What are your Wilder vs Fury weight predictions?

[punchoutsb]

Anyone who doesn’t think Wilder could make cruiser safely and comfortably doesn’t know how cutting weight works.

But why would he want to? Its a completely pointless discussion

Some people think guys who cut weight to make 200 are too small to be successful heavyweights. They’re not.

[punchoutsb]

Anyone who doesn’t think Wilder could make cruiser safely and comfortably doesn’t know how cutting weight works.

But why would he want to? Its a completely pointless discussion

You should be thanking him for NOT starting another thread about it.

Have I started a thread about this before?

[tiny_acres]

Anyone who doesn’t think Wilder could make cruiser safely and comfortably doesn’t know how cutting weight works.

But why would he want to? Its a completely pointless discussion

Some people think guys who cut weight to make 200 are too small to be successful heavyweights. They’re not.

I wonder if Wilder wins if this will help sway the opinion that a good small man can beat a good big man?
probably not because Wilder gets zero credit

[ewenhay]

Anyone who doesn’t think Wilder could make cruiser safely and comfortably doesn’t know how cutting weight works.

But why would he want to? Its a completely pointless discussion

Some people think guys who cut weight to make 200 are too small to be successful heavyweights. They’re not.

Yeah but he's in good shape, he's always in good shape, so he doesn't need to be 200lbs.

And there's no need to fight at cruiser when you're wbc heavyweight champion.

So it's all a bit pointless.

[gilgamesh]

Considering that Wilder's best bet here is the speed and quickness with which he can catch Fury coming in lighter is probably a good thing for him.

[ewenhay]

But why would he want to? Its a completely pointless discussion

Some people think guys who cut weight to make 200 are too small to be successful heavyweights. They’re not.

I wonder if Wilder wins if this will help sway the opinion that a good small man can beat a good big man?
probably not because Wilder gets zero credit

It's a good win for either guy so whoever wins deserves the credit.

[gilgamesh]

But why would he want to? Its a completely pointless discussion

Some people think guys who cut weight to make 200 are too small to be successful heavyweights. They’re not.

Yeah but he's in good shape, he's always in good shape, so he doesn't need to be 200lbs.

And there's no need to fight at cruiser when you're wbc heavyweight champion.

So it's all a bit pointless.

Yep a fighter would never make even half of what he's gonna make for this fight as a Cruiserweight.

[gilgamesh]

But why would he want to? Its a completely pointless discussion

Some people think guys who cut weight to make 200 are too small to be successful heavyweights. They’re not.

I wonder if Wilder wins if this will help sway the opinion that a good small man can beat a good big man?
probably not because Wilder gets zero credit

There's already a century of evidence out there that a good small man can beat a good big man.

[tiny_acres]

Some people think guys who cut weight to make 200 are too small to be successful heavyweights. They’re not.

I wonder if Wilder wins if this will help sway the opinion that a good small man can beat a good big man?
probably not because Wilder gets zero credit

There's already a century of evidence out there that a good small man can beat a good big man.

I agree with you. But you know as well as I do we keep seeing people state that todays heavyweights are to big and strong for 220 pound heavyweights to compete. People even calling for another weight class because they say its not fair

[Enlightened-One]

But why would he want to? Its a completely pointless discussion

Some people think guys who cut weight to make 200 are too small to be successful heavyweights. They’re not.

I wonder if Wilder wins if this will help sway the opinion that a good small man can beat a good big man?
probably not because Wilder gets zero credit

I think that everybody, including myself, believes that a small man CAN beat a big man, but let’s not pretend that size doesn’t matter and that physically bigger men don’t have an advantage over their smaller counterparts.

I’m not suggesting you think this way, but others have admitted to.

[punchoutsb]

But why would he want to? Its a completely pointless discussion

Some people think guys who cut weight to make 200 are too small to be successful heavyweights. They’re not.

Yeah but he's in good shape, he's always in good shape, so he doesn't need to be 200lbs.

And there's no need to fight at cruiser when you're wbc heavyweight champion.

So it's all a bit pointless.

Nobody said he needs to fight at Cruiser. I'm using Wilder as a current example for those uninformed that think you've got to weigh over 240 to be a successful HW.

[KiwiRider]

Anyone who doesn’t think Wilder could make cruiser safely and comfortably doesn’t know how cutting weight works.

But why would he want to? Its a completely pointless discussion

Deontay Wilder previously stated that he'd consider making the move down to cruiserweight after facing AJ. People said his ability to fulfil this claim was categorically impossible, despite the American weighing 220lbs or less for 63% of his bouts.

I read all sorts of ludicrous excuses as to their reasons why Wilder was physically incapable of making 200lbs, but there’s so much evidence to support Deontay’s claims that it actually seems moronic to even claim otherwise. The numbers simply don’t lie!

Does anybody sincerely believe that a fully hydrated version of Deontay Wilder that weighs 212½lbs cannot make 200lbs with consummate ease?

Piece of piss mate
My morning constipootional is usually around that number without having to dehydrate.

[ewenhay]

Some people think guys who cut weight to make 200 are too small to be successful heavyweights. They’re not.

Yeah but he's in good shape, he's always in good shape, so he doesn't need to be 200lbs.

And there's no need to fight at cruiser when you're wbc heavyweight champion.

So it's all a bit pointless.

Nobody said he needs to fight at Cruiser. I'm using Wilder as a current example for those uninformed that think you've got to weigh over 240 to be a successful HW.

Yeah I know.

It wasn't you I was replying to in the first instance. It was to someone saying Wilder could make cruiserweight no problem.

