Jeff Horn vs. Anthony Mundine - November 30, 2018

Who wins?

Poll ended at 30 Nov 2018, 12:10

Horn - Decision
9
47%
Horn - K/TKO
8
42%
DRAW
0
No votes
Mundine - K/TKO
1
5%
Mundine - Decision
1
5%
 
Total votes: 19

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Re: Jeff Horn vs. Anthony Mundine - November 30, 2018

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Jeff Horn Will Be Looking For Big Fights at 147, 154 and Even 160

Jeff Horn is now the undisputed main attraction of Australian boxing after comprehensively ending the era of Anthony Mundine.

The 96-second victory puts Horn's career back on track towards future world title bouts.

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Post-fight, Mundine anointed Horn as the man to lead the sport going forward.

"There's some pressure with that because Mundine had that wrapped around his finger and he's done like an amazing job picking up boxing in Australia," Horn told AAP.

"He's an unheard of type of athlete ... it's a little bit daunting in a way knowing that that's on my shoulders now."

Horn's trainer Glenn Rushton and promoter Dean Lonergan are already thinking big for the 30-year-old.

Rushton says Horn's display at the 71kg [156.5-pounds] catchweight against Mundine opens up several possible future paths for his charge.

"We'll be looking at all opportunities in three weight divisions really," Rushton said.

"I see that Jeff can fight at welterweight, I know he can make welter, he fought all his amateur career at 64 (kgs).

"He showed tonight he can easily adapt to either super-welter or light-middle as it's known or even middleweight.
"You've got to go where the big fights are, we want the big fights, there's no point fighting the easy fights."


Horn's camp has already flagged an intention to try and lure Terence Crawford to Australia for a rematch after the American inflicted Horn's only professional defeat in Las Vegas in June.

Potential bouts against middleweight champion Canelo Alvarez or two-time welterweight world champion Shawn Porter are also options interesting Rushton and Lonergan.

Above all, Rushton wants to use Horn's Australian drawcard status to bring big fights here and not force his man to head overseas.

"Stuff Vegas. Stuff America. Let's bring the big fights here," Rushton said.

"I want to see Jeff Horn bring these big fights to Australia."
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Re: Jeff Horn vs. Anthony Mundine - November 30, 2018

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There are some good fights to be made for him at 154. Liam Smith vs Jeff Horn would be a matchup i'd like to see.
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Re: Jeff Horn vs. Anthony Mundine - November 30, 2018

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Watching the video leads the viewer to believe that Mundane either has developed a glass jaw or was faking it. The "knockout" punch doesnt even appear to land solid:

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Best Coast wrote: 30 Nov 2018, 18:22 Watching the video leads the viewer to believe that Mundane either has developed a glass jaw or was faking it. The "knockout" punch doesnt even appear to land solid:

He was definately clipped with a left before the KD, but the final punch looked like a touch.
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Ruthless-RKO wrote: 30 Nov 2018, 18:29
Best Coast wrote: 30 Nov 2018, 18:22 Watching the video leads the viewer to believe that Mundane either has developed a glass jaw or was faking it. The "knockout" punch doesnt even appear to land solid:

He was definately clipped with a left before the KD, but the final punch looked like a touch.
In the slow motion part of the video the two punches right before the left hook to the head were both to the body and NEITHER of those seemed to land to a vulnerable area.

Sorry amigo but I dont see any of them it as a legit KO punch.
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Re: Jeff Horn vs. Anthony Mundine - November 30, 2018

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Best Coast wrote: 30 Nov 2018, 18:40
Ruthless-RKO wrote: 30 Nov 2018, 18:29
Best Coast wrote: 30 Nov 2018, 18:22 Watching the video leads the viewer to believe that Mundane either has developed a glass jaw or was faking it. The "knockout" punch doesnt even appear to land solid:

He was definately clipped with a left before the KD, but the final punch looked like a touch.
In the slow motion part of the video the two punches right before the left hook to the head were both to the body and NEITHER of those seemed to land to a vulnerable area.

Sorry amigo but I dont see any of them it as a legit KO punch.
I do think it was a soft KO.
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Re: Jeff Horn vs. Anthony Mundine - November 30, 2018

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when you saw the slowmo on tv from behind you could see the way his neck moved that he got hit good on the chin. it kinda looked like he just tapped gloves from other angles, im pretty sure it landed nice.
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Re: Jeff Horn vs. Anthony Mundine - November 30, 2018

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I cannot see the punch land well from the front angle, but from the rear view, Mundine's head clearly snaps back. I think he was legitimately hurt, and maybe his ability to take a punch has diminished significantly. It's definitely time to end his fighting career, if he can no longer take a punch. He did not look confident the moment the fight started, either.
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Re: Jeff Horn vs. Anthony Mundine - November 30, 2018

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I paid $5 for a month of ESPN+ to watch this. Not exactly the best entertainment hour/dollar proposition!

