after last night......

[TheGingerBomber]

I think AJ vs Wilder is a true 50/50 fight, even thought AJ is much better than him.

[Finn]

Joshua's artillery is just better than Wilder's. He has more layers to his game, would put punches together and eventually stop a game Fury. Wilder just threw single shots last night, loading up from the third row and still almost stopped Fury.

I've changed my mind in that I think Fury would last longer vs AJ than I thought he would before last night, He would win a few rounds before being stopped.

I think Joshua might be too slow to get to fury if he fights on the back foot and flicks out the jab, wilder is very quick but struggled to get to fury for most of the fight. AJ beats wilder imo like you said he has more fire power than wilder and more layers to it, those inside combos and uppercuts would be brutal, I don’t think Wilder could take them for long.

[WildWaylon]

I thought Fury was fair and honest in the things he said after the fight, and I respect him for that. The truth is both men had never been in a fight like it, and both men knew they could have been beaten by the other. The crap talk is over, they each respect the other, and they now have to plan for the rematch which has to happen.

[WildWaylon]

I think AJ vs Wilder is a true 50/50 fight, even thought AJ is much better than him.

Wilder has more experience, and when he isn't looking for the KO he can box. He proved this when he won the title against Stiverne by winning every round. The problem is he believes he can lose rounds and KO his opponent later in the fight. At this level you cant think like that and the Fury fight may have taught him to try and win the rounds and go for the KO when he is winning the fight, and not rely so much on his big KO punch. To beat AJ he has to box him first and KO him later which I believe he can do. Wilder needs a good trainer to teach him better tactics.

[Boxerbeetle]

Joshua's artillery is just better than Wilder's. He has more layers to his game, would put punches together and eventually stop a game Fury. Wilder just threw single shots last night, loading up from the third row and still almost stopped Fury.

I've changed my mind in that I think Fury would last longer vs AJ than I thought he would before last night, He would win a few rounds before being stopped.

I agree. I also think McCracken would have Joshua throwing body shots like he did against Povetkin to slow Fury down. I thought Wilder hurt Fury to the body a few times yesterday but still kept headhunting for some reason.

[CaptainSpacerod]

Fascinating stuff. I think AJ would land a lot of hard jabs to Fury’s body early on rather than headhunt like wilder did. Would this slow fury down enough to enable AJ to nail him later on ?

[skanksta]

I'll say the same thing I've said for the last year.

AJ knocks Wilder out early doors.

Fury beats Joshua on points in a close fight.

X2
Although Wilder is better than I thought he was. Much more solid and tough than a spindly streak has any right to be..

[BigDoofus]

Barry Hearn said he couldn't care if Joshua didn't fight Wilder for 10 years. I'm expecting him to stay well clear of Fury too.

[lillywhite14]

who else is thinking the same as me?

Wilder would stop AJ

Fury would 'school' AJ

Not me.

Wilder didn’t impress me last night. Bit of a one trick pony who is vulnerable himself. If Tyson could bang he would have sealed the deal before round 8/9. I can’t see how anyone comes to the conclusion that Wilder definitely beats Joshua based on last night, unless of course you thought that before the fight maybe?

Dramatic doesn’t mean both fighters were brilliant. Tyson was brilliant last night, Wilder got lucky with the decision.

Joshua stops both imo, Wilder in devastating fashion before round 4 begins

[Datsue]

Joshua's artillery is just better than Wilder's. He has more layers to his game, would put punches together and eventually stop a game Fury. Wilder just threw single shots last night, loading up from the third row and still almost stopped Fury.

I've changed my mind in that I think Fury would last longer vs AJ than I thought he would before last night, He would win a few rounds before being stopped.

I agree. I also think McCracken would have Joshua throwing body shots like he did against Povetkin to slow Fury down. I thought Wilder hurt Fury to the body a few times yesterday but still kept headhunting for some reason.

[keithmoonhangover]

Barry Hearn said he couldn't care if Joshua didn't fight Wilder for 10 years. I'm expecting him to stay well clear of Fury too.

It's just talk mate. AJ is the boss, make no mistake.

[gilgamesh]

I'm thinking Hearn probably milks the title a little longer, and books A.J. against the other guys in the division. Ortiz, Miller...dudes like that before he goes for either Wilder or Fury.

Hopefully before the end of next year we'll be seeing A.J. tangle with one or both of these guys though. Hell ideally it'll be next, but this is Boxing so I won't hold my breath on that one.

