I've seen Fury gas a few times. In this fight, if he can control the pace, there is no reason why he would. If Wilder really pushes the fight, I think Fury will struggle to keep up.
Deontay Wilder vs. Tyson Fury - 1 December 2018
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Re: Deontay Wilder vs. Tyson Fury - 1 December 2018
Re: Deontay Wilder vs. Tyson Fury - 1 December 2018
From memory - correct if wrong but Fruryblooked tired against McDermott and was completely knackered in the Chisora (1st) fight (was out of shape I think)keithmoonhangover wrote: ↑01 Dec 2018, 12:41I've seen Fury gas a few times. In this fight, if he can control the pace, there is no reason why he would. If Wilder really pushes the fight, I think Fury will struggle to keep up.
What about Wilder over 12 rounds? I’ve not seen enough of him, will he gas and get sloppy in the last 3-4 rounds?
Re: Deontay Wilder vs. Tyson Fury - 1 December 2018
dont recall hm beng very tred vs del...del was the gassed one and fury beat on hm pretty hard and constant.
vs mcdermott for the rematch at 270+ ('whose the mcmuffn now' lol) he had a spell where he had the body language of an exhausted man....yet tbh he still went on boxng wth not bad energy and stopped mcderm not too long after
from past fghts furys stamna seems totally fne to me...but could be a dfferent game now. also wlder has good stamna hmself so may outlast fury even should fury be condtoned
vs mcdermott for the rematch at 270+ ('whose the mcmuffn now' lol) he had a spell where he had the body language of an exhausted man....yet tbh he still went on boxng wth not bad energy and stopped mcderm not too long after
from past fghts furys stamna seems totally fne to me...but could be a dfferent game now. also wlder has good stamna hmself so may outlast fury even should fury be condtoned
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Re: Deontay Wilder vs. Tyson Fury - 1 December 2018
Not likely, wilder probably has the best stamina in the division.
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Re: Deontay Wilder vs. Tyson Fury - 1 December 2018
Not only does he have great stamina. His punch power carries to the later roundsOnetimeonly wrote: ↑01 Dec 2018, 13:12 Not likely, wilder probably has the best stamina in the division.
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Re: Deontay Wilder vs. Tyson Fury - 1 December 2018
I'm sticking with Wilder. I think Fury has been out of shape for too long, not just physically, but with all the other nonsense as well.
I can't see him scoring a knock out boxing on the back foot, not unless he puts on a masterclass and wears Wilder down. Which is something I would have favoured him doing a couple of years ago. Wilder swings them in, and he hits very hard. At some point he is going to land one, and then we'll see.
If I recall Tyson did tire in his fight against Wlad. Very late on. he got ragged.
Wilder is an outstanding athlete, he can create some angles that Wlad couldn't. Fury is going to have to be on his absolute A game and I am not convinced it is there still.
Hope I am wrong, I like Tyson, and want him to win so we get that mega British clash, because that would be something else.
I can't see him scoring a knock out boxing on the back foot, not unless he puts on a masterclass and wears Wilder down. Which is something I would have favoured him doing a couple of years ago. Wilder swings them in, and he hits very hard. At some point he is going to land one, and then we'll see.
If I recall Tyson did tire in his fight against Wlad. Very late on. he got ragged.
Wilder is an outstanding athlete, he can create some angles that Wlad couldn't. Fury is going to have to be on his absolute A game and I am not convinced it is there still.
Hope I am wrong, I like Tyson, and want him to win so we get that mega British clash, because that would be something else.
Re: Deontay Wilder vs. Tyson Fury - 1 December 2018
No one gave Fury a chance when he fought Wladimir Klitschko in Germany in 2015. Since 2015 who has Deontay Wilder fought that was dangerous and there to fight? He has a great record of 40-0 but how many of those opponents are regarded as 'world class' or dangerous.
Fury 27-0 has a similar record in terms or world class opponents with only 1 standing out. That 1 world class opponent was getting on a bit and Fury beat him over points in what was not a very exciting encounter.
Whats gives Wilder the edge over Fury? I don't really see anything in his record that Fury should be wary of. Yes a great knockout ration but im sure Fury could have done as good with those 40 opponents too.
