LA the "whites" are the ethnic minority now......

stujones · Post by **stujones** » 11 May 2006, 07:30

I suppose Hopkins vs Trinidad was effected by September 11th... I'm sure not that many US citezens were thinking "don't forget to buy the boxing".

BubiScholz · Post by **BubiScholz** » 11 May 2006, 07:44

knockout wrote:
BubiScholz wrote:I have heard that more than 50 million hispanics are living in the USA. they are enthusiastic and they love boxing. so it is no surprise that a lot of young chicas and gay chicos buy PPVs.
LOL at gay chicos...

Fact is aside from baseball the latinos dont make much impact on traditional US team sports where genetically the arent suited ie American football, Basketball and Ice hockey....therefore it probably isnt as appealing for the latinos to watch...

This mean that boxing gets much larger proportion of the latin population tuning in...

Bubi, you are right the US has a lot of "latin people" In LA the "whites" are the ethnic minority now......

don´t forget the millions of uncounted latinos who are illegally in the US

Autobarn · Post by **Autobarn** » 11 May 2006, 09:17

johnswan1 wrote:1. Oscar De La Hoya v Felix Trinidad 1,400,000 buys
2. Oscar De La Hoya v Bernard Hopkins 1,000,000 buys
3. Oscar De La Hoya v Shane Mosley II 950,000 buys
4. Oscar De La Hoya v Fernando Vargas 935,000 buys
5. Oscar De La Hoya v Ricardo Mayorga 875,000 buys

just cos he knows how to smile in front of a camera, gullible bostards

Ulysses · Post by **Ulysses** » 11 May 2006, 10:41

johnswan1 wrote:
Ulysses wrote:From a financial point of view I think De La Hoya-Margarito would do good numbers and generate some serious $$$ – purely from a Hispanic perspective if the fight was on Mexican Independence day.
For the same reason De La Hoya-Rivera is also do-able, Golden Boy and Don King proved they can work well together and Rivera has been getting rave reviews for his performance against Terra Garcia.
But Rivera was beaten by Collazo at 147 lbs so if Hatton knocks the shit out of Collazo, Rivera will hardly be seen as a difficult opponent for DLH at 154 lbs. Terra Garcia has only fought on TV twice. The first time he was knocked cold by Travis Simms, the second time he was put down five times so difficult to assess how good he is/was.

Good points, i've yet to see the fight, but by all accounts Rivera looked very good...

lvlarc · Post by **lvlarc** » 11 May 2006, 20:25

Anyone know what the top 5 purses would be?

Neri · Post by **Neri** » 12 May 2006, 01:30

viciousmaussa wrote:
johnswan1 wrote:1. Oscar De La Hoya v Felix Trinidad 1,400,000 buys
2. Oscar De La Hoya v Bernard Hopkins 1,000,000 buys
3. Oscar De La Hoya v Shane Mosley II 950,000 buys
4. Oscar De La Hoya v Fernando Vargas 935,000 buys
5. Oscar De La Hoya v Ricardo Mayorga 875,000 buys
just cos he knows how to smile in front of a camera, gullible bostards

And he can sing!

shoutout · Post by **shoutout** » 12 May 2006, 02:11

Lenny Albert wrote:What would Mayweather gain from a De La Hoya fight?

my guess is between 1.1-1.3 million...better than oscar-hopkins, but not as good as oscar-trinidad!!

shoutout · Post by **shoutout** » 12 May 2006, 02:23

Ulysses wrote:From a financial point of view I think De La Hoya-Margarito would do good numbers and generate some serious $$$ – purely from a Hispanic perspective if the fight was on Mexican Independence day.
For the same reason De La Hoya-Rivera is also do-able, Golden Boy and Don King proved they can work well together and Rivera has been getting rave reviews for his performance against Terra Garcia.

except for hardcore fight fans, margarito is relatively unknown compared to mayorga...probably would do about same as oscar-rivera---IMO about 600-700,000!!

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