Another UNBELIEVABLY WRONG punch stats by CombuBox

[dagilechia]

Wilder - Fury (landed/thrown):

71/430 - 84/327 - so, according to this Wilder threw 103 punches MORE and Fury landed ONLY 13 punches more.

jabs: 40/248 - 46/223 - according to this, Fury threw 25 jabs LESS and landed ONLY 6 jabs more.

power punches: 31/182 - 38/104 - according to this, Wilder statistically threw like 6-7 power punches MORE EVERY ROUND than Fury.

What a joke.

[ironbeard]

Wilder - Fury (landed/thrown):

71/430 - 84/327 - so, according to this Wilder threw 103 punches MORE and Fury landed ONLY 13 punches more.

jabs: 40/248 - 46/223 - according to this, Fury threw 25 jabs LESS and landed ONLY 6 jabs more.

power punches: 31/182 - 38/104 - according to this, Wilder statistically threw like 6-7 power punches MORE EVERY ROUND than Fury.

What a joke.

I do not ever look at compubox stats. I do not need to. Wilder out threw, out landed, out boxed, did more damage, won more rounds, and he deserved that decision.

Fury landed nearly nothing for the first 6 rounds, then got knocked down twice in the second half.

Anyone who was blinded by the feints, the tongue wagging, and the commentary needs to go back and recognize reality. Fury did virtually zero damage. He land precious little of ANY substance. He did not throw enough to win any rounds.

It is literally as if Fury was scored every round that he was not knocked down.; as if that was the criteria for scoring.

Some people have admitted, on here, that they scored rounds for Fury because he made Wilder miss, completely ignoring the fact that he threw nearly nothing of any note for the entire first half of the fight.

Wilder not only made Fury miss, he intimidated him from throwing. Then when Fury started actually competing, he got knocked on his ass twice.

There might be one clear Fury round in that fight. The rest were shaded to him because he survived them and he was the superior . . .

[dagilechia]

Wilder - Fury (landed/thrown):

71/430 - 84/327 - so, according to this Wilder threw 103 punches MORE and Fury landed ONLY 13 punches more.

jabs: 40/248 - 46/223 - according to this, Fury threw 25 jabs LESS and landed ONLY 6 jabs more.

power punches: 31/182 - 38/104 - according to this, Wilder statistically threw like 6-7 power punches MORE EVERY ROUND than Fury.

What a joke.

I do not ever look at compubox stats. I do not need to. Wilder out threw, out landed, out boxed, did more damage, won more rounds, and he deserved that decision.

Fury landed nearly nothing for the first 6 rounds, then got knocked down twice in the second half.

Anyone who was blinded by the feints, the tongue wagging, and the commentary needs to go back and recognize reality. Fury did virtually zero damage. He land precious little of ANY substance. He did not throw enough to win any rounds.

It is literally as if Fury was scored every round that he was not knocked down.; as if that was the criteria for scoring.

Some people have admitted, on here, that they scored rounds for Fury because he made Wilder miss, completely ignoring the fact that he threw nearly nothing of any note for the entire first half of the fight.

Wilder not only made Fury miss, he intimidated him from throwing. Then when Fury started actually competing, he got knocked on his ass twice.

There might be one clear Fury round in that fight. The rest were shaded to him because he survived them and he was the superior . . .

Hola Alejandro Rochin, que tal estas?

[ironbeard]

Wilder - Fury (landed/thrown):

71/430 - 84/327 - so, according to this Wilder threw 103 punches MORE and Fury landed ONLY 13 punches more.

jabs: 40/248 - 46/223 - according to this, Fury threw 25 jabs LESS and landed ONLY 6 jabs more.

power punches: 31/182 - 38/104 - according to this, Wilder statistically threw like 6-7 power punches MORE EVERY ROUND than Fury.

What a joke.

I do not ever look at compubox stats. I do not need to. Wilder out threw, out landed, out boxed, did more damage, won more rounds, and he deserved that decision.

Fury landed nearly nothing for the first 6 rounds, then got knocked down twice in the second half.

