Deep pocket handlers and their cash cow, Wilder

[Ilya Muromets]

Let's see what tricks they've got planned for LA because they've been nurturing and protecting their dim witted pet in order to cash out on a big money fight with Joshua in the UK, they hope. That's their plan. Who won't be on their payroll this weekend? The ref, the ring doctor, the judges, the tv announcers surely will.

Remember all of Wilder's junk fights, how his handlers and the las vegas mafia's doc margaret drug test crew weaseled him out of the scheduled fight with povetkin; how they trotted out the actor playing a ring doctor to give him extra time in round 8 when ortiz was about to ko him; how Molina deliberately backed off when he had Wilder in trouble; how rather ordinary Szpilka was beating him before he got caught; losing club fighter Conniers putting him on his ass; all his junk record padding fights like the two with Stiverne; Malik Scott taking an obvious dive; and has anybody ever seen the little guy in the costume on that Spanish language tv show that Wilder sucker punched with all his might? How much hush money did Wilder's deep pocket handlers pay him or his surviving relatives, as the case may be?

[tiny_acres]

Damn you suck.
Nothing to add to this forum except conspiracy theories.

[ironbeard]

Let's see what tricks they've got planned for LA because they've been nurturing and protecting their dim witted pet in order to cash out on a big money fight with Joshua in the UK, they hope. That's their plan. Who won't be on their payroll this weekend? The ref, the ring doctor, the judges, the tv announcers surely will.

Remember all of Wilder's junk fights, how his handlers and the las vegas mafia's doc margaret drug test crew weaseled him out of the scheduled fight with povetkin; how they trotted out the actor playing a ring doctor to give him extra time in round 8 when ortiz was about to ko him; how Molina deliberately backed off when he had Wilder in trouble; how rather ordinary Szpilka was beating him before he got caught; losing club fighter Conniers putting him on his ass; all his junk record padding fights like the two with Stiverne; Malik Scott taking an obvious dive; and has anybody ever seen the little guy in the costume on that Spanish language tv show that Wilder sucker punched with all his might? How much hush money did Wilder's deep pocket handlers pay him or his surviving relatives, as the case may be?

Did your wife run away with a poster of Wilder?

[Ilya Muromets]

Damn you suck.
Nothing to add to this forum except conspiracy theories.

Did they teach you to say "conspiracy theory" whenever you see something that confuses you?

[Ilya Muromets]

Notice how Wilder's fans don't even try to refute anything i said.

[Onetimeonly]

[Onetimeonly]

Notice how Wilder's fans don't even try to refute anything i said.

You're wilders biggest fan. Nobody else, not even slim, cares about him like you do. That includes all of your accounts.

[jamamb]

had to change the focus a bit on the cover up conspiracy now i guess

[tiny_acres]

had to change the focus a bit on the cover up conspiracy now i guess

Same old same old. Nothing but conspiracy theories. Drives me crazy

[Onetimeonly]

had to change the focus a bit on the cover up conspiracy now i guess

Same old same old. Nothing but conspiracy theories. Drives me crazy

I'd likely want fury to win if it wasn't for the obsessed with deontay boxrec crew.

[tiny_acres]

had to change the focus a bit on the cover up conspiracy now i guess

Same old same old. Nothing but conspiracy theories. Drives me crazy

I'd likely want fury to win if it wasn't for the obsessed with deontay boxrec crew.

I really like them both. So I won't be pissed no matter who wins. I just think Wilder will knock him out

[Ilya Muromets]

In fact i believe the only top ten fighter Wilder ever fought was Ortiz, and his deep pocket handlers had to turn out their whole bag of dirty tricks to get him through that one!

[KiwiRider]

I missed your sleepy emoticon posts

[Onetimeonly]

I missed your sleepy emoticon posts

[Ilya Muromets]

Retards like their hero. They just spam the thread like babies. This place is a waste of time.

[Onetimeonly]

Retards like their hero. They just spam the thread like babies. This place is a waste of time.

And yet you have multiple accounts.

[Ilya Muromets]

Retards like their hero. They just spam the thread like babies. This place is a waste of time.

And yet you have multiple accounts.

Talk about "conspiracy theories"!

[Best Coast]

You are one of the few commenters I've seen anywhere who talks more trash and nonsense than Deontay Wilder!!

[ironbeard]

Retards like their hero. They just spam the thread like babies. This place is a waste of time.

There’s the door. Do I need to show you how to use it?

Go obsess elsewhere.

[Thomastearns]

Let's see what tricks they've got planned for LA because they've been nurturing and protecting their dim witted pet in order to cash out on a big money fight with Joshua in the UK, they hope. That's their plan. Who won't be on their payroll this weekend? The ref, the ring doctor, the judges, the tv announcers surely will.

