Fury’s amateurish showboating cost him the title

[Luckybattles]

His hercky jerky feints and head movements had wlider baffles but his amateur showboating marked by dropping his hands and hanging his head directly in front of Wilder cost him the title. I have no idea why his corner allowed this and didn’t stop it. He lost the opportunity based on pure stupidity.

[gilgamesh]

I don't know if I'd go so far as to say it "costs him the title", but it damn sure didn't help.

If all else is equal in a round, and one guy is clowning around and one guy isn't. I'm giving it to the guy that's taking the fight serious, and presenting himself as a Professional.

[Ilya Muromets]

I don't know if I'd go so far as to say it "costs him the title", but it damn sure didn't help.

If all else is equal in a round, and one guy is clowning around and one guy isn't. I'm giving it to the guy that's taking the fight serious, and presenting himself as a Professional.

I didn't like the clowning either - and check out some YouTube videos of clowning fighters that got KO'd - but then Fury breaks all the rules - but if you want to talk about professional, look at their ring entrances. Fury was a total pro; Wilder a total a. h.

[gilgamesh]

I don't know if I'd go so far as to say it "costs him the title", but it damn sure didn't help.

If all else is equal in a round, and one guy is clowning around and one guy isn't. I'm giving it to the guy that's taking the fight serious, and presenting himself as a Professional.

I didn't like the clowning either - and check out some YouTube videos of clowning fighters that got KO'd - but then Fury breaks all the rules - but if you want to talk about professional, look at their ring entrances. Fury was a total pro; Wilder a total a. h.

I didn't have a problem with either ring entrance. I'm not crazy about guys getting rapped to the ring, but that's just because I don't like rap. If it's what psyches a guy up, and makes him want to fight whatever.

[Perseus]

If you think taunting your opponent in the ring does not reflect negatively on scorecards I suggest going on youtube and viewing some Emanuel Augustus fights and how judges routinely treated him.

[lazboy]

He was in Wilders head, plus putting on a show and maybe having a breather with his arms down. All fine if you don’t take life to serious.

[gilgamesh]

He was in Wilders head, plus putting on a show and maybe having a breather with his arms down. All fine if you don’t take life to serious.

I'm the king of not taking life too serious, but I take Professional Fighting serious, and I expect fighters to.

[SenorPipino]

Maybe Fury only landing 84 punches, 2 less than he landed in the Klitschko fight, had something to do with not getting the decision.

He was no ball of fire out there.

His antics and defensive movements may grab your attention, but do they score?

Wilder didn't land much either. But I'll take his bombs as much more meaningful any day over the kind of sleight of hand crap that Fury pulls in the ring.

[jamamb]

If you think taunting your opponent in the ring does not reflect negatively on scorecards I suggest going on youtube and viewing some Emanuel Augustus fights and how judges routinely treated him.

he was almost always b side though, not sure the judges werent against him either way

[lazboy]

Ffs so defence and control of distance mean nothing. May as well have fighters blindfolded by your logic senior.

[jamamb]

wilder had bombs in 2 rounds, no doubt they were the biggest moments, but we judge rbr

[gilgamesh]

Ffs so defence and control of distance mean nothing. May as well have fighters blindfolded for your logic senior.

Clean Punching, Effective Aggression, Ring Generalship and Defense...WITH A STRONG EMPHASIS ON CLEAN, EFFECTIVE PUNCHING.

That is the scoring criteria for a bout.

Very little clean, effective punching from Fury. Especially early.

[lazboy]

Absolutely not point getting into this with you.

[gilgamesh]

Absolutely not point getting into this with you.

Because I'm right. Everything I say and do is right

[lazboy]

Absolutely not point getting into this with you.

Because I'm right. Everything I say and do is right

Lmao! That was funny.

[ironbeard]

I think that it can go both ways. I don’t really care if someone showboats. It does not affect my scoring. Ali showboated and he is still one of my all time favorites, but I never gave him any points for it.

I do think that over the top positive body language may have influenced a bunch of people watching the fight. Raising your hands after every round as if you won it based on the fact that you did not get KTFO certainly can have impact.

It is sales 101.

[Lackeos]

Given that the judges didn't render an honest verdict, I don't think you can claim that any actions he took could have affected the outcome.

[ClivePatrickLyons]

I think that it can go both ways. I don’t really care if someone showboats. It does not affect my scoring. Ali showboated and he is still one of my all time favorites, but I never gave him any points for it.

I do think that over the top positive body language may have influenced a bunch of people watching the fight. Raising your hands after every round as if you won it based on the fact that you did not get KTFO certainly can have impact.

It is sales 101.

But Ali showed-boated in between landing jabs and left and right lightning fast combo's and lead right and putting a shoe shine on his opponent you could barley see then throw in the Ali shuffle amongst him dancing like Fred Astaire Tyson Fury great defence But he's No Ali in the Offence part of the game and that's the biggest difference But Fury got a Granite Chin Like Ali

[Mexi-Box]

Amateurish scoring cost him the title. Everyone knew Fury won. Hell, even that meathead Joe Rogan was saying that Fury was clearly outboxing Wilder. Joe Rogan knows nothing about boxing, but he somehow gets it.

This was a disgusting robbery. I can sometimes see draws, but Wilder deserved 3 rounds at most.

Wilder landed nothing. He looked worse than Klitschko, minus the 2 knockdowns. Hell, even with the knockdowns, Fury was still winning those rounds. Fury gets back up from almost getting stopped and STILL wins the rest of the round.

[caldo2025]

You guys are nuts. The clowning is in the game plan for Fury and it worked perfectly. It frustrated Wilder into headhunting and loading up on single right hands that Fury masterfully bobbed and weaved from albeit the 2 shots that ended up getting in cost him the win.

I watched the fight with 3 non boxing fans and by the 7th round, these guys loved Fury and his act. The guys nuts. Absolutely cuckoo but he’s entertaining as they come. I still can’t believe that he got up in the 12th. He appeared to be out cold and just snapped up and fought on like it never even happened. I’m now a fan and will never criticize Fury for heart or skill again. He proved me wrong.

[caldo2025]

You guys are nuts. The clowning is in the game plan for Fury and it worked perfectly. It frustrated Wilder into headhunting and loading up on single right hands that Fury masterfully bobbed and weaved from albeit the 2 shots that ended up getting in cost him the win.

I watched the fight with 3 non boxing fans and by the 7th round, these guys loved Fury and his act. The guys nuts. Absolutely cuckoo but he’s entertaining as they come. I still can’t believe that he got up in the 12th. He appeared to be out cold and just snapped up and fought on like it never even happened. I’m now a fan and will never criticize Fury for heart or skill again. He proved me wrong.

[ironbeard]

Given that the judges didn't render an honest verdict, I don't think you can claim that any actions he took could have affected the outcome.

The 24 carrot Lackeos Standard of “an honest verdict;” his opinion.

[ironbeard]

You guys are nuts. The clowning is in the game plan for Fury and it worked perfectly. It frustrated Wilder into headhunting and loading up on single right hands that Fury masterfully bobbed and weaved from albeit the 2 shots that ended up getting in cost him the win.

I watched the fight with 3 non boxing fans and by the 7th round, these guys loved Fury and his act. The guys nuts. Absolutely cuckoo but he’s entertaining as they come. I still can’t believe that he got up in the 12th. He appeared to be out cold and just snapped up and fought on like it never even happened. I’m now a fan and will never criticize Fury for heart or skill again. He proved me wrong.

It does not happen often, but I completely agree with Caldoh here.

Fury did a great job of lobbying the judges, and the casuals, securing the draw.

I am a big fan of both boxers now. I was a fan of neither going in.

[Heretic]

I don't know if I'd go so far as to say it "costs him the title", but it damn sure didn't help.

If all else is equal in a round, and one guy is clowning around and one guy isn't. I'm giving it to the guy that's taking the fight serious, and presenting himself as a Professional.

Clean Punching, Effective Aggression, Ring Generalship and Defense...WITH A STRONG EMPHASIS ON CLEAN, EFFECTIVE PUNCHING.

That is the scoring criteria for a bout.

Bit of a contradiction here perhaps

[gilgamesh]

Not in the slightest