Anyone who was blinded by the feints, the tongue wagging, and the commentary needs to go back and recognize reality. Fury did virtually zero damage. He land precious little of ANY substance. He did not throw enough to win any rounds.

It is literally as if Fury was scored every round that he was not knocked down.; as if that was the criteria for scoring.

Some people have admitted, on here, that they scored rounds for Fury because he made Wilder miss, completely ignoring the fact that he threw nearly nothing of any note for the entire first half of the fight.

Wilder not only made Fury miss, he intimidated him from throwing. Then when Fury started actually competing, he got knocked on his ass twice.

There might be one clear Fury round in that fight. The rest were shaded to him because he survived them and he was the superior . . .

Hola Alejandro Rochin, que tal estas?

I had it wider than Rochin did, scoring without commentary or Fury jockmites about.

8-4 Wilder for me. That’s 116-110 if you need the math done for you. I do admit there were several very close rounds, three of which I gave to Fury.

Just a two round swing would have made the rounds even. I can see where that could have been judged by others that way. Wilder still wins by two points in that scenario.

[dagilechia]

I do not ever look at compubox stats. I do not need to. Wilder out threw, out landed, out boxed, did more damage, won more rounds, and he deserved that decision.

Fury landed nearly nothing for the first 6 rounds, then got knocked down twice in the second half.

Anyone who was blinded by the feints, the tongue wagging, and the commentary needs to go back and recognize reality. Fury did virtually zero damage. He land precious little of ANY substance. He did not throw enough to win any rounds.

It is literally as if Fury was scored every round that he was not knocked down.; as if that was the criteria for scoring.

Some people have admitted, on here, that they scored rounds for Fury because he made Wilder miss, completely ignoring the fact that he threw nearly nothing of any note for the entire first half of the fight.

Wilder not only made Fury miss, he intimidated him from throwing. Then when Fury started actually competing, he got knocked on his ass twice.

There might be one clear Fury round in that fight. The rest were shaded to him because he survived them and he was the superior . . .

Hola Alejandro Rochin, que tal estas?

I had it wider than Rochin did, scoring without commentary or Fury jockmites about.

8-4 Wilder for me. That’s 116-110 if you need the math done for you. I do admit there were several very close rounds, three of which I gave to Fury.

Just a two round swing would have made the rounds even. I can see where that could have been judged by others that way. Wilder still wins by two points in that scenario.

so it means that in your opinion draw was a controversial decision on Fury's favour and that if you scored all the close rounds on Wilder's favour you would score it 119-107 for Wilder?

[ironbeard]

Hola Alejandro Rochin, que tal estas?

I had it wider than Rochin did, scoring without commentary or Fury jockmites about.

8-4 Wilder for me. That’s 116-110 if you need the math done for you. I do admit there were several very close rounds, three of which I gave to Fury.

Just a two round swing would have made the rounds even. I can see where that could have been judged by others that way. Wilder still wins by two points in that scenario.

so it means that in your opinion draw was a controversial decision on Fury's favour and that if you scored all the close rounds on Wilder's favour you would score it 119-107 for Wilder?

Fury dominated zero rounds; as in 0, none, nada, zilch.

[dagilechia]

I had it wider than Rochin did, scoring without commentary or Fury jockmites about.

8-4 Wilder for me. That’s 116-110 if you need the math done for you. I do admit there were several very close rounds, three of which I gave to Fury.

Just a two round swing would have made the rounds even. I can see where that could have been judged by others that way. Wilder still wins by two points in that scenario.

so it means that in your opinion draw was a controversial decision on Fury's favour and that if you scored all the close rounds on Wilder's favour you would score it 119-107 for Wilder?

Fury dominated zero rounds; as in 0, none, nada, zilch.

maybe... but clearly won most of them anyway. it's shocking that someone had it wider than Rochin

[ironbeard]

so it means that in your opinion draw was a controversial decision on Fury's favour and that if you scored all the close rounds on Wilder's favour you would score it 119-107 for Wilder?