Remember all of Wilder's junk fights, how his handlers and the las vegas mafia's doc margaret drug test crew weaseled him out of the scheduled fight with povetkin; how they trotted out the actor playing a ring doctor to give him extra time in round 8 when ortiz was about to ko him; how Molina deliberately backed off when he had Wilder in trouble; how rather ordinary Szpilka was beating him before he got caught; losing club fighter Conniers putting him on his ass; all his junk record padding fights like the two with Stiverne; Malik Scott taking an obvious dive; and has anybody ever seen the little guy in the costume on that Spanish language tv show that Wilder sucker punched with all his might? How much hush money did Wilder's deep pocket handlers pay him or his surviving relatives, as the case may be?

Wilder might be the 'A side' here but the Fury camp are certainly no mugs. I'm sure they've had a very close look at who the referee and judges are, the gloves, the ring, the ropes etc.

Quoting the Telegraph, "The referee and judges have been confirmed. The experienced American, Jack Reiss, is the third man in the ring, with judges Phil Edwards, of England, Alejandro Rochin (United States) and Robert Tapper (Canada)."

We shouldn't worry too much about a conspiracy here because Heavyweight boxing is probably the most difficult division to 'fix' in the sport. Besides the Wilder camp are already giving themselves the best chance of making the Joshua fight by insisting on a rematch clause here - they know they won't get it by outboxing Fury. So if things go wrong tomorrow it could be Fury v Wilder 2 next April as the showdown with Joshua looks unlikely to happen before the back end of next year.

Wilder understands he needs the knockout and they're giving him two chances to do it. If the worst happens, at least the second fight should be bigger than the first. Fury understands it's going to be a very long 12 rounds, one slip and it's all over in brutal fashion.

Its worth remembering that Deontay Wilder is not just a one punch KO artist, he's also a devastating finisher too. The best since Tyson, Mike Tyson that is.

[bigman1968]

Let's see what tricks they've got planned for LA because they've been nurturing and protecting their dim witted pet in order to cash out on a big money fight with Joshua in the UK, they hope. That's their plan. Who won't be on their payroll this weekend? The ref, the ring doctor, the judges, the tv announcers surely will.

Remember all of Wilder's junk fights, how his handlers and the las vegas mafia's doc margaret drug test crew weaseled him out of the scheduled fight with povetkin; how they trotted out the actor playing a ring doctor to give him extra time in round 8 when ortiz was about to ko him; how Molina deliberately backed off when he had Wilder in trouble; how rather ordinary Szpilka was beating him before he got caught; losing club fighter Conniers putting him on his ass; all his junk record padding fights like the two with Stiverne; Malik Scott taking an obvious dive; and has anybody ever seen the little guy in the costume on that Spanish language tv show that Wilder sucker punched with all his might? How much hush money did Wilder's deep pocket handlers pay him or his surviving relatives, as the case may be?

Just curious, what top fighter became top without handlers with big pocket???
Pro-boxing is business, before everything...

[Onetimeonly]

Retards like their hero. They just spam the thread like babies. This place is a waste of time.

And yet you have multiple accounts.

Talk about "conspiracy theories"!

Pretty big coincidence to have 3 or 4 individuals with unhealthy obsessions with wilder and haye that are also huge Briggs & spong fans.

[marvelous marv]

Wilder didnt sign with Haymon until right before his 29th fight.

[tiny_acres]

Wilder didnt sign with Haymon until right before his 29th fight.

Stop using facts. It makes too much sense

[Enlightened-One]

Wilder didnt sign with Haymon until right before his 29th fight.

Stop using facts. It makes too much sense

To be pedantic, there are multiple media articles published less than three weeks after Wilder’s 28th bout against Audley Harrison claiming that ‘The Bronze Bomber’ had signed with Al Haymon.

And assuming these reports were true, then Wilder actually signed with Haymon 85 days before his 29th bout against Siarhei Liakhovich, which equates to almost three months.

I also believe that Al Haymon kind of "handled" (with the inverted commas being key here) Wilder’s career beforehand anyway by proxy of his relationship with Richard Schaefer. Of course this is speculation on my part, but we know for certain both men essentially ran Golden Boy whilst Oscar De La Hoya was in rehab in 2011.

We know this to be true based on Oscar De La Hoya’s 2014 lawsuit against Richard Schaefer, which was based on an alleged breach of fiduciary duty to the company, due to how Haymon’s fighters were handled.

The outcome of the settlement of this lawsuit resulted in Golden Boy no longer promoting any Al Haymon fighters. In fact, a lot of fighters that were previously on a fight-by-fight contract with Golden Boy, broke ties with De La Hoya and then immediately signed with Al Haymon.

For those that need reminding, Richard Schaefer was the long-time CEO and co-founder of Golden Boy. He was responsible for the day-to-day running of this successful promotional company since its founding and built it into a powerhouse, at a time when De La Hoya was largely only a figurehead.

So that’s the reason for my unsubstantiated theory about Al Haymon having some sort of strong influence over the handling (in an unofficial capacity) of Deontay Wilder’s career before ‘The Bronze Bomber’ officially signed with the PBC boss on the 16th May, 2013 (with my hypothesis based solely on Richard Schaefer running Golden Boy, without De La Hoya's input, whilst also having a very close working relationship with Haymon).