[BigDoofus]

Barry Hearn said he couldn't care if Joshua didn't fight Wilder for 10 years. I'm expecting him to stay well clear of Fury too.

It's just talk mate. AJ is the boss, make no mistake.

I agree. The Wilder fight was his choice. He chose not to fight him.

[KiwiRider]

After last night I'm doing ok.
Had a couple of glasses of water before bed. One aspirin with breakfast
Haven't visited the throne room yet, but the curry wasn't that hot so I expect only minor ring-sting.

[jamamb]

I think AJ vs Wilder is a true 50/50 fight, even thought AJ is much better than him.

Wilder has more experience, and when he isn't looking for the KO he can box. He proved this when he won the title against Stiverne by winning every round. The problem is he believes he can lose rounds and KO his opponent later in the fight. At this level you cant think like that and the Fury fight may have taught him to try and win the rounds and go for the KO when he is winning the fight, and not rely so much on his big KO punch. To beat AJ he has to box him first and KO him later which I believe he can do. Wilder needs a good trainer to teach him better tactics.

tbf though stiverne, short and very plodding, is also made to be outboxed by a much longer and fairly quick guy. im not sure how that really translates to wilder outboxing a guy as long as him and significantly bigger framed with a top notch long right hand himself

watch stiverne vs 40 year old ray austin who is similar in height to wilder, stiverne was getting badly outboxed in that one too , i think he may just struggle with tall guys who will jab and fight him at range

note that by far stivernes biggest win was vs a guy about his height who came right at him at close range

[keithmoonhangover]

Barry Hearn said he couldn't care if Joshua didn't fight Wilder for 10 years. I'm expecting him to stay well clear of Fury too.

It's just talk mate. AJ is the boss, make no mistake.

I agree. The Wilder fight was his choice. He chose not to fight him.

Stop talking bollocks man.

[dr_devious]

I'd also like to see Whyte v Wilder, I think Dillian has the chin and artillery for the job

[samwbr]

Furys schools aj

Wilder i dont know ....if wilder had hit aj w that huge hook he put fury down with no way is aj getting up.

How do we know this? Wilder was caught plenty but Furys got nowhere near the power of Joshua.

[banjo]

Wilder can hit but his boxing ability is shocking, AJ would outbox him easily, Fury on the other hand is very tricky and would very likely befuddle and frustrate AJ.

[REEVE]

Furys schools aj

Wilder i dont know ....if wilder had hit aj w that huge hook he put fury down with no way is aj getting up.

How do we know this? Wilder was caught plenty but Furys got nowhere near the power of Joshua.

We dont mate im just assuming

[rd350lc]

Joshua's artillery is just better than Wilder's. He has more layers to his game, would put punches together and eventually stop a game Fury. Wilder just threw single shots last night, loading up from the third row and still almost stopped Fury.

I've changed my mind in that I think Fury would last longer vs AJ than I thought he would before last night, He would win a few rounds before being stopped.

I agree. I also think McCracken would have Joshua throwing body shots like he did against Povetkin to slow Fury down. I thought Wilder hurt Fury to the body a few times yesterday but still kept headhunting for some reason.

I don't know what round it was but wilder stopped him in his tracks with a bodyshot , it's amazing how many fighters don't see the effects of a punch and capitalise .

[ewenhay]

It all depends how much Fury wants it. It's far from guaranteed that he'll wake up after Xmas and want to carry on.

If he stays in the gym he's the best heavyweight out there.

[WildWaylon]

When Tyson Fury fought big John McDermott the first time, he clearly lost, but he accepted the win given to him by the ref. There was trouble over it and from that point on there has had to be be three judges for English title fights. Fury claims he has never been beaten but in his heart he knows he has. Boxing scores are not an exact science and refs often do help fighters out. Having now watched the 12th round KD a few times, its amazing to me why the ref let the fight continue. Furys head hit the canvas with quite a thud.

[Ruthless-RKO]

When Tyson Fury fought big John McDermott the first time, he clearly lost, but he accepted the win given to him by the ref. There was trouble over it and from that point on there has had to be be three judges for English title fights. Fury claims he has never been beaten but in his heart he knows he has. Boxing scores are not an exact science and refs often do help fighters out. Having now watched the 12th round KD a few times, its amazing to me why the ref let the fight continue. Furys head hit the canvas with quite a thud.

Excellent refereeing

[mickey1975]

People still don’t realise! Wlad “stared “ at him for 12, Wilder was gunshy! Ffs, don’t you think the giant master boxer stood in front had something to do with it? AJ will do this and that, yes he will, against Whyte.