Fury dominated zero rounds; as in 0, none, nada, zilch.

maybe... but clearly won most of them anyway. it's shocking that someone had it wider than Rochin

No, what is shocking is how blindly biased (to put it kindly) you are. What is despicable is how many troll threads you are going to start over the next few days.

The decision did not go the way I clearly saw it. That is the way it goes. I am not going to spam this and other sites with totally ludicrous and repetitive self serving horsesh!t.

Both fighters deserve respect. It was a dramatic contest. They can both move on. Maybe they will meet again someday.

[dagilechia]

Fury dominated zero rounds; as in 0, none, nada, zilch.

maybe... but clearly won most of them anyway. it's shocking that someone had it wider than Rochin

No, what is shocking is how blindly biased (to put it kindly) you are. What is despicable is how many troll threads you are going to start over the next few days.

The decision did not go the way I clearly saw it. That is the way it goes. I am not going to spam this and other sites with totally ludicrous and repetitive self serving horsesh!t.

Both fighters deserve respect. It was a dramatic contest. They can both move on. Maybe they will meet again someday.

i have started 0 troll topics and i never start troll topics. you said that 4 rounds were close, 2 were 10-8 rounds, 1 won clearly by Fury, what were the remaning 5 rounds that you believe that Wilder clearly won?

[ironbeard]

maybe... but clearly won most of them anyway. it's shocking that someone had it wider than Rochin

No, what is shocking is how blindly biased (to put it kindly) you are. What is despicable is how many troll threads you are going to start over the next few days.

The decision did not go the way I clearly saw it. That is the way it goes. I am not going to spam this and other sites with totally ludicrous and repetitive self serving horsesh!t.

Both fighters deserve respect. It was a dramatic contest. They can both move on. Maybe they will meet again someday.

i have started 0 troll topics and i never start troll topics. you said that 4 rounds were close, 2 were 10-8 rounds, 1 won clearly by Fury, what were the remaning 5 rounds that you believe that Wilder clearly won?

There were zero dominant rounds beyond the KD rounds. Wilder did more throughout the first half. Fury came on in the second half. If Fury had not been knocked down in those two rounds, it is very conceivable that he could have won them.

Alas, he was on his ass and lost those two rounds 10-8.

You have been trolling all night.

As you were.

[dagilechia]

No, what is shocking is how blindly biased (to put it kindly) you are. What is despicable is how many troll threads you are going to start over the next few days.

The decision did not go the way I clearly saw it. That is the way it goes. I am not going to spam this and other sites with totally ludicrous and repetitive self serving horsesh!t.

Both fighters deserve respect. It was a dramatic contest. They can both move on. Maybe they will meet again someday.

i have started 0 troll topics and i never start troll topics. you said that 4 rounds were close, 2 were 10-8 rounds, 1 won clearly by Fury, what were the remaning 5 rounds that you believe that Wilder clearly won?

There were zero dominant rounds beyond the KD rounds. Wilder did more throughout the first half. Fury came on in the second half. If Fury had not been knocked down in those two rounds, it is very conceivable that he could have won them.

Alas, he was on his ass and lost those two rounds 10-8.

You have been trolling all night.

As you were.

trolling all night? i made my first post just after the final bell.

seems like the only troll there is you (at least that's what i think looking at your scorecard).

[TheGingerBomber]

You don’t know shit if you think Wilder won by even one round.

[ironbeard]

i have started 0 troll topics and i never start troll topics. you said that 4 rounds were close, 2 were 10-8 rounds, 1 won clearly by Fury, what were the remaning 5 rounds that you believe that Wilder clearly won?

There were zero dominant rounds beyond the KD rounds. Wilder did more throughout the first half. Fury came on in the second half. If Fury had not been knocked down in those two rounds, it is very conceivable that he could have won them.

Alas, he was on his ass and lost those two rounds 10-8.

You have been trolling all night.

As you were.

trolling all night? i made my first post just after the final bell.

seems like the only troll there is you (at least that's what i think looking at your scorecard).