For what it's worth I agree with you. Of course the lighter guy can win at heavyweight, especially if he's fast and hits hard.

[ironbeard]

Some people think guys who cut weight to make 200 are too small to be successful heavyweights. They’re not.

Yeah but he's in good shape, he's always in good shape, so he doesn't need to be 200lbs.

And there's no need to fight at cruiser when you're wbc heavyweight champion.

So it's all a bit pointless.

Yep a fighter would never make even half of what he's gonna make for this fight as a Cruiserweight.

Cue the “he’s moving down to cruiser to avoid Usyk” threads.

[punchoutsb]

Yeah but he's in good shape, he's always in good shape, so he doesn't need to be 200lbs.

And there's no need to fight at cruiser when you're wbc heavyweight champion.

So it's all a bit pointless.

Nobody said he needs to fight at Cruiser. I'm using Wilder as a current example for those uninformed that think you've got to weigh over 240 to be a successful HW.

Yeah I know.

It wasn't you I was replying to in the first instance. It was to someone saying Wilder could make cruiserweight no problem.

For what it's worth I agree with you. Of course the lighter guy can win at heavyweight, especially if he's fast and hits hard.

[Thomastearns]

Whether he COULD make 200 or not, 212.5 for this fight seems too light for me.

I do agree I think closer 220-225 would of been his goal.
Breland probably has a reason for this

Absolutely, and it's got to be speed. Despite his size, Fury is not the easiest boxer to tag, and Wilder will lose if he can't land.

Wlad, and everyone else mostly got beaten to the punch against Fury or caught by quick counters. That's no good to Deontay Wilder, he needs the fastest hands he has.

As they say, its the ones you don't see...

[punchoutsb]

No comment on Fury coming in at 256?
I thought people were predicting he would come in lighter or at least the same weight he was for Wlad

I didn't post in this thread, but I thought he'd be 260+ so I'm happy.

[gilgamesh]

Whether he COULD make 200 or not, 212.5 for this fight seems too light for me.

I do agree I think closer 220-225 would of been his goal.
Breland probably has a reason for this

Absolutely, and it's got to be speed. Despite his size, Fury is not the easiest boxer to tag, and Wilder will lose if he can't land.

Wlad, and everyone else mostly got beaten to the punch against Fury or caught by quick counters. That's no good to Deontay Wilder, he needs the fastest hands he has.

As they say, its the ones you don't see...

Wlad got beat because he didn't fight.

[Thomastearns]

I do agree I think closer 220-225 would of been his goal.
Breland probably has a reason for this

Absolutely, and it's got to be speed. Despite his size, Fury is not the easiest boxer to tag, and Wilder will lose if he can't land.

Wlad, and everyone else mostly got beaten to the punch against Fury or caught by quick counters. That's no good to Deontay Wilder, he needs the fastest hands he has.

As they say, its the ones you don't see...

Wlad got beat because he didn't fight.

Didn't or couldn't?

[gilgamesh]

Absolutely, and it's got to be speed. Despite his size, Fury is not the easiest boxer to tag, and Wilder will lose if he can't land.

Wlad, and everyone else mostly got beaten to the punch against Fury or caught by quick counters. That's no good to Deontay Wilder, he needs the fastest hands he has.

As they say, its the ones you don't see...

Wlad got beat because he didn't fight.

Didn't or couldn't?

Didn't

[HomicideHenry]

Fury to win by stoppage around the 10th. Wilder will try to start out fired up straight out of the gate, get embarrassed, and resort to trying to box Tyson but will find he can't do that well enough, and then go for broke but will be too reckless and Fury lowers the boom.

Wilder coming in 3 pounds heavier than his pro debut--- is evident of a man who has overtrained out of fear or no real faith in himself. Wilder's actions at the last press conference being logically incoherent and frantic--- is evident of a man who is emotionally and mentally burnt out.

He'll be dangerous, yes, but I think he'll play it both too rough and too cautious at different times in the fight which will only further increase those things.

[DrDuke]

Fury looked lighter on some preparation photos, but still he's in a good weight for him. There's no extra-weight, that could have hindered Tyson's movement. Yet this weight-advantage can serve well for Tyson inside. The Gypsy King will bewilder Wilder from any range.

[Bard of Boxrec]

Wilder by straightforward stoppage inside 6.

[evrenb]

Deontay Wilder's average weight, whenever he's competed against a top-ten The Ring rated opponent, is only 216lbs.

The American’s average weight for his last two bouts is only 213lbs.

It’s clear that ‘The Bronze Bomber’ can make 200lbs easily.

A lot of people mocked my claim, despite Deontay Wilder previously stating that he'd consider making the move down to cruiserweight.

So I find it really ridiculous for people to have argued against this point, whilst falsely citing that Wilder only previously weighed light due to “illness”. What a pile of fµck¡ng bȕllsh¡t! Those stupid fµckȅrs that said such things are as dumb as fȕck!

Come on people, let’s hear those excuses! I want to see someone attempt to engage in this debate with me once again, despite the overwhelming amount of compelling evidence to support my stance! So bring it on – I dare you to do your worst!

Why would he want to make 200lbs? It's completely pointless. He's wbc heavyweight champion.

Sense! Thank you

[marvelous marv]

True 50/50 fight in my opinion

I could see Fury getting into a rhythm and boxing to a large points win.

Can also see Fury so aware of the right hand that he walks himself into a fight ending left hook. Wilder has unusual power in both hands. That's what makes him so difficult.

That Hanks Joyce fight is very interesting to me. I think Joyce might be jumping up too fast in competition. Hope he proves me wrong.