The only 'edge' Wilder has is that he has been more active over the last 3 or 4 years where as Fury has had 2 warm up fights tha tproved nothing and showed nothing from Fury. He beat Francesco Pianeta on points over 10 rounds last time out in a borefest but that is the kind of fight Fury seems to like. He gets results and that was proven in his world title affair from being cautious, keeping out of the way and holding as and when he can.
People are dismissing Fury because of his last few years in and out of the news. He has shed a whole lot of weight and got back in the ring when many folk thought his days were done.
This fight isnt going to be a all time classic slugfest, its not going to be an all action all hitting affair and the toughest chin will be the last one standing. No its going to be a repeat of his last fight and similar to Klitschko, I dare say there will be booing in the crowd and the ref intervening asking for more action. I doubt we will see any knock downs and any sort of stylish finish.
Fury will win on points possibly a split decision 2 or 3 points more than Wilder, 1 judge may go the other way by a round or 2.
It should leave an all British encounter next April at Wembley when Anthony Joshua will really show you how to knock someone out.
Fury 27-0 has a similar record in terms or world class opponents with only 1 standing out. That 1 world class opponent was getting on a bit and Fury beat him over points in what was not a very exciting encounter.
Whats gives Wilder the edge over Fury? I don't really see anything in his record that Fury should be wary of. Yes a great knockout ration but im sure Fury could have done as good with those 40 opponents too.
The only 'edge' Wilder has is that he has been more active over the last 3 or 4 years where as Fury has had 2 warm up fights tha tproved nothing and showed nothing from Fury. He beat Francesco Pianeta on points over 10 rounds last time out in a borefest but that is the kind of fight Fury seems to like. He gets results and that was proven in his world title affair from being cautious, keeping out of the way and holding as and when he can.
People are dismissing Fury because of his last few years in and out of the news. He has shed a whole lot of weight and got back in the ring when many folk thought his days were done.
This fight isnt going to be a all time classic slugfest, its not going to be an all action all hitting affair and the toughest chin will be the last one standing. No its going to be a repeat of his last fight and similar to Klitschko, I dare say there will be booing in the crowd and the ref intervening asking for more action. I doubt we will see any knock downs and any sort of stylish finish.
Fury will win on points possibly a split decision 2 or 3 points more than Wilder, 1 judge may go the other way by a round or 2.
It should leave an all British encounter next April at Wembley when Anthony Joshua will really show you how to knock someone out.
Re: Deontay Wilder vs. Tyson Fury - 1 December 2018
wlder most certainly has a massive power edge. and faster hands. wlder may have chn and stamina on fury too. and hes certanly not givng up heart.
fury has more nuance to his boxing and may move a bit smoother laterally. but what else?...hes givng up very big raw talent edge and hes gonna get caught eventually even if he starts well. hes no master defender or chuvalo chin. to me theres just not enough room for error for me to see fury going all the way and winning.
fury has more nuance to his boxing and may move a bit smoother laterally. but what else?...hes givng up very big raw talent edge and hes gonna get caught eventually even if he starts well. hes no master defender or chuvalo chin. to me theres just not enough room for error for me to see fury going all the way and winning.
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Re: Deontay Wilder vs. Tyson Fury - 1 December 2018
Ahh!! We finally have 2 vote for Wilder on points.
I think there was a poster on here who said it was his choice but didn’t want to be the odd one out
I think there was a poster on here who said it was his choice but didn’t want to be the odd one out
Re: Deontay Wilder vs. Tyson Fury - 1 December 2018
To be fair, 124 of the 800 posts are yoursRuthless-RKO wrote: ↑01 Dec 2018, 09:44 Bloody hell.. Nearly 800 posts and 30+ pages.. Going back to when this was announced in mid-August..
And 89 are Jammy's
Re: Deontay Wilder vs. Tyson Fury - 1 December 2018
Yes, and yes!tiny_acres wrote: ↑01 Dec 2018, 13:15Not only does he have great stamina. His punch power carries to the later roundsOnetimeonly wrote: ↑01 Dec 2018, 13:12 Not likely, wilder probably has the best stamina in the division.