Whatever you think is fine. You had a predetermined outcome going in. Fury survived which rationalized your all night whinefest.

For you, a clear bonafide member of the Wilder hater fan club, the young man from Alabama could not win without a knockout, plain and simple as that snozsh on your face.

[dagilechia]

There were zero dominant rounds beyond the KD rounds. Wilder did more throughout the first half. Fury came on in the second half. If Fury had not been knocked down in those two rounds, it is very conceivable that he could have won them.

Alas, he was on his ass and lost those two rounds 10-8.

You have been trolling all night.

As you were.

trolling all night? i made my first post just after the final bell.

seems like the only troll there is you (at least that's what i think looking at your scorecard).

Whatever you think is fine. You had a predetermined outcome going in. Fury survived which rationalized your all night whinefest.

For you, a clear bonafide member of the Wilder hater fan club, the young man from Alabama could not win without a knockout, plain and simple as that snozsh on your face.

what? i am not a Fury fan (at least i wasn't until now) and i have predicted Wilder's win.

[ironbeard]

trolling all night? i made my first post just after the final bell.

seems like the only troll there is you (at least that's what i think looking at your scorecard).

Whatever you think is fine. You had a predetermined outcome going in. Fury survived which rationalized your all night whinefest.

For you, a clear bonafide member of the Wilder hater fan club, the young man from Alabama could not win without a knockout, plain and simple as that snozsh on your face.

what? i am not a Fury fan and i have predicted Wilder's win.

Predictions have nothing to do with haterism. I predicted a Wilder win too, but I have never been a fan, until now.

Wilder got no respect from me before the Ortiz fight. I was rooting for Ortiz.

I had no dog in the fight last night, although the Wilder hate and Fury jockmites were nauseating.

Congrats to both young men. They put it on the line when they did not have to.

[dagilechia]

Whatever you think is fine. You had a predetermined outcome going in. Fury survived which rationalized your all night whinefest.

For you, a clear bonafide member of the Wilder hater fan club, the young man from Alabama could not win without a knockout, plain and simple as that snozsh on your face.

what? i am not a Fury fan and i have predicted Wilder's win.

Predictions have nothing to do with haterism. I predicted a Wilder win too, but I have never been a fan, until now.

Wilder got no respect from me before the Ortiz fight. I was rooting for Ortiz.

I had no dog in the fight last night, although the Wilder hate and Fury jockmites were nauseating.

Congrats to both young men. They put it on the line when they did not have to.

i am not a Wilder ''hater''. i was criticizing Wilder as much as i have criticized Fury, various reasons.

[Thomastearns]

If you see the overall result of the fight as cumulation of 12 small fights added together, each counting as one or 2 points, it's difficult to give it to Wilder.

However, seeing Fury down twice, esp heavily in the last, where the ref could easily have been worse, it's hard to give it to Fury.

I think Wilder shaded it because of those 2 knockdowns, but a draw's OK given the current scoring system.

The UK commentary from John Rawling and Barry Jones were hopelessly partisan as usual. By the end I had the volume almost switched off. Thankfully the studio team were well managed by Paul Dempsey and Steve Bunce kept things exciting as usual.

As for the judging, it's not an exact science, more of an interpretation. When Jimmy Lennon jr was announcing the results I was waiting for the British judge to give it to Fury -but he didn't.

Phil Edwards saw it 113-113.
3 men, 3 different views.

[ironbeard]

what? i am not a Fury fan and i have predicted Wilder's win.

Predictions have nothing to do with haterism. I predicted a Wilder win too, but I have never been a fan, until now.

Wilder got no respect from me before the Ortiz fight. I was rooting for Ortiz.

I had no dog in the fight last night, although the Wilder hate and Fury jockmites were nauseating.

Congrats to both young men. They put it on the line when they did not have to.

i am not a Wilder ''hater''. i was criticizing Wilder as much as i have criticized Fury, various reasons.

Most haters can’t admit it.

