is a wilder vs fury rematch pretty much certain?

[ironbeard]

Everyone already knows Wilder lost that fight. Fury isn't even at his best. Wilder would never take that risk a second time.

That’s funny. Last I checked, Fury was gifted a draw.

Draw was reasonable.

I agree. Too many close rounds. But I will defend my card, as always.

[G.McClellan]

If they do, Fury needs to insist on a neutral venue.

He'll never get the decision in America.

Seems a little be a little harsh, since he would have gotten this decision if he hadn’t been knocked down in the final round

Exactly

[jamamb]

tbh neither guy themself seemed super eager for a rematch

aj vs fury mega uk fight!! strike while its hot tys

[tiny_acres]

If they do, Fury needs to insist on a neutral venue.

He'll never get the decision in America.

Seems a little be a little harsh, since he would have gotten this decision if he hadn’t been knocked down in the final round

Excellent post
I don't think people are being objective at all. If Fury would not of been knocked down he would of won on 2 scorecards.
How is that corruption?
Wilder did what needed to get done and saved his belt. Corruption had nothing to do with it

[jamamb]

the draw was feasible but yet another case of 'best case scenario' judging for wilder. he is getting the benefit of the doubt over and over on the cards

[Bullza]

“Wilder won’t take the risk again?” That’s rich. Fury is VERY unlikely to risk getting knocked clean out again any time soon.

Everyone already knows Wilder lost that fight. Fury isn't even at his best. Wilder would never take that risk a second time.

That’s funny. Last I checked, Fury was gifted a draw.

That was no gift, that was an unfortunate result. Wilders face was enough to tell everybody that he knew he lost. Even one of his own people went straight up to Fury and told him he won.

That's corruption for you though.

[ironbeard]

Everyone already knows Wilder lost that fight. Fury isn't even at his best. Wilder would never take that risk a second time.

That’s funny. Last I checked, Fury was gifted a draw.

That was no gift, that was an unfortunate result. Wilders face was enough to tell everybody that he knew he lost. Even one of his own people went straight up to Fury and told him he won.

That's corruption for you though.

You obviously have very little experience with actual corruption.

[ironbeard]

Unlikely, Wilder won't take the risk again. He was lucky that there were corrupt judges on his side this time but people will be on to it now.

“Wilder won’t take the risk again?” That’s rich. Fury is VERY unlikely to risk getting knocked clean out again any time soon.

Everyone already knows Wilder lost that fight. Fury isn't even at his best. Wilder would never take that risk a second time.

What risk? Fury poses far less risk than AJ, Ortiz, or even Povetkin.

[jamamb]

shelly says wlder wants aj next not fury

fury may want aj too

rght after the fght both went almost straight to brngng up aj

ya...hes on there minds the hw cash king, and a rematch will still be there for them even if both lose to aj

[ewenhay]

“Wilder won’t take the risk again?” That’s rich. Fury is VERY unlikely to risk getting knocked clean out again any time soon.

Everyone already knows Wilder lost that fight. Fury isn't even at his best. Wilder would never take that risk a second time.

What risk? Fury poses far less risk than AJ, Ortiz, or even Povetkin.

Behave. Ortiz and Povetkin are finished

[jamamb]

furys not a doing damage risk, but defo a risk to outpoint you or put a flaw on your record. wilder had his first blemish vs fury ,wlad lost for first time in years to fury, so weve seen that fury can cut it at high level and set guys back. wilder now because of fury is no longer the clear guy aj must fight. because of fury wlad was no longer champ. clearly you risk some of your career positioning if you fight fury.

i have little doubt fury would pretty comfortably outpoint guys like ortiz and pov too

[ironbeard]

furys not a doing damage risk, but defo a risk to outpoint you or put a flaw on your record. wilder had his first blemish vs fury ,wlad lost for first time in years to fury, so weve seen that fury can cut it at high level. wilder now because of fury is no longer the clear guy aj must fight.

i have little doubt fury would pretty comfortably outpoint guys like ortiz and pov too

In the UK I have little doubt that Fury gets the decision v anyone he fights (except AJ). He would have to get floored in four or five separate rounds and that might not be enough to beat him if he gets to the cards.

[jamamb]

ya, or maybe over a 12 round fight he simply wins enough rounds not to lose even with a pair of knockdowns

fury gave wilder a blemish
fury dethroned wlad

clearly furys a risk and defo more so then old plodding ort or stubby pov. 6 foot 8 with good feet, actual akward skill , and plenty of heart and recovery. deontay and wlad couldnt even feign outrage by the results. this was after not facing a live opponent in 3 years too.

[ironbeard]

ya, or maybe over a 12 round fight he simply wins enough rounds not to lose even with a pair of knockdowns

fury gave wilder a blemish
fury dethroned wlad

clearly furys a risk and defo more so then old plodding ort or stubby pov. 6 foot 8 with good feet, actual akward skill , and plenty of heart and recovery. deontay and wlad couldnt even feign outrage by the results.

Ortiz came far closer to defeating (and killing) Wilder than Fury did.

Fury is the one who will not be taking the risk of a further blemish on HIS record, very possibly by brutal stoppage v Wilder.