I'd love to see Horn follow this up with a fight against one of the PBC WWs like Porter or Garcia. But of course that will never happen.
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jujigatame wrote: 30 Nov 2018, 21:07 I paid $5 for a month of ESPN+ to watch this. Not exactly the best entertainment hour/dollar proposition!

I'd love to see Horn follow this up with a fight against one of the PBC WWs like Porter or Garcia. But of course that will never happen.
He said he’d fight at 147, 154 or 160..

He’s a big WW anyway but can make the weight.

Also, his trainer said fûck Vegas and fûck USA.. Horn should be attracting boxers to come to Aus.

He already wants a rematch against Crawford but wants it in Aus. Don’t know what difference it will make, he was annihilated and stopped by Bud.
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Ruthless-RKO wrote: 30 Nov 2018, 21:11
jujigatame wrote: 30 Nov 2018, 21:07 I paid $5 for a month of ESPN+ to watch this. Not exactly the best entertainment hour/dollar proposition!

I'd love to see Horn follow this up with a fight against one of the PBC WWs like Porter or Garcia. But of course that will never happen.
He said he’d fight at 147, 154 or 160..

He’s a big WW anyway but can make the weight.

Also, his trainer said fûck Vegas and fûck USA.. Horn should be attracting boxers to come to Aus.

He already wants a rematch against Crawford but wants it in Aus. Don’t know what difference it will make, he was annihilated and stopped by Bud.
Unfortunately that is denial and delusion. Crawford was and is just a level or two or three above him.
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Re: Jeff Horn vs. Anthony Mundine - November 30, 2018

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gregregegg wrote: 30 Nov 2018, 20:30 when you saw the slowmo on tv from behind you could see the way his neck moved that he got hit good on the chin. it kinda looked like he just tapped gloves from other angles, im pretty sure it landed nice.
To be honest and accurate, Mundine's head moved back just as much from the left to the body as it did from the left to the head that immediately followed. That is very obvious from both the side view and the rear view. From the side view the left hook to the head looked like it did not land squarely or make solid impact. Feel free to watch it a dozen or more times as I did.

If you look closely at the first side view, the final left hook (aimed at the head) did not land because Mundine was already falling. That is not apparent in the rear view OR the second side view (which was taken from farther away than the first side view).
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Re: Jeff Horn vs. Anthony Mundine - November 30, 2018

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Jeff has the size to compete as a middleweight but this fight proves nothing.
I want to see him in with at least a top 20 middleweight
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Re: Jeff Horn vs. Anthony Mundine - November 30, 2018

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remember mundines had his chin cracked loads, is 43, and was cutting loads of weight

honestly i think that may very well may have been legit...a chinny shot old guy can go down like that from very little

plus even when young he got knocked cold by ottke :lol:
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Re: Jeff Horn vs. Anthony Mundine - November 30, 2018

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It was a dive.
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Re: Jeff Horn vs. Anthony Mundine - November 30, 2018

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Horn did what he was supposed to do, if this version of Mundine had been competitive in defeat it would have caused some difficulty getting the kind of fights Horn wants in the future.

A rematch with Crawford just isn't going to happen, Horn needs to get over that.

If he feels better at junior middle then he should stay in that division, plenty of solid fights there.
Also if he wants in line to fight Canelo going back to 147 is the wrong direction.
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Re: Jeff Horn vs. Anthony Mundine - November 30, 2018

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Perseus wrote: 30 Nov 2018, 22:41 Horn did what he was supposed to do, if this version of Mundine had been competitive in defeat it would have caused some difficulty getting the kind of fights Horn wants in the future.

A rematch with Crawford just isn't going to happen, Horn needs to get over that.

If he feels better at junior middle then he should stay in that division, plenty of solid fights there.
Also if he wants in line to fight Canelo going back to 147 is the wrong direction.
:shame: Mundine “did what he was supposed to do.” :OhYes:
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Ruthless-RKO wrote: 30 Nov 2018, 21:11He already wants a rematch against Crawford but wants it in Aus. Don’t know what difference it will make, he was annihilated and stopped by Bud.
What a turd. I think I'll go watch highlights of Crawford beating him senseless again.
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tiny_acres wrote: 30 Nov 2018, 22:05 Jeff has the size to compete as a middleweight but this fight proves nothing.
I want to see him in with at least a top 20 middleweight
Imo this fight proves nothing no matter which division Horn wants to compete at. Whether Mundine is just washed up at 43 (who has now lost 3 of his last 4) or whether he was acting it remains a very questionable win for Horn. His rep was already built on a very questionable decision over Pacquiao. So for his management to say "screw Vegas/screw the USA" and "let them come to Australia" is an empty boast. Horn is STILL not a world-class fighter and he's dreaming if he thinks Porter or another champ will come to Oz just to risk getting screwed by the judges.