[TheRightDecision]

I'm with Lederman and a thousand professional boxers over Wilder Fanboys.
Alejandro Rochin is a criminal.

[dagilechia]

Predictions have nothing to do with haterism. I predicted a Wilder win too, but I have never been a fan, until now.

Wilder got no respect from me before the Ortiz fight. I was rooting for Ortiz.

I had no dog in the fight last night, although the Wilder hate and Fury jockmites were nauseating.

Congrats to both young men. They put it on the line when they did not have to.

i am not a Wilder ''hater''. i was criticizing Wilder as much as i have criticized Fury, various reasons.

Most haters can’t admit it.

i'm a hater of no one, i just like boxing. of course, i got some favourite fighters, but that's it.

[ironbeard]

If you see the overall result of the fight as cumulation of 12 small fights added together, each counting as one or 2 points, it's difficult to give it to Wilder.

However, seeing Fury down twice, esp heavily in the last, where the ref could easily have been worse, it's hard to give it to Fury.

I think Wilder shaded it because of those 2 knockdowns, but a draw's OK given the current scoring system.

The UK commentary from John Rawling and Barry Jones were hopelessly partisan as usual. By the end I had the volume almost switched off. Thankfully the studio team were well managed by Paul Dempsey and Steve Bunce kept things exciting as usual.

As for the judging, it's not an exact science, more of an interpretation. When Jimmy Lennon jr was announcing the results I was waiting for the British judge to give it to Fury -but he didn't.

Phil Edwards saw it 113-113.
3 men, 3 different views.

Nice post!

[tiny_acres]

If you see the overall result of the fight as cumulation of 12 small fights added together, each counting as one or 2 points, it's difficult to give it to Wilder.

However, seeing Fury down twice, esp heavily in the last, where the ref could easily have been worse, it's hard to give it to Fury.

I think Wilder shaded it because of those 2 knockdowns, but a draw's OK given the current scoring system.

The UK commentary from John Rawling and Barry Jones were hopelessly partisan as usual. By the end I had the volume almost switched off. Thankfully the studio team were well managed by Paul Dempsey and Steve Bunce kept things exciting as usual.

As for the judging, it's not an exact science, more of an interpretation. When Jimmy Lennon jr was announcing the results I was waiting for the British judge to give it to Fury -but he didn't.

Phil Edwards saw it 113-113.
3 men, 3 different views.

Very good post

[giacomino]

Thought the compubox numbers probably weren’t far off. Wilder certainly threw more punches. Fury made him look like an amateur, but didn’t land much either. Overall I thought it was a boring fight between a novice with a punch and a spoiler, and other than the knockdown rounds it was very hard to score because neither fighter landed much of note. I scored it a close win for Fury (114-112) but could have gone draw or Wilder by a point, but those who claim Fury “dominated” must believe making someone look bad but not landing much in return is “dominance.” There were very few clear rounds, unless you were looking at the fight as a fan or hater of one fighter. In the end, it made me sure Joshua would beat either man and reenforces why I’d rather watch super flyweights and middleweights than heavyweights

[Enlightened-One]

Wilder - Fury (landed/thrown):

71/430 - 84/327 - so, according to this Wilder threw 103 punches MORE and Fury landed ONLY 13 punches more.

jabs: 40/248 - 46/223 - according to this, Fury threw 25 jabs LESS and landed ONLY 6 jabs more.

power punches: 31/182 - 38/104 - according to this, Wilder statistically threw like 6-7 power punches MORE EVERY ROUND than Fury.

What a joke.

I’ve not seen the round-by-round CompuBox punch stats yet, but I’m guessing that the aggregated total figures are contaminated with Wilder’s desperate attempts to force the stoppage during rounds nine and twelve. So if this really is the case, then these numbers might actually be accurate.

[gilgamesh]

I'm with Lederman and a thousand professional boxers over Wilder Fanboys.
Alejandro Rochin is a criminal.

It's funny how I can be a "fanboy" for Wilder based on one fight when up until now I've loudly and vocally hated on him pretty hard