[jamamb]

ortiz lost, fury didnt. wilder has a blemish on his record from fury, not ortiz. we can no longer say deontay has won all his fights or is the clear man aj must fight, and thats because of fury not ortiz. the highly emotional deontay couldnt even work up an outrage at the decision

fighters pose risk in different ways, fury is much more risky then ortiz and povetkin when it comes to actually being able to score a win over him

[ewenhay]

ya, or maybe over a 12 round fight he simply wins enough rounds not to lose even with a pair of knockdowns

fury gave wilder a blemish
fury dethroned wlad

clearly furys a risk and defo more so then old plodding ort or stubby pov. 6 foot 8 with good feet, actual akward skill , and plenty of heart and recovery. deontay and wlad couldnt even feign outrage by the results.

Ortiz came far closer to defeating (and killing) Wilder than Fury did.

Fury is the one who will not be taking the risk of a further blemish on HIS record, very possibly by brutal stoppage v Wilder.

That's just nonsense now. Why would Fury avoid Wilder any more that Wilder would avoid Fury?

You're just attention seeking now

[ironbeard]

ortiz lost, fury didnt. wilder has a blemish on his record from fury, not ortiz. we can no longer say deontay has won all his fights or is the clear man aj must fight, and thats because of fury.

fighters pose risk in different ways, fury is much more risky then ortiz and povetkin when it comes to actually scoring a win over him

I disagree. The Ortiz fight is a clear testament to the very high risk rematching him would pose, as is Povetkin’s performance v AJ.

Fury got a draw in a match that had 8 to 10 rounds that could have been scored either way.

The risk is clearly, without doubt, higher for Fury.

[ironbeard]

ya, or maybe over a 12 round fight he simply wins enough rounds not to lose even with a pair of knockdowns

fury gave wilder a blemish
fury dethroned wlad

clearly furys a risk and defo more so then old plodding ort or stubby pov. 6 foot 8 with good feet, actual akward skill , and plenty of heart and recovery. deontay and wlad couldnt even feign outrage by the results.

Ortiz came far closer to defeating (and killing) Wilder than Fury did.

Fury is the one who will not be taking the risk of a further blemish on HIS record, very possibly by brutal stoppage v Wilder.

That's just nonsense now. Why would Fury avoid Wilder any more that Wilder would avoid Fury?

You're just attention seeking now

Simple; Fury was nearly knocked unconscious. Wilder was not.

[jamamb]

you said ort and pov are riskier fights then fury. simply not true at all. we already saw wilder fight both ort and fury and as clearly said hes now got a blemish because of fury and not ort. wilder is no longer the one guy aj needs to fight and thats because of fury. wilder managed to beat ort but fighting in la couldnt beat a fury whod faced no one in 3 years.

lol ya knocked down yet never lost. im sure you were singing all for kovalev after the first fight when he floored ward but lost too right

[ironbeard]

you said ort and pov are riskier fights then fury. simply not true at all. we already saw wilder fight both ort and fury and as clearly said hes now got a blemish because of fury and not ort. wilder is no longer the one guy aj needs to fight and thats because of fury. wilder managed to beat ort but fighting in la couldnt beat a fury whod faced no one in 3 years.

lol ya knocked down yet never lost. im sure you were singing all for kovalev after the first fight when he floored ward but lost too right

Like I said, we disagree.

A draw v Fury does not prove that Fury is the bigger risk. Ortiz was arguably within one punch of finishing Wilder. If Povetkin did to Wilder what he managed to do to AJ before the stoppage, he would likely stop the American.

That is a far bigger risk than dancing around the ring with Fury. Wilder would likely finish the job in the rematch, and Fury is acutely aware of that.

[jamamb]

ortiz didnt finish wilder and he lost. fury didnt lose. for someone who likes to talk about appreciating skilled fighters, you should realize there are different routes to results and that risk is posed in different ways. fury after 3 years of nobody came to the us as underdog and gave wilder a blemish and set him back in a way ortiz never did. not even wilder could get worked up about the decision

and the kd stuff is obvious baloney. you know full well someone can still win if there dropped and you i believe went on over and over about ward beating kov even when he got floored. lol but now knockdowns mean everything

[ironbeard]

I had Ward by a point in Kovalev I, btw. If Krusher would have dropped Ward a second time, he would have won.

[jamamb]

ya, so even with as many kds as fury-wilder you wouldnt have had the guy scoring them winning

but omg fury can get dropped 20 times and just needs to last to get a decision

[ironbeard]

ortiz didnt finish wilder and he lost. fury didnt lose. for someone who likes to talk about appreciating skilled fighters, you should realize there are different routes to results and that risk is posed in different ways. fury after 3 years of nobody came to the us as underdog and gave wilder a blemish and set him back in a way ortiz never did. not even wilder could get worked up about the decision

and the kd stuff is obvious baloney. you know full well someone can still win if there dropped and you i believe went on over and over about ward beating kov even when he got floored. lol but now knockdowns mean everything

I do appreciate good boxing, and Wilder not only out slugged but he out boxed Fury, imo. But it WAS scored a draw.

Wilder is a far greater risk to Fury than Fury is to Wilder, by great distance.

[ironbeard]

ya, so even with as many kds as fury-wilder you wouldnt have had the guy scoring them winning

but omg fury can get dropped 20 times and just needs to last to get a decision

In the UK he would need to be dropped 4 to 5 times, is what I actually said.

You are getting excited.