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Re: Deontay Wilder vs. Tyson Fury - 1 December 2018
And another 76 are just copied from TwitterKiwiRider wrote: ↑01 Dec 2018, 13:51To be fair, 124 of the 800 posts are yoursRuthless-RKO wrote: ↑01 Dec 2018, 09:44 Bloody hell.. Nearly 800 posts and 30+ pages.. Going back to when this was announced in mid-August..![]()
And 89 are Jammy's
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Re: Deontay Wilder vs. Tyson Fury - 1 December 2018
i see a distance fight.
it's all about how effective fury can be fighting on the move.
that's where i have reservations on fury winning.
will the judges favour his flicking/sticking and occassional bullshit.
or will they go for the heavier singles & doubles from wilder.
DRAW.
it's all about how effective fury can be fighting on the move.
that's where i have reservations on fury winning.
will the judges favour his flicking/sticking and occassional bullshit.
or will they go for the heavier singles & doubles from wilder.
DRAW.
Re: Deontay Wilder vs. Tyson Fury - 1 December 2018
Wilders not gonna have a clue how to assert himself imo
Re: Deontay Wilder vs. Tyson Fury - 1 December 2018
LOL! Wilder in 5-6.hitman_hatton1 wrote: ↑01 Dec 2018, 14:02 i see a distance fight.
it's all about how effective fury can be fighting on the move.
that's where i have reservations on fury winning.
will the judges favour his flicking/sticking and occassional bullshit.![]()
or will they go for the heavier singles & doubles from wilder.![]()
DRAW.![]()
Re: Deontay Wilder vs. Tyson Fury - 1 December 2018
I backed fury heavy against klitschko. Think wilder beats him though, different animal.
Re: Deontay Wilder vs. Tyson Fury - 1 December 2018
A younger, fitter Ortiz would’ve taken Wilder out when he was wobbled. Wilder relies on landing big, heavy shots but is reckless when he tries. If Fury jabs well, he wins.
But, I’m seeing a late controversial stoppage for Wilder.
But, I’m seeing a late controversial stoppage for Wilder.
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Re: Deontay Wilder vs. Tyson Fury - 1 December 2018
My best mate is a consultant surgeon. He says the 10 stone loss will definitely have had a negative effect on Tyson's body.
Re: Deontay Wilder vs. Tyson Fury - 1 December 2018
I believe that. That sort of weight loss (both speed and amount) sounds very unhealthy! I hope it's not a factor and we don't see Wilder haters using that as an excuse after he KTFO Fury.keithmoonhangover wrote: ↑01 Dec 2018, 15:32 My best mate is a consultant surgeon. He says the 10 stone loss will definitely have had a negative effect on Tyson's body.
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Re: Deontay Wilder vs. Tyson Fury - 1 December 2018
All relevant to the thread/fight.Boxerbeetle wrote: ↑01 Dec 2018, 13:54And another 76 are just copied from TwitterKiwiRider wrote: ↑01 Dec 2018, 13:51To be fair, 124 of the 800 posts are yoursRuthless-RKO wrote: ↑01 Dec 2018, 09:44 Bloody hell.. Nearly 800 posts and 30+ pages.. Going back to when this was announced in mid-August..![]()
And 89 are Jammy's![]()
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Re: Deontay Wilder vs. Tyson Fury - 1 December 2018
We’re just teasing mateRuthless-RKO wrote: ↑01 Dec 2018, 15:36All relevant to the thread/fight.
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Re: Deontay Wilder vs. Tyson Fury - 1 December 2018
I do agree. I use my mobile. The more tweets, the slower they take to load.Boxerbeetle wrote: ↑01 Dec 2018, 15:47We’re just teasing mateAlthough I would personally prefer if Twitter posts were kept to a minimum where possible, they slow down performance on a mobile something terrible.
Re: Deontay Wilder vs. Tyson Fury - 1 December 2018
Aw totally mateRuthless-RKO wrote: ↑01 Dec 2018, 15:36All relevant to the thread/fight.
Just pulling yer pud.
I don't have The Twitter, so I don't mind that stuff posted either. It all adds to it. I'm on mobile too.
Keep up the good work!
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Re: Deontay Wilder vs. Tyson Fury - 1 December 2018
Is it recordable on sky q or virgin media?