Sorry Jeff...you'll need a legit world-class win before you can call the shots like that. (Like Kell Brook had when he beat Porter for the title.)
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Re: Jeff Horn vs. Anthony Mundine - November 30, 2018

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Best Coast wrote: 30 Nov 2018, 23:29
tiny_acres wrote: 30 Nov 2018, 22:05 Jeff has the size to compete as a middleweight but this fight proves nothing.
I want to see him in with at least a top 20 middleweight
Imo this fight proves nothing no matter which division Horn wants to compete at. Whether Mundine is just washed up at 43 (who has now lost 3 of his last 4) or whether he was acting it remains a very questionable win for Horn. His rep was already built on a very questionable decision over Pacquiao. So for his management to say "screw Vegas/screw the USA" and "let them come to Australia" is an empty boast. Horn is STILL not a world-class fighter and he's dreaming if he thinks Porter or another champ will come to Oz just to risk getting screwed by the judges.

Sorry Jeff...you'll need a legit world-class win before you can call the shots like that. (Like Kell Brook had when he beat Porter for the title.)
Jeff has an over inflated self worth
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Re: Jeff Horn vs. Anthony Mundine - November 30, 2018

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It looked like both decent punch and unwillingness to continue. A decent, but not really damaging punch. I tried to look closer on the replays, yet not all of them have an appropriate angle, but from a one of them it could be seen, that the last punch landed clean somewhere on the nose, on the center of the face. Not an often area to knock people out cold. And Mundine wasn't out. He probably was stunned pretty good indeed and could have stoop up, but decided not to do it. The ref acted good enough for him and didn't counted full.
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Re: Jeff Horn vs. Anthony Mundine - November 30, 2018

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Having watched thousands of fights and KO punches, the blow that put him down was definitely not normal KO blow. So that means that at 42 Mundine has either zero punch resistance or no will to fight. He certainly never belongs in a ring again. He was good for Australian boxing, he certainly put a lot of bums on seats and he certainly did something unique winning titles at 169, 160 and 154 i.e in reverse order, but he has zero credibility now.

This fight is absolutely no guide as to whether Horn is a force at 154, The KO was totally undeserved.
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Re: Jeff Horn vs. Anthony Mundine - November 30, 2018

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gregregegg wrote: 30 Nov 2018, 20:30 when you saw the slowmo on tv from behind you could see the way his neck moved that he got hit good on the chin. it kinda looked like he just tapped gloves from other angles, im pretty sure it landed nice.
There's no doubt Choc's jaw is weak, but there's also no doubt he was hit flush. As you say, watch his neck, also the way his head hit the canvas and his eye show he is not in a good. Choc is a proud man and i dont believe for one minute that he has taken the easy way out.
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gregregegg wrote: 30 Nov 2018, 20:30 when you saw the slowmo on tv from behind you could see the way his neck moved that he got hit good on the chin. it kinda looked like he just tapped gloves from other angles, im pretty sure it landed nice.
There's no doubt Choc's jaw is weak, but there's also no doubt he was hit flush. As you say, watch his neck, also the way his head hit the canvas and his eye show he is not in a good. Choc is a proud man and i dont believe for one minute that he has taken the easy way out.
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Re: Jeff Horn vs. Anthony Mundine - November 30, 2018

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amwsnw wrote: 01 Dec 2018, 05:26
gregregegg wrote: 30 Nov 2018, 20:30 when you saw the slowmo on tv from behind you could see the way his neck moved that he got hit good on the chin. it kinda looked like he just tapped gloves from other angles, im pretty sure it landed nice.
There's no doubt Choc's jaw is weak, but there's also no doubt he was hit flush. As you say, watch his neck, also the way his head hit the canvas and his eye show he is not in a good. Choc is a proud man and i dont believe for one minute that he has taken the easy way out.
Keep repeating it until the end of time and it won’t change the fact that it was a dive, pure and simple.

It was a dreadful, pointless match from the beginning in terms of boxing, but the bar is pretty low for Horn worshippers.

Nice payday, and now he can lure more hapless bastards to Suncorp for a preordained sh!t decision, if it gets to the cards. Maybe they should lure Ishe Smith down for a dive (or else). :OhYes:
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