HEARN'S QUIET

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Post by jamamb »

having a clear winner wouldve put a lot more pressure on to make aj vs the winner

before it was all this stuff about aj needing to fight wilder but now wilders lost his status as that guy and fury didnt fully claim it either. imagine if wilder had sparked fury, claimed lineal, and beaten one of the big names in the division. then aj wouldve really been in a corner with ppl calling for that. wilder would absolutely have had a huge mandate that aj needed to fight him to make the hw king. but it didnt happen.

the draw also means aj could potentitally fight either next year, whereas fury winning wouldve triggered a rematch clause i think

neither wilder or fury seemed that excited about a rematch and wilders already saying he wants aj next i think, according to finkel
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Post by lillywhite14 »

The draw wasnt really great or terrible for anyone involved.

The amusing thing I’ve started to notice is the myth that Fury is now mega popular and the number 1. Does anyone not think Wilder could beat him in a rematch? He was 0.3 seconds from beating him Saturday night in the final round. He didn’t drop him once, he dropped him twice. He also seemed to be half alright taking anything Fury landed on him.

I thought Wilder was poor and was I impressed and delighted with Fury. Let’s not get anything mixed up though, Wilder can absolutely win a rematch between the two. There’s room for improvement imo.

Joshua? Don’t be surprised if he Eddie makes the Wilder fight for April, then freezes Fury out just for spite. After Joshua splatters Wilder, you’ll be hearing things like ‘Fury Needs to beat Wilder first’ whilst lining up Miller, Whyte and Pulev. :-?
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I don’t think Hearn or Joshua will care one way or the other about Saturday’s result. Neither Fury nor Wilder looked particularly threatening (in fact, personally I think their stock has lowered somewhat rather than increased - it didn’t come across as a fight between 2 elite guys, just 2 above average heavies), and most casuals won’t even have seen it.
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If I had repeatedly said that Wilder-Fury wouldn't happen I would feel very silly.
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coneye wrote: 03 Dec 2018, 08:59
danconnollyeire wrote: 03 Dec 2018, 08:34
coneye wrote: 03 Dec 2018, 06:57 Eddie Hearn is generaly in front of the IFL or any other camera at any chance , for whatever reason , seems to be quiet last couple of days , Sort of threw a spanner in the works this fight , now he's got 2 fighters he's got to dodge . LOL
Calm down it's only been a day and ifl tv team are in LA I bet there's something around Wednesday from him
IFL have other interviewers , , and theres other shows he usually gets on , anyway i would think he's too busy drafting excuses , Although Shelley did say they will probably make Edied another offer , so theres his way out
Fvcking hell chill out the fight happened at 5am Sunday morning. He stayed up to watch. Prob fvcked like the rest of us and spending Sunday with his family. Again, chill
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Deluded followers that's why
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Post by coneye »

danconnollyeire wrote: 03 Dec 2018, 19:51
coneye wrote: 03 Dec 2018, 08:59
danconnollyeire wrote: 03 Dec 2018, 08:34

Calm down it's only been a day and ifl tv team are in LA I bet there's something around Wednesday from him
IFL have other interviewers , , and theres other shows he usually gets on , anyway i would think he's too busy drafting excuses , Although Shelley did say they will probably make Edied another offer , so theres his way out
Fvcking hell chill out the fight happened at 5am Sunday morning. He stayed up to watch. Prob fvcked like the rest of us and spending Sunday with his family. Again, chill
Sorry Barry , I'll take an asprin and go to bed , did'nt mean to upset you , but it is 4 days now and nothing said , he usually has some camera or interviewer, around daily to tell us what color jocks he's wearing , how many e mails Shirley has'nt answered , and how Wilder can't draw flys . So i was assuming he would be straight on this one , if not with Kugan someone else who dances to his tunes ,
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lol hes already commented on the fight and future aj fights, look harder
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We all expected the winner to take centre stage, but it's now Joshua who's back in the driving seat. Fury and Joshua have beaten Klitschko, and most people feel that Fury beat Wilder. So that casts doubt on whether or not Wilder would've joined their club, leaving him in 3rd place for the time being. Before this fight he had a claim for 1st.

From the previous threeway, it's now very clearly Joshua > Fury > Wilder until proven otherwise. Wilder still has a coveted belt, but his price has tanked. Fury's also unable to demand 50:50 versus AJ, since he didn't win and has no belt. As an added bonus for Joshua, he now knows that Fury isn't to be taken lightly, and sees that he can knock Wilder out unless he's careless.

I think Joshua needs to act fast, though, else he might be at risk of too much mileage. He's bang in his prime.
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Tyson opened GMB with a live interview with Piers for half an hour yesterday. They didn’t even do a news report! And they had Tony Blair on. He’s finally crossed over.
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ewenhay wrote: 03 Dec 2018, 15:11 I must be the only person that's pleased Hearn is being quiet.

You normally can't get away from his noise.
:lol: :lol: :lol:
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mickey1975 wrote: 04 Dec 2018, 01:13 Tyson opened GMB with a live interview with Piers for half an hour yesterday.

Half an hour wasted talking to that gobshite, surely Fury had something better to do.
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banjo wrote: 04 Dec 2018, 10:46
mickey1975 wrote: 04 Dec 2018, 01:13 Tyson opened GMB with a live interview with Piers for half an hour yesterday.

Half an hour wasted talking to that gobshite, surely Fury had something better to do.
Ran all this morning on the ticker that Wilder welcomes the rematch. Piers is a huge fan. So is Susana Reid!
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Btw even Eddie picked the reason over the bias to name Fury a winner. Now imagine, how shameful it is to score for Wilder.
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coneye wrote: 03 Dec 2018, 23:00
danconnollyeire wrote: 03 Dec 2018, 19:51
coneye wrote: 03 Dec 2018, 08:59

IFL have other interviewers , , and theres other shows he usually gets on , anyway i would think he's too busy drafting excuses , Although Shelley did say they will probably make Edied another offer , so theres his way out
Fvcking hell chill out the fight happened at 5am Sunday morning. He stayed up to watch. Prob fvcked like the rest of us and spending Sunday with his family. Again, chill
Sorry Barry , I'll take an asprin and go to bed , did'nt mean to upset you , but it is 4 days now and nothing said , he usually has some camera or interviewer, around daily to tell us what color jocks he's wearing , how many e mails Shirley has'nt answered , and how Wilder can't draw flys . So i was assuming he would be straight on this one , if not with Kugan someone else who dances to his tunes ,
The fight was Sunday. Today is Tuesday
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lol and hes already talked anyway, some people just so badly want to think its dire straights for hearn/aj now
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jamamb wrote: 04 Dec 2018, 13:56 lol and hes already talked anyway, some people just so badly want to think its dire straights for hearn/aj now
I wonder how the meeting in Los Angelas went?
I'm curious if any negotiations took place
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seeing reports that this did around 300k ppv in the us, wonder what hearn will have to say about that

its a solid number, though a few guys here were telling me wilders was going to do around 1m on us ppv
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jamamb wrote: 05 Dec 2018, 05:44 seeing reports that this did around 300k ppv in the us, wonder what hearn will have to say about that

its a solid number, though a few guys here were telling me wilders was going to do around 1m on us ppv
Do you know the UK number?
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jamamb wrote: 05 Dec 2018, 05:44 seeing reports that this did around 300k ppv in the us, wonder what hearn will have to say about that

its a solid number, though a few guys here were telling me wilders was going to do around 1m on us ppv
Thats pretty solid when you consider that it was £55 to buy in the US. Need to do 825k £20 PPV buys here to match that.
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Post by Ruthless-RKO »

keithmoonhangover wrote: 05 Dec 2018, 09:01
jamamb wrote: 05 Dec 2018, 05:44 seeing reports that this did around 300k ppv in the us, wonder what hearn will have to say about that

its a solid number, though a few guys here were telling me wilders was going to do around 1m on us ppv
Do you know the UK number?
They never get released in UK. officially.
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keithmoonhangover wrote: 05 Dec 2018, 09:01
jamamb wrote: 05 Dec 2018, 05:44 seeing reports that this did around 300k ppv in the us, wonder what hearn will have to say about that

its a solid number, though a few guys here were telling me wilders was going to do around 1m on us ppv
Do you know the UK number?
1.9m
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Post by nitro5912 »

mickey1975 wrote: 05 Dec 2018, 11:14
keithmoonhangover wrote: 05 Dec 2018, 09:01
jamamb wrote: 05 Dec 2018, 05:44 seeing reports that this did around 300k ppv in the us, wonder what hearn will have to say about that

its a solid number, though a few guys here were telling me wilders was going to do around 1m on us ppv
Do you know the UK number?
1.9m
Where's that number from?

That would be a record for UK ppv I believe
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mickey1975 wrote: 05 Dec 2018, 11:14
keithmoonhangover wrote: 05 Dec 2018, 09:01
jamamb wrote: 05 Dec 2018, 05:44 seeing reports that this did around 300k ppv in the us, wonder what hearn will have to say about that

its a solid number, though a few guys here were telling me wilders was going to do around 1m on us ppv
Do you know the UK number?
1.9m
It's not 1.9 million he's pulling ya leg. I'm hearing from allegedly its AJ vs Usyk next for April 13th. Fury might be at the Man Utd vs Arsenal game tonight.
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Boxerbeetle wrote: 03 Dec 2018, 16:04 I don’t think Hearn or Joshua will care one way or the other about Saturday’s result. Neither Fury nor Wilder looked particularly threatening (in fact, personally I think their stock has lowered somewhat rather than increased - it didn’t come across as a fight between 2 elite guys, just 2 above average heavies), and most casuals won’t even have seen it.
I think Wilder's stock has fallen significantly. He showed he has no defence and Fury was hitting fairly cleanly but Fury wouldn't be the most powerful puncher. I now think that Wilder is avoiding AJ because he knows he has his number and AJ could very well have Wilder in trouble with those shots Fury got through.

Fury showed he still has it despite the lay off, he looked decent. He is the harder fight for AJ.
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