Klimas is speaking about Usyk vs. Ward. What do you think about ?

ValMar · Post by **ValMar** » 19 Nov 2018, 14:44

I don't think this is a realistic scenario, but .....Who knows ?
Would you like to see this match, and what kind of result would you expect ?

Ruthless-RKO · Post by **Ruthless-RKO** » 19 Nov 2018, 14:58

Good fight.

It’s not gonna happen.

boxing_rocks · Post by **boxing_rocks** » 19 Nov 2018, 14:59

The only two countries where this fight could draw decent money are U.S. and Ukraine. Ward is not travelling to Ukraine and I think Usyk shouldn't fight Ward in the U.S., as his balls are likely not as evasive as his head and body.

dagilechia · Post by **dagilechia** » 19 Nov 2018, 15:38

Usyk would win this comfortably.

i don't want to see this fight for a simple reason - i want to see Usyk already at HW

ewenhay · Post by **ewenhay** » 19 Nov 2018, 16:05

Ward just about coped with Kovalev.

Usyk is bigger and faster.

I think he's too much for Ward.

boxing_rocks · Post by **boxing_rocks** » 19 Nov 2018, 16:53

He is definitely too much for Ward, but if Ward is allowed to low blow without being punished, he has a chance.

lazboy · Post by **lazboy** » 19 Nov 2018, 17:05

Don’t see ward winning this. Maybe he’ll have some success if he has a favourable ref but not enough.

Best Coast · Post by **Best Coast** » 19 Nov 2018, 20:22

ValMar wrote: ↑19 Nov 2018, 14:44 I don't think this is a realistic scenario, but .....Who knows ?
Would you like to see this match, and what kind of result would you expect ?

Klimas is just blowing smoke. Ward barely fought at 175 in his final few fights and to expect him to move up again and fight someone 25 pounds more than THAT is ridiculous.

For Usyk to beat a man so much smaller than him would do NOTHING to boost his legacy. A move to HW is the ONLY move that makes sense for Usyk > either financially or legacy-wise.

Usyk-Ward makes as much sense as Spence-Garcia...NONE!!

Mexi-Box · Post by **Mexi-Box** » 19 Nov 2018, 20:26

I'd like to see it. Would be greater if Ward fought someone like Bellew prior or something.

jamamb · Post by **jamamb** » 19 Nov 2018, 20:29

would rather see usyk go to hw straight away, i know bellew-ward got a fair bit of discussion and that always seemed like a weird fight to me.

btw ward picked bellew to beat usyk and imo didnt really respect usyks ability from the interview i saw. hinted that usyk is just another bandwagon fighter. granted these east euro fanboys ride hard, but world+olympic am gold +schooling shws in wsb+undisputed and lineal pro cruiser champ all away from home is absolutely legit. i dont know why ward seemed salty, its hardly like usyk is some ggg who talked big yet spent years vs mediocrity.

BroughtonRulesRefuge · Post by **BroughtonRulesRefuge** » 20 Nov 2018, 03:09

jamamb wrote: ↑19 Nov 2018, 20:29
btw ward picked bellew to beat usyk and imo didnt really respect usyks ability from the interview i saw. hinted that usyk is just another bandwagon fighter. granted these east euro fanboys ride hard, but world+olympic am gold +schooling shws in wsb+undisputed and lineal pro cruiser champ all away from home is absolutely legit. i dont know why ward seemed salty, its hardly like usyk is some ggg who talked big yet spent years vs mediocrity.

- You just another bandwagon fan.

1. GGG beat 4 of the 11 ranked under him and fought Canelo twice and trying for thrice with a bunch of noobs filling out the rest of the boxrec rankings.

2. 16 fights and 4 yr in Son of Gidget was fighting Jason Revelo for the vacant NABO belt. He never unified, never traveled, in fact turning down his biggest purses against Bute in Montreal and the Froch rematch in England.

3. The Kov bouts fraudulently won with the ref all Kov just like every fight the sissy ever had. He's more devoted to his shoe collection than any traditional sport of men.

4. Enjoy your flavor of the month.

DrDuke · Post by **DrDuke** » 20 Nov 2018, 11:19

I'd rather see Usyk in heavyweights. Ward's tricks won't work against Usyk, he'll get outjabbed, outworked by the Ukrainian.

boxing_rocks · Post by **boxing_rocks** » 20 Nov 2018, 11:39

jamamb wrote: ↑19 Nov 2018, 20:29 would rather see usyk go to hw straight away, i know bellew-ward got a fair bit of discussion and that always seemed like a weird fight to me.

btw ward picked bellew to beat usyk and imo didnt really respect usyks ability from the interview i saw. hinted that usyk is just another bandwagon fighter. granted these east euro fanboys ride hard, but world+olympic am gold +schooling shws in wsb+undisputed and lineal pro cruiser champ all away from home is absolutely legit. i dont know why ward seemed salty, its hardly like usyk is some ggg who talked big yet spent years vs mediocrity.

Ward is a jealous motherf*cker. He knows that Usyk is a real slick boxer while himself is a dirty spoiler who needed judges on his side.

Deleted_Scenes · Post by **Deleted_Scenes** » 20 Nov 2018, 11:44

jamamb wrote: ↑19 Nov 2018, 20:29 would rather see usyk go to hw straight away, i know bellew-ward got a fair bit of discussion and that always seemed like a weird fight to me.

btw ward picked bellew to beat usyk and imo didnt really respect usyks ability from the interview i saw. hinted that usyk is just another bandwagon fighter. granted these east euro fanboys ride hard, but world+olympic am gold +schooling shws in wsb+undisputed and lineal pro cruiser champ all away from home is absolutely legit. i dont know why ward seemed salty, its hardly like usyk is some ggg who talked big yet spent years vs mediocrity.

Probably salty because, for all his talent, Ward never achieved what Usyk did, especially when you consider Usyk did it all away from home. Ward never got the recognition from the fans that Usyk is starting to get, either. He was too risk averse, in certain parts of his career, and wasted too much of his prime in a courtroom.

He seemed jealous in that Bellew pick. Doesn't like it that someone just one division away from him is having so much success, and from doing things the hard way.

Deleted_Scenes · Post by **Deleted_Scenes** » 20 Nov 2018, 11:46

DrDuke wrote: ↑20 Nov 2018, 11:19 I'd rather see Usyk in heavyweights. Ward's tricks won't work against Usyk, he'll get outjabbed, outworked by the Ukrainian.

Outjabbed, outworked, outsmarted, and stopped before half distance.

tiny_acres · Post by **tiny_acres** » 20 Nov 2018, 19:48

Regardless of popular belief. This no cake walk for Usyk.
Ward is a viable challenge for any man

Ron C · Post by **Ron C** » 20 Nov 2018, 20:23

Ward by Headbutt

jamamb · Post by **jamamb** » 21 Nov 2018, 04:52

ward is great but for me he didnt win more then half the total rounds vs kovalev and i actually thought he got outboxed on the outside, i think usyks ability + size would be too much, he is imo even better p4p then kov or anyone at lhw aside from being much bigger

ward 6 feet/71 inch reach/low 180s fight night?
kov is 6 feet /72 inch reach/mid 180s fight night
usyk 6'3/78 inch reach/about 210 fight night

btw, kov said he sparred cruisers and there too big , the gap btwn lhw and cw size is the biggest aside from cw to hw

Deadendgeneration · Post by **Deadendgeneration** » 21 Nov 2018, 07:12

Not a big Ward fan, and can't see any way he wins this fight, so I'd like to see it. I do think he's good enough to make it somewhat competitive though.

Deleted_Scenes · Post by **Deleted_Scenes** » 21 Nov 2018, 11:18

tiny_acres wrote: ↑20 Nov 2018, 19:48 Regardless of popular belief. This no cake walk for Usyk.
Ward is a viable challenge for any man

He's a viable challenge for anyone around his own size. Usyk would be carrying a 30-35lb weight advantage, a 3" height advantage, and a 7" reach advantage into the ring.

Ward is (was) good, but he's not that good. Even judged p4p, Usyk would still be the better fighter.

Very good little guys sometimes beat decent big guys. They don't beat elite big guys. Usyk by KO. Probably early.

jamamb · Post by **jamamb** » 21 Nov 2018, 11:25

im not sure about usyk being p4p better but with the size hes too much, imo ward already was feeling the strength of lhws more then smws, and would be over stretched vs a top guy at 200

boxing_rocks · Post by **boxing_rocks** » 21 Nov 2018, 11:42

jamamb wrote: ↑21 Nov 2018, 11:25 im not sure about usyk being p4p better but with the size hes too much, imo ward already was feeling the strength of lhws more then smws, and would be over stretched vs a top guy at 200

Usyk is definitely a better boxer. Ward's arsenal of dirty tricks evens that, so when he is allowed to foul non-stop, he can be a problem to anybody.

oogiebe · Post by **oogiebe** » 21 Nov 2018, 12:02

ewenhay wrote: ↑19 Nov 2018, 16:05 Ward just about coped with Kovalev.

Usyk is bigger and faster.

I think he's too much for Ward.

100%

jamamb · Post by **jamamb** » 21 Nov 2018, 12:04

i think usyk would prob stop kov in about 5 rounds, imo hes p4p better and of course bigger then all the lhws around now

Ilya Muromets · Post by **Ilya Muromets** » 21 Nov 2018, 13:13

No way. Even with Ward's paid off refs and judges assisting him he wouldn't have a chance as Usyk is in a whole different league. Usyk should move up to heavy. Kovalev beat Ward twice (Ward should have been dq'd in the second fight for repeated low blows but his ref accomplice just looked on approvingly., and Ward clearly lost the first), but since the two fights were in Mafia Vegas